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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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Will we see Medical Examiner Shiping Bao and his autopsy report before the fatlady sings???
1 posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: All
Live threads are a venerable tradition on FR. We enjoy sharing our thoughts, opinions and knowledge related to events as they unfold. The live threads can also be useful to those who cannot see the event itself, but look to the thread for updates on what is happening.

Though we may be “like minded” we are still individuals with unique insights and perceptions. Mutual respect should be shown in the way we react to each other.

A certain amount of “rough and tumble” goes with the territory. But, there needs to be a limit, especially on the live threads.. After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?

2 posted on 07/05/2013 4:57:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Has the defense been barred from asserting Trayvon is alive?


3 posted on 07/05/2013 4:57:47 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Michael Wiener aka Michael Savage has once again proved he is to be laughed at and not listened to by his pronouncement that Zimmerman is guilty.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 4:59:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the ping. I think the judge said that start time is 8:30 AM today.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 4:59:27 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: don-o

“After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?”

That would be really retarded...Sir!


6 posted on 07/05/2013 4:59:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Don’t make me start making a list! LOL


7 posted on 07/05/2013 5:02:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip
News video http://www.clickorlando.com/news/state-expected-to-rest-case-against-george-zimmerman/-/1637132/20849458/-/yv8ytez/-/index.html
8 posted on 07/05/2013 5:05:59 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: anyone; All; don-o; hoosiermama; AllAmericanGirl44; ArmstedFragg; Chewbarkah; Cboldt; kristinn; ...

Four Live Stream Links:

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

http://livewire.wesh.com/

http://www.clickorlando.com/

Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:

WFTV http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo … index.html

Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc … on-martin/

WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid … index.html

cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf … artin.html

MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 … von-martin

CNN http://edition.cnn.com/US/

TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv


9 posted on 07/05/2013 5:06:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: don-o

“After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?”

I pretty much draw the line on self-restraint when my head is getting beat into a concrete sidewalk..............then all bets are off.


10 posted on 07/05/2013 5:06:31 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Uncle Chip
Thanks again for the daily thread.

/johnny

11 posted on 07/05/2013 5:06:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MrEdd

At this point, they could claim that the state hasn’t quite proven that he’s dead (no medical examiner testimony), or that George fired the gun (no prints on the trigger).


12 posted on 07/05/2013 5:06:37 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: don-o
But, there needs to be a limit, especially on the live threads.. After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?

Are the limits you speak of limits on truth telling? Do your limits mean that we must acknowledge that Saint Trayvon told Miss Slim Jeans that there was a "rather confused looking man who appears to be of European origin following me"? Or must we acknowledge that that neighbor couldn't be *sure* that it was the guy in red on the bottom and couldn't be *sure* that he was getting the tar beaten out of him?

13 posted on 07/05/2013 5:06:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: MrEdd

Defense will make a motion to dismiss charges since state has not made its case.


14 posted on 07/05/2013 5:08:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: don-o

I’m going to have a hat made that says...

“Creepy-Ass Cracker
that
Stands his ground!”

I might even add the Stars and Bars just for grins.


15 posted on 07/05/2013 5:10:02 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Uncle Chip; All

Yes....thanks for all you do.


16 posted on 07/05/2013 5:10:14 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Beagle8U

How about a T-shirt that says “I survived the Zimmerman trial and all I got was this lousy “Creepy-Ass Cracker” shirt”.


17 posted on 07/05/2013 5:11:20 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My little screed is simply a reminder / appeal for respect, civility and also staying on topic. Previous live threads have had had a few problems in those areas. There’s no need to revisit all that. Those who have seen it will understand.


18 posted on 07/05/2013 5:11:22 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Beagle8U

Or just CAC for short.


19 posted on 07/05/2013 5:12:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: XenaLee

That would also work!


20 posted on 07/05/2013 5:12:43 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Bronzy

No, I think it is Friday morning, this morning.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 5:13:55 AM PDT by ~Pandora
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To: NTHockey
Defense will make a motion to dismiss charges since state has not made its case.

The legal analyst for Oralando's Channel 9 said the other day that it's highly unlikely that the motion will be granted.After all,it's far to easy for members of the Black Panthers to get the judge's address,plate number,addresses of various places she frequents,etc.In fact,you can be sure they already have her "pre-sighted".

22 posted on 07/05/2013 5:14:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Does anyone know if the slim jim that was found was tested for prints????


23 posted on 07/05/2013 5:14:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Morning all. Will be doing some errands today. Do appreciate your play by play of what’s happening AND the lack of bickering when trying to catch up


24 posted on 07/05/2013 5:15:20 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: hoosiermama

I also will be away later and will also appreciate FReepers sharing what is being said as well as reaction and illuminating comments.


25 posted on 07/05/2013 5:19:52 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: ~Pandora
Thanks for the ping. I think the judge said that start time is 8:30 AM today.

No, I think it is Friday morning, this morning.

eh, wot?

26 posted on 07/05/2013 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Uncle Chip

I haven’t proved that Trayvon Martin is dead yet. They must produce either a death certificate or testimony from the medical examiner.


27 posted on 07/05/2013 5:21:44 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: XenaLee

Picture of judge with FIRE Cracker!

Heard two women discussing case. They said MOM should win cause he has better hair lol They were making fun of liberals not serious


28 posted on 07/05/2013 5:22:18 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: RummyChick

The first i heard of the slim jim was the other day...and it was in bushes that Trayvon jumped out of...so your’s is a valid question.
If Trayvon had the slim jim and was looking to break into a car...just saying
Freegards
LEX


29 posted on 07/05/2013 5:23:07 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NTHockey
Defense will make a motion to dismiss charges since state has not made its case.

I hope not! George Zimmerman needs to be acquitted. A mistrial means a 2nd trial and a free try for the state.

30 posted on 07/05/2013 5:25:31 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

In my fantasy world, by noon we’d see the Headline News panel agreeing that Sybrina Fulton was turning out to be another surprisingly effective witness for the Defense.


31 posted on 07/05/2013 5:28:50 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DCBryan1

Charges dismissed is not the same as mistrial.


32 posted on 07/05/2013 5:28:55 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Uncle Chip
Sundance makes a couple mistakes, but they'll resolve as the case proceeds.

The medical examiner will testify.

The defense can mention witnesses not called by the state, provided the defense calls the witness.

33 posted on 07/05/2013 5:30:22 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RummyChick

I wondered the same thing...MOM could have at least asked the question, to shine more of a light on the slim jim’s existence.

BTW, St Travon’s nickname was....’Slim’.


34 posted on 07/05/2013 5:31:25 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Bronzy

yes. The court is scheduled to start at 8:30 this (Friday) morning.


35 posted on 07/05/2013 5:31:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the ping:)


36 posted on 07/05/2013 5:32:51 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Uncle Chip

I think the talking head on WKMG is wrong when he says a motion for judgment of acquittal cannot take up self defense.


37 posted on 07/05/2013 5:33:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

There was a long discussion here about whether it could be used to open a window.

I just passed by those posts so don’t know the resolution but it seems to me that Slim Jim should have been tested.

But then again, they really mishandled Martin’s shirt.


38 posted on 07/05/2013 5:34:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Two simple questions for Sybrina:

1]Isn’t it true that your former husband, with whom Trayvon was living at the time, told you and others that he did not think it was his scream?

2]Isn’t it true that Trayvon was 6’2” tall?


39 posted on 07/05/2013 5:34:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DCBryan1

The case isn’t going to be thrown out for lack of a death. It’s not going to be thrown out by the judge (directed verdict) for lack of evidence by the prosecution. The jury does not and will not know about Martin’s real past and personality. The prosecution, weak as their case may be, has thrown enough out there to have a shot at conviction. I think too many FReepers are making the same mistake we made in the 2012 election, assuming everyone else sees what we see.


40 posted on 07/05/2013 5:34:56 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: hoosiermama

they can’t get the evidence door open..lolol


41 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

I don’t understand why the defense can’t call witnesses the prosecution didn’t call. For example, why can’t the defense call the medical examiner?


42 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:25 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: DCBryan1
I haven’t proved that Trayvon Martin is dead yet. They must produce either a death certificate or testimony from the medical examiner.

I wonder if O'Mara will be allowed to point out all the things missing from the state's case?

43 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:39 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: jiggyboy

I’d love to see a poll on Headline News, “which social media website will embarrass the prosecution today?” There aren’t many that haven’t already blown up in their faces.


44 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:46 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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They have now stipulated that TM is dead.


45 posted on 07/05/2013 5:36:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: hoosiermama

Lol! You mean....you appreciate the lack of several dozen snark posts that you have to skim past to get to the proceedings?


46 posted on 07/05/2013 5:37:51 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: NTHockey
-- Defense will make a motion to dismiss charges since state has not made its case. --

Technically, it is a motion for judgment of acquittal, not for dismissal.

O'Mara might (and could) move to dismiss based on immunity, but I don't think he will.

Motion for judgment of acquittal is routine.

47 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:06 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: XenaLee

ME coming in and two more.

No way they were wrapping up the case on Wednesday.


48 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All

Why would MOM agree to the stipulation that TM is dead?


49 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:33 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: sitetest; Uncle Chip

They can, they just have to wait their turn. They probably can’t ask TrayMom what TrayDad said about Trashcan’s voice (hearsay), but they can call him themselves later.


50 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:44 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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