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1 posted on 07/05/2013 12:23:49 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: NYer; Salvation; narses; Chode; Tax-chick

viva la pope


2 posted on 07/05/2013 12:25:24 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Santo Subito.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 12:25:37 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Morgana

I have a medal given to my sister from JP II. It was blessed and touched to his tomb as well.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 12:27:58 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Morgana
I propose a name for our new Saint:

"Saint Communism Killer the 1st"

But I suppose Saint John Paul will work in a pinch!


6 posted on 07/05/2013 12:31:54 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Morgana

Tainted sainthood.

He, as well as his predecessors, had the opportunity to please their savior by tossing out the evil fomented by Vatican II.

He, as well as they, didn’t.

John Paul is no saint as he found out when he faced his Maker.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 12:43:47 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Morgana

Viva il Papa!


19 posted on 07/05/2013 1:08:31 PM PDT by Jacvin
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To: Morgana

If he wasn’t a saint when he died, he isn’t becoming one now...


22 posted on 07/05/2013 1:46:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: Morgana

Knew this for the last few days. But then again knew this since Pope John Paul II had passed he was a saint.


24 posted on 07/05/2013 2:05:35 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Morgana

It’s going to be hard for some people, getting to Heaven and finding the place is full of people they don’t think deserve to be there.

Actually, wouldn’t that make it Purgatory, not Heaven, since Heaven is perfect happiness? Maybe one of the necessary steps for entering Heaven is to understand that, during my life, I was totally dead wrong about a lot of things.


28 posted on 07/05/2013 3:28:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: Morgana

I’m not a Catholic and in any case don’t know the whys and wherefores of sainthood. I DO know a LOT about the Cold War, the conduct of it and the factors that led to the collapse of the Soviets and the Bloc, and in THIS respect I think it’s fair to say that John Paul II was a GIANT of a man. That’s why his photo is on my wall, right next to Reagan’s.


37 posted on 07/05/2013 8:18:53 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Morgana
Allow me to be a second turd in the punch bowl. While JPII's pontificate had some towering achievements, he certainly failed in taking on the homosexual clergy issue. There are many permanently damaged lives out there caused by priestly sex abuse. He apparently did nothing to address the "gay mafia" in the Vatican itself, given this latest round of allegations. I think that he never really believed it was a huge problem.

I also believe that JPII knew that the real clergy sex abuse was happening in places like the United States, and he didn't like the United States very much. He distrusted our economic system, he distrusted our freedom, and he didn't like the fact that we were as successful as we were. JPII was infected by the sort of sneering hubris common among European intellectuals.

Was he a saint? I have no idea. He was a great man. I object only to the fact that they "fast tracked" him like this. Time was needed to allow these themes to be developed more fully.

39 posted on 07/05/2013 8:31:38 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Morgana

How many kids got buggered while this “saint” was on watch? No way he didn’t know about it.


47 posted on 07/06/2013 4:28:31 AM PDT by strider44
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To: Morgana

I’m glad to hear this.


54 posted on 07/06/2013 9:13:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Morgana

I think December 8 probably get chosen as sainthood swearing in or whatver they call it in Cathoic church


80 posted on 07/07/2013 3:48:23 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: All

Honest Question for my Catholic friends here...has/does/can the church ever “Saint” anyone who is not Catholic?

Just would love to see St. Ronaldus Magnus or St. Thatcher of Iron go in along with JP2.

Seriously though, in a world where so many “religious leaders” range from charlatans to milquetoast, great to see honor given to JP2, who even I a lowly protestant see as a good man who loved God and used that Love as motivation to do great things on earth....or as we say sometimes, did not have his head in the clouds so much that he was not of any earthly good.


81 posted on 07/07/2013 7:23:59 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: Morgana

This is no different than “someone else we know”, getting an incredibly undeserved NPP.


82 posted on 07/08/2013 10:27:31 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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