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Israel fears US may suspend Egyptian aid
Globes ^ | 4 July 13 | Ran Dagoni

Posted on 07/05/2013 6:06:18 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Israel is concerned that cutting US aid to Egypt because of a military coup could jeopardize the peace treaty.

Israel is concerned that the Obama administration will suspend the $1.3 billion annual military aid to Egypt following the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi, and that suspension of aid could jeopardize the Israel-Egypt peace treaty. Israel may ask the US to find a way to continue the aid program, even though US law bans financial aid to regimes that seized power in a coup, US sources told "Globes" yesterday. The sources familiar with the complicated three-way US-Egyptian-Israeli relationship said that keeping the Israel-Egypt peace treaty was one of the pillars of the Morsi government. The US Congress, which controls the purse strings, was suspicious, and even hostile, to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood government. Its agreement, albeit with gritted teeth, to keep the peace treaty with Israel, was one of the main reasons why the pro-Israeli Congress agreed to continue aid to Egypt after the fall of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011.

Israel hopes that the Obama administration will understand the importance of aid to Egypt for maintaining stability in the Middle East, said the sources. In a statement yesterday, US President Barack Obama said that he had ordered a review of aid to Egypt in view of the developments in Cairo.

Morsi's ouster puts Obama in a bind: should the US, which sees itself as the world's leading democracy, support democracy as an institution and process, or a democratically elected leader who abused the process to seize dictatorial power and trample his political opponents? Should the democratic process trump everything else, including its self-destruction?

This dilemma forces the White House to ask the following question: does Morsi's ouster reflect the will of the people, and is therefore a democratic act, which excuses his ouster by the military, which was carrying out the people's will? Morsi won 52% of the vote in legitimate elections a year ago. Is it conceivable that Obama's opponents would march on Washington and demand that the US Army oust him because they do not like his governmental decisions?

In other words, was Morsi ousted in a military coup, or in a popular revolution? The difference will not just determine the Obama administration's support of the interim government and its successor, but the continuation of US military aid to Egypt.

The response by the White House to the upheaval in Cairo last night, the eve of US Independence Day, came after hours-long discussions by top political, military, and legal officials in Washington. The response indicates that the Obama administration has not yet a cohesive answer to these issues. The announcement expresses concern, if not anxiety, that the US will be perceived in the world as the power which legitimizes violent coups and turns its back on democratic processes. The writers went out of their way to stress that the US felt uncomfortable with the way Morsi was ousted, even if he was not an ideal democrat.

"The United States does not support particular individuals or political parties, but we are committed to the democratic process and respect for the rule of law," said Obama. He added, "We are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsi and suspend the Egyptian constitution. I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters. Given today’s developments, I have also directed the relevant departments and agencies to review the implications under US law for our assistance to the Government of Egypt."

"No transition to democracy comes without difficulty, but in the end it must stay true to the will of the people. An honest, capable and representative government is what ordinary Egyptians seek and what they deserve. The longstanding partnership between the United States and Egypt is based on shared interests and values, and we will continue to work with the Egyptian people to ensure that Egypt’s transition to democracy succeeds.

Commentators say that the Obama administration will find it difficult to keep the aid program to Egypt following Morsi's ouster, because of the explicit provisions of the law. The law requires the suspension of US military aid to allied countries if there is evidence that the military ousted a democratically elected government. The question of how the White House will define Morsi's ouster - military coup or popular uprising - is therefore critical.

Senator Patrick Leahy (Democrat, Vermont), the chairman of the Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs, told "Politico" that the law was clear. "US aid is cut off when a democratically elected government is deposed by military coup or decree." He added that his committee will “review future aid to the Egyptian government as we wait for a clearer picture. As the world’s oldest democracy, this is a time to reaffirm our commitment to the principle that transfers of power should be by the ballot, not by force of arms."

Leahy acknowledged that Morsi was a “disappointment” to many. “He squandered an historic opportunity, preferring to govern by fiat rather than work with other political parties to do what is best for all Egyptians."

In expectation of a tough argument with the US, a top Egyptian official who had severed his ties with Morsi, said, "When the army responds to the calls of 17 million citizens who came out on to the streets over the past five days with the demand for new presidential elections, this is not a coup. This is an uprising."

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news - www.globes-online.com - on July 4, 2013


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Sometimes Mid East politics strain logical analysis
1 posted on 07/05/2013 6:06:18 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"Israel hopes that the Obama administration will understand the importance of aid to Egypt for maintaining stability in the Middle East, said the sources."

If Israel thinks this is so important they should pay it themselves. We have our own concerns to pay for.

2 posted on 07/05/2013 6:09:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You gotta bribe the last man standing with money and jets to win favor, don’t ya know.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 6:11:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Hold an election in 10 days or less. Problem solved.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 6:13:07 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Sometimes?... :]


5 posted on 07/05/2013 6:14:05 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: circlecity

We have got people in Washington concerned with Middle Eastern stability while at the same time they sanction an illegal invasion on our southern border.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 6:14:43 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: dps.inspect

Only 99% of the time.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 6:15:19 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Not to worry.

The amount $1.4 billion is trivial in the long run. It will be quickly replaced by the Gulf states as a bridge donation until the flap blows over and US aid is resumed.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 6:18:29 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"This dilemma forces the White House to ask the following question: does Morsi's ouster reflect the will of the people, and is therefore a democratic act, which excuses his ouster by the military, which was carrying out the people's will? Morsi won 52% of the vote in legitimate elections a year ago. Is it conceivable that Obama's opponents would march on Washington and demand that the US Army oust him because they do not like his governmental decisions?"

Bring the spirit of Tahrir Square to Washington, DC, but that would require many millions of citizens to get up and out from in front of bread and circuses TV.

9 posted on 07/05/2013 6:21:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
In a single, succinct sentence.

Thank you, CK

(congrats on the promotion)

10 posted on 07/05/2013 6:22:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Bunk. Saudi Arabia fears the muslim brotherhood and will be more than willing to bankroll Egypt. They don’t need US
money or US meddling (and we have other uses for the money).


11 posted on 07/05/2013 6:23:23 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

This is how I know the U.S. debt isn’t a problem. We have PLENTY of money to throw around to the rest of the world. No worries.


12 posted on 07/05/2013 6:24:43 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Truth29

The spirit of Tahir Square came to the Mall in DC.

Obama’s paniced reaction was to order the IRS to destroy the seedling organizations that got their people to drive hundreds of miles to make their voices heard.

That order was a crime against the Republic. That should be declared a capital crime and Obama et al executed for crimes against the Republic.

The tumbrels should be rolling doen Constiturion Avenue


13 posted on 07/05/2013 6:26:56 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: bert
But they aren't. Ten million citizens with torches, pitchforks and a willingness to drag the usurper out of the White House might have made a difference, but it didn't happen. I don't see a broad willingness in the US populace to go for highly confrontational demonstrations and do what is necessary to depose the Obama Regime.
14 posted on 07/05/2013 6:35:56 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

> We have got people in Washington concerned with Middle Eastern stability while at the same time they sanction an illegal invasion on our southern border.

Good point. If Egyptians could vote in US elections they’d get their funding pronto...


15 posted on 07/05/2013 6:37:58 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

.......don’t worry, our government, led by the career lefties at the State Department, can be counted on, as always, to do EXACTLY the wrong thing!

After all, “it’s not THEIR money!”


16 posted on 07/05/2013 6:39:28 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Of course oblammer will try to defund Egypt, he’s in the tank for the Muslim brotherhood and wants to restore Morsi, who he championed in the first place. Birds of a feather...


17 posted on 07/05/2013 6:40:52 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"The sources familiar with the complicated three-way US-Egyptian-Israeli relationship said that keeping the Israel-Egypt peace treaty was one of the pillars of the Morsi government."


18 posted on 07/05/2013 6:41:47 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Truth29

> “This dilemma forces the White House to ask the following question: does Morsi’s ouster reflect the will of the people, and is therefore a democratic act, which excuses his ouster by the military, which was carrying out the people’s will? Morsi won 52% of the vote in legitimate elections a year ago. Is it conceivable that Obama’s opponents would march on Washington and demand that the US Army oust him because they do not like his governmental decisions?”

I’m sure that Obama’s thoughts started running wild watching the Egyptian uprising on TV until he remembered that he’d already prepared a brown shirt army with billions of bullets, APCs, and mounted microwave fryers for the masses, then sighed with relief...


19 posted on 07/05/2013 6:42:52 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Truth29

Is it conceivable that Obama’s opponents would march on Washington and demand that the US Army oust him because they do not like his governmental decisions?”

If Obama keeps pushing the Constitutional limits,
we’ll find out.


20 posted on 07/05/2013 6:45:45 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Our aid to Egypt’s military kept open lines to friendly leaders within the armed forces hierarchy in that country. There are moderates within which were and are important to maintain.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 6:58:06 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

“There are moderates within which were and are important to maintain”

But they don’t need billions from us in F-16’s and Abrams tanks. They need to hire Israelis to teach them how to grow crops in the desert.


22 posted on 07/05/2013 8:01:41 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Colonel Kangaroo.
Senator Patrick Leahy (Democrat, Vermont), the chairman of the Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs, told "Politico" that the law was clear. "US aid is cut off when a democratically elected government is deposed by military coup or decree." He added that his committee will “review future aid to the Egyptian government as we wait for a clearer picture. As the world’s oldest democracy, this is a time to reaffirm our commitment to the principle that transfers of power should be by the ballot, not by force of arms." Leahy acknowledged that Morsi was a “disappointment” to many. “He squandered an historic opportunity, preferring to govern by fiat rather than work with other political parties to do what is best for all Egyptians." In expectation of a tough argument with the US, a top Egyptian official who had severed his ties with Morsi, said, "When the army responds to the calls of 17 million citizens who came out on to the streets over the past five days with the demand for new presidential elections, this is not a coup. This is an uprising."
If you want to know Leahy's FR nick, just wait here.

The anti-American party-line stooge Leahy has, since the death of Tubby Kennedy and the WV Kleagle, exhibit A in the case for term limits.


23 posted on 07/05/2013 9:09:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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24 posted on 07/05/2013 10:44:03 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Let me get this straight:

The elected government is taking it straight on a path to be the next Cuba or Iran, with all freedoms ending. NO PROBLEM there...here’s your 1.5 Billion, and you’re welcome, glad to be of service.

So the military steps in, ends that crap, and states that there will be elections soon, and that participants have to vow NOT to enslave women and cut off hands. Too much for us, NO MORE MONEY.

Then you have Syria, where a CIVIL WAR is going on because a bunch of disgruntled losers want to overthrow the government. NO PROBLEM - here’s your hundreds of millions in cash, and you’re welcome, glad to be of service.

Welcome to DEMOCRAT foreign policy standards.


25 posted on 07/05/2013 10:49:30 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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