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Walker: I have not endorsed the Senate immigration bill
Examiner ^ | 07/05/13

Posted on 07/05/2013 1:26:48 PM PDT by Perdogg

Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker is refuting a local newspaper’s report that he has endorsed the Senate immigration reform bill. The governor’s office told the Weekly Standard: “Governor Walker has not endorsed any specific policy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnesty4illegals; randsconcerntrolls; scottwalker

1 posted on 07/05/2013 1:26:48 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Good!


2 posted on 07/05/2013 1:28:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

I didn’t think he had on that thread we had.

Walker/Cruz ‘16!


3 posted on 07/05/2013 1:38:24 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework, OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: txhurl
Walker/Cruz ‘16!

Sounds like Walker changed his mind after seeing the blowback on RINO-Rubio.

4 posted on 07/05/2013 1:41:00 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Perdogg

Wisconsin Rapids Daily Herald editorial board: “Walker said he is in favor of the Senate immigration bill”

Video at link: Walker says no such thing. Walker talks about reforming the present legal immigration system to accomodate hard workers from other countries THAT ARE NOT YET HERE.

Yet another liberal media outlet tries to divide conservatives with false information. But now we can tell who they don’t want running for POTUS.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 1:45:19 PM PDT by kidd
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To: newfreep

No.

A liberal media outlet purposely misrepresented his statements. Go to the link and watch the video.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 1:46:43 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Perdogg

I knew this was likely the case, yesterday. There were far too many FReepers that were ready to write off Walker over a single source.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 1:54:31 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Perdogg

Sounds like he’s doing a Sarah Palin on this issue. Essentially, that’s saying that our system is BROKEN, saying that we need a SERIOUS OVERHAUL, and then NOT SAYING specifically what that would be.

The problem with that: There is ONLY ONE GAME in town right now regarding overhauling immigration, and that is AMNESTY. So I don’t blame the newspaper for connecting the dots.


So, here’s what a REAL OVERHAUL of immigration might include:

1) Verifying that EVERYONE employed is legal. All businesses would have to certify such (i.e., E-Verify), or owners face jail. This would be a notarized form they sign.

2) Likewise business owners would promise (under threat of jail) to run background checks on all new employees (again, E-Verify).

3) Any conviction of anything beyond a speeding ticket results in immediate deportation. This does include driving without a license. It also includes presenting false papers for employment or anything. Also, no chance ever to immigrate here legally if caught after implementation of the law (an no chance ever, if convicted of a serious crime in the past).

4) Build a complete wall/fence along the Mexican border.

5) Not speaking English reasonably well is probable cause for any cop to ask for proof of citizenship. Once stopped for any probable cause (i.e., other crimes), anyone can be asked to prove they are legal.

6) Proof of citizenship required for anyone accessing federal/state benefits.

7) Proof of citizenship for EVERYONE attending a college that receives federal money in any way (i.e., nearly all of them). I’d say the same for K-12, but given our schools, I think most of the parents already understand they’d be better off in Mexico.

8) Enforcement of student visas. If a visa expires, law enforcement and colleges, etc. are notified immediately and the college administrators face jail time if they harbor the illegal in any way (because they will otherwise).

9) Enforcement of all other visas, same way.

10) Zero tolerance for visa overstays. Overstay without a good cause (like being stuck an extra week because your passport was just stolen), then you are NEVER permitted to step foot in this country and will hit with a felony if you sneak in.

11) Photo ID at Mexican standards for voting (look it up, it’s really, really, good there).

12) Occasional raids on business, to the extent necessary to convince employers that the government is serious.


Note what is not there:
1) NO AMNESTY
2) No huge hunting down of illegals already here, for deportation (beyond the occasional raids mentioned above). Overall, once you cutoff welfare, employment, and access to college - they’ll go home themselves.

The wall/fence might not even be needed, if the other items were done. This would be a VERY BORING country to people thinking of coming here.

Now has ANY REPUBLICAN proposed anything close to this? If so, I haven’t seen it. So, if they’re not up to proposing something like this, they need to either SHUT UP, or simply state that they oppose the Senate bill. Saying that the system is broken, and then not giving any ways to fix it does make that person sound like a fan of amnesty, as governor Walker just learned.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 2:31:50 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: BobL

Okay, but let’s make sure everyone is treated the same and held to the same standard whether they are Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio, or...Michelle Bachmann.


9 posted on 07/05/2013 2:36:31 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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10 posted on 07/05/2013 2:40:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Perdogg

“Okay, but let’s make sure everyone is treated the same and held to the same standard whether they are Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio, or...Michelle Bachmann.”

Fair enough.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 2:52:01 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: newfreep
Sounds like Walker changed his mind after seeing the blowback on RINO-Rubio.

You've obviously forgotten the presses behavior during the big showdown in WI a couple of years ago. Partial quotes which were misleading, deliberate misquotes, and outright lies. This is simply more of the same.

All designed to depress supporters.

12 posted on 07/05/2013 3:40:00 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Perdogg

13 posted on 07/05/2013 3:58:14 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kidd
A liberal media outlet purposely misrepresented his statements.

You're not saying a Democrat "mainstream" newsroom is lying in order to smear a strong conservative?
No. They would never do that.

14 posted on 07/05/2013 4:20:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Balding_Eagle

Many on here are too quick to judge without having full knowledge of facts. I thought that was what liberals do??


15 posted on 07/05/2013 4:22:20 PM PDT by Catsrus (gg)
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To: BobL; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Impy; Nextrush; cliff630; DoughtyOne; ZULU; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
Sounds like he’s doing a Sarah Palin on this issue. Essentially, that’s saying that our system is BROKEN, saying that we need a SERIOUS OVERHAUL, and then NOT SAYING specifically what that would be. The problem with that: There is ONLY ONE GAME in town right now regarding overhauling immigration, and that is AMNESTY. So I don’t blame the newspaper for connecting the dots.

Maybe this sounds worse than it really is. I would like to believe that Walker is on the right side on this issue. It doesn't make sense that the man who beat the Dems in Wisconsin would want to import enough leftists to make sure the GOP never wins another election.

But according to this article, which corrects the false report that Walker publicly endorsed the senate bill, Walker added that there needed to be “a larger way” to reform the system to make immigrating easier. “Because if it wasn’t so cumbersome, if there wasn’t such a long wait, if it wasn’t so difficult to get in, we wouldn’t have the other problems that we have.”

That sounds like an UH-OH to me Obama claims he doesn't have time to do background checks, and Walker wants to make the process easier?

I will meticulously examine any future Walker statements on immigration.

16 posted on 07/05/2013 8:04:15 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Perdogg; BillyBoy; BobL; Nextrush; cliff630; ..
RE :”That sounds like an UH-OH to me Obama claims he doesn't have time to do background checks, and Walker wants to make the process easier?
I will meticulously examine any future Walker statements on immigration.

The current system takes relatives of immigrants here and jumps them ahead of everyone else in line, much like amnesty would do. Here you see Koreans with lots of $$$ bringing in parents and then signing them up for food stamps.

This type of talk is about prioritizing legal immigration based on job skills not family ties.
That is usually what they mean when those in GOP say the system is broken,

My uncle told me that he and his wife (a US citizen) had to wait 10 years to get her daughter a green card because of a lack of written birth records in her country, finally a blood test did it. Now she is a US citizen too.
He is livid over illegals getting amnesty.

17 posted on 07/05/2013 9:05:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

When I hear Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin on this I get a clear answer.

Ted Cruz is clear in his position.

Its very telling that Governor Walker’s message is not clear and appears to mirror the phony conservative ads that speak of a “broken system” of immigration.

Publicly, he doesn’t endorse the Senate bill but privately he must be fine with it since it has “security” in it with the Corker-Hoeven amendment and fixes the system.

Reading his answer all I saw was doubletalk and political speak.


18 posted on 07/05/2013 9:22:51 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Perdogg; BillyBoy; BobL; Nextrush; cliff630; DoughtyOne; ...
This type of talk is about prioritizing legal immigration based on job skills not family ties.

I hope you are right about that, but if so Walker's statements are likely to be misunderstood. It sounded to me like those poor illegal aliens had to wait too long. And although I agree with you that family-based immigration is harmful, I am not convinced congress tinkering further with job skill quotas would be fair to US workers.

That is usually what they mean when those in GOP say the system is broken,

Not when the Gang of 8 says it.

19 posted on 07/05/2013 9:23:10 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs

The conservative position right now is NO BILL COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE.

If one does the legislative process will lead to an Obama signature on amnesty.

Why isn’t Walker saying what conservatives are saying about the immigration issue right now and calling it by its proper name....amnesty?

“A liberal newspaper smeared Walker” is a nice try for cover and the usual attempt by political operatives to spin to conservative resentment of the biased media.

But until Scott Walker says “NO AMNESTY” and ‘NO IMMIGRATION BILL SHOULD BE PASSED BY THE HOUSE’ I have him down as a business as usual RINO politician on this issue.


20 posted on 07/05/2013 9:31:36 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush
RE :”The conservative position right now is NO BILL COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE.

I recall that ‘conservative’ position was taken on both the tax cut expiration (remember plan B ?) and the Senate version of VAWA which included added protections for gays and illegals.

This ‘position’ in both cases ended with the House (using Pelosi votes) passing BOTH Reid Senate bills AS IS to Obama’s desk.

So that ‘position’ was no magic solution. Still waiting to read why those were successes.

21 posted on 07/05/2013 9:51:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

You and I know that Boehner and 20 RINO’s can bring a bill out if they wish with the Dems.

If the GOP unites and says NO BILL there’s NO BILL because they are a majority.

The legislative process takes over if there is a bill passed by the House and amnesty will then become law.

NO BILL OR WE GET AMNESTY....

You don’t want amnesty, right??????


22 posted on 07/05/2013 10:03:15 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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RE :”That is usually what they mean when those in GOP say the system is broken,
....
Not when the Gang of 8 says it.

I cant say what Walker is up here but fortunately he did diss the Senate bill. I assume like the others the ‘job creators’(2012 theme) are talking to him.

There is a need for high skill workers who will pay taxes but they are also claiming that we have too few low skill workers too, in spite of a historical high food stamp take, and libs complaining endlessly about the disparity in incomes in the USA.

The current system is broken and we cant trust the congress to fix it and we cant trust a POTUS to enforce a fix anyway.
That is the sad state.

23 posted on 07/05/2013 10:03:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Nextrush
RE :”You and I know that Boehner and 20 RINO’s can bring a bill out if they wish with the Dems.
If the GOP unites and says NO BILL there’s NO BILL because they are a majority.”

Look, I don't trust Ryan on amnesty at all and when Levin and CO call him ‘my good friend’ it gives me the creeps.

But history has proved that House conservatives just saying NO and not providing serious alternatives in the house can lead to disaster: Bohner getting Pelosi votes to pass Senate bills giving her back the House control.

Every time this happens it shows Americans that the GOP shouldn't be trusted with anything and might as well vote Dem.

24 posted on 07/05/2013 10:10:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Nextrush; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
The conservative position right now is NO BILL COMES OUT OF THE HOUSE.

But the House GOP is busy producing its own Comprehensive Immigration Whopper. Plus I can't get a straight answer from House members what they want it to be.

Trey Gowdy is on the judiciary committee. I read a doubletalk response (written no doubt by an intern) to a freeper:

nation of immigrants Bla Bla

Our current immigration system is broken Bla Bla The process is too long Bla Bla

The border remains unsecured. Bla Bla

The visa program relied upon by our farmers is too onerous and cumbersome. Bla Bla

In addition, the immigration laws must be enforced. (As Obama and crew read the GOP Border Security parts and says "LMAO!!!")

Our congressional district has benefitted mightily from foreign investment and the legal immigration our country is rooted in. Bla bla

NOTE! No promise not to pass a path-to-citizenship

25 posted on 07/05/2013 10:11:35 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Nextrush
RE:”NO BILL OR WE GET AMNESTY....”

No bill to Obama’s desk certainly. But that doesn't mean no bill passed by house.

26 posted on 07/05/2013 10:12:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Nextrush; stephenjohnbanker
RE:”NOTE! No promise not to pass a path-to-citizenship”

DA-DA,
How is Obama going to convince Dems to go for a bill that legalizes more workers without giving them the vote to all vote Dem? Voting is a huge rights issue with Dems.

They would rebel much like we have seen the GOP fracture.

I see citizenship as a great poison pill but I would add lots more, like NO unionization OWCH.

27 posted on 07/05/2013 10:19:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Conservatives have put the message out that no bill can pass
on immigration out of the House.

You toy with all those amendments in post 27 but why make a fuss because the Senate won’t take it, they will all be excised in conference and a final version will pass with a few GOP votes and all Democrat ones.

Then Obama gets to sign amnesty.

THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION REMAINS THAT THE HOUSE MUST NOT PASS ANY IMMIGRATION BILL.....


28 posted on 07/05/2013 10:26:25 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: sickoflibs; Nextrush; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ZULU
How is Obama going to convince Dems to go for a bill that legalizes more workers without giving them the vote to all vote Dem? Voting is a huge rights issue with Dems. They would rebel much like we have seen the GOP fracture. I see citizenship as a great poison pill but I would add lots more, like NO unionization OWCH.

Unfortunately, to hear House GOP members, border security is a higher priority than stopping amnesty. I keep calling but I feel like I am getting the runaround.

29 posted on 07/05/2013 10:28:25 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Boehner is scheming as we speak and if he goes forward with a bill like his business special interest paymasters want him to, he’s kissing the conservative grassroots goodbye.

The GOP is leaving us.......


30 posted on 07/05/2013 10:30:27 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush

31 posted on 07/06/2013 12:01:18 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The “border security” is a have it both ways trojan horse since the big money and even smaller money is telling GOP politicians they want cheap labor.

They want to sucker people into supporting what the big money givers want the politicians to do.


32 posted on 07/06/2013 5:14:26 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush

The main question, to help partially determine where he stands should be:

Did he denounce it?

Lack of endorsement doesn’t mean he doesn’t support it...


33 posted on 07/06/2013 5:23:21 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Politicians parse their words with too much regularity and only few out there speak clearly.

I have posted before my firm belief that 90 percent plus of the elected Republicans at all levels are not authentically conservative.


34 posted on 07/06/2013 10:05:50 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush
RE :”Conservatives have put the message out that no bill can pass on immigration out of the House.”

*conservatives* huh ???
I has seen this same plan tried before ending in disaster, the Reid Senate bills on Obama’s desk..

Do your *conservatives* explain why it didn't work then but will work now? What has changed in a few months?

In this case Bohner can wait and if nothing is passed by the 2014 primaries he can just put the Senate bill up for a vote.

35 posted on 07/06/2013 7:09:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

The primaries come different months in different states but what would be good is having third party candidates ready to go who will be an option in case of any last minute funny business.

My premise regarding elected Republicans is that 90 percent or more of them are phony and need replaced anyway.

Go after them in the primaries with conservative candidates and have a third party candidate ready to go if the incumbent RINO wins the primary.


36 posted on 07/06/2013 7:14:58 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush

I get the feeling that Rubio will be the 2016 nominee.


37 posted on 07/06/2013 7:18:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; Nextrush; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ZULU

” Unfortunately, to hear House GOP members, border security is a higher priority than stopping amnesty. I keep calling but I feel like I am getting the runaround. “

Keep calling the SOB’s! I spent all day friday, doing this.


38 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Keep calling the SOB’s! I spent all day friday, doing this.

I did again today and said vote against both the senate and House immigration bills.

39 posted on 07/08/2013 9:25:15 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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