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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly "Day of Rejection"
Various | Friday, July 5, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/05/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: Texas Fossil

You’re welcome.

Something is wrong with posting/editing. I can’t get it straight.

I’ll review this simple post.

It’s OK.


5,221 posted on 01/15/2014 9:42:54 AM PST by melancholy
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To: Texas Fossil; kristinn; MestaMachine; LucyT; azishot; All

Here’s a CNN Amanpour interview with “RICH” Naguib Sawaris!

Amanpour referring to the Egyptian government as “military,” accused NS of bankrolling the ouster of Morsi, etc.

She wouldn’t accept his answers when he told her: I don’t know where you’re getting your info from!

At the end, when NS told Amanpour to listen to Morsi’s recorded conversations with el Zwahri and to have her experts authenticate it, she called this “outrageous allegations” with no proof, threw her hands in the air and ended the interview!

THAT is a taste of what may come out of Egypt in Morsi’s trial and the role of the USA government in defending the Islamist terrorists!

http://almogaz.com/news/politics/2014/01/15/1292770

Enjoy the manhandling of our Islamocommie media!


5,222 posted on 01/15/2014 10:13:06 AM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Thank you, mel. I have used this thread so many times as an example of being the best FR can be and did so again this morning. Thank you for proving my point...again.


5,223 posted on 01/15/2014 12:03:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

You’re very welcome, Mesta.

Wow, coming from a great FReeper like you is quite a complement.

Thank YOU!


5,224 posted on 01/15/2014 2:04:31 PM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

For our friends like me who cannot read Arabic this might give a hint. Not good substitute for language skills, but better than nothing (sometimes).

Thanks again for you valuable perspective.


5,225 posted on 01/15/2014 6:38:10 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: melancholy

CORRECTION > Left out the link I intended to place

For our friends like me who cannot read Arabic this might give a hint. Not good substitute for language skills, but better than nothing (sometimes).

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Falmogaz.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2014%2F01%2F15%2F1292770

Thanks again for you valuable perspective.


5,226 posted on 01/15/2014 6:39:03 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

You’re welcome, sir.

I’ll do what I can.

Luckily, the CNN video was in English and the last part was very telling of the commie media’s agenda!


5,227 posted on 01/15/2014 8:56:44 PM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Not me who’s the ‘great Freeper’, mel. It’s you guys who do all the work. You don’t know how appreciated you are.


5,228 posted on 01/16/2014 1:54:33 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine; Texas Fossil; kristinn; LucyT; azishot; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
Disrespecting 0b0z0 abroad is NOT reported by our media lapdogs.

Here's what Egyptians think of 0b0z0 and his manhood/sexual "orientation" :

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Kid: Uncle...uncle, is it true that Sisi spread your legs?!!

0b0z0: not only my legs!! Also uncle Erdogan's and uncle Tamim's (Qatari?) and uncle Morsi's and all the MB's.

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We are thorry, THithi.

5,229 posted on 01/16/2014 6:49:21 AM PST by melancholy
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To: kristinn; MestaMachine; Texas Fossil; All
Just received this analysis by email.

I added my comments between [...]

Saudi King Sees Egypt Too Big to Fail Under Friendly General By Alaa Shahine and Glen Carey Jan 16, 2014 7:00 AM ET

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U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, left, and Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah talk on January 5, 2014

When Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah held talks with Secretary of State John Kerry on Nov. 4, his main concern wasn’t U.S. policy toward Iran’s nuclear program or Syria’s war as the visitors had expected: it was Egypt.

The king, 89, insisted that Egypt was too important to be allowed to fail, according to two people familiar with the talks, who requested anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak to the media. Abdullah is already acting to make sure it doesn’t, joining other Gulf monarchs to pledge $15 billion in aid since Egypt’s army under Abdelfatah al-Seesi ousted Islamist President Mohamed Mursi in July.

The Gulf allies are betting that their money can help build a stable Egypt run by sympathetic generals, after three years of chaos. Saudi rulers deplored the fall of Hosni Mubarak in 2011, and worse still was the rise of Mursi’s Muslim Brotherhood, viewed by the Gulf’s absolute monarchies as a threat because it seeks to bring political Islam to power via the ballot box.

Now the Brotherhood is in retreat, labeled a terrorist group, its leaders on trial, and thousands of its supporters killed or jailed. Al-Seesi, who led the crackdown, hasn’t ruled out a run for president this year. Gulf money is likely to keep flowing, analysts say, in an effort to ensure that Egypt’s latest rulers aren’t dragged down by the economic failure that undermined Mursi’s one-year rule.

‘Strong Willpower’

The Gulf allies “without a doubt appear to want al-Seesi to become president,” said Theodore Karasik, director of research at the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis in Dubai. “The generals present a strong willpower to keep Egypt stable. The Gulf states respect this mentality.”

The first test of al-Seesi’s ballot-box appeal was this week’s referendum on a new constitution, widely seen in Egypt as a vote of confidence in the army takeover. The ballot ended yesterday, and while results haven’t been published, unofficial returns suggest the charter was backed by at least 90 percent of participants. There was no reliable figure for voter turnout.

It was held amid regular bomb attacks on security forces and protests by Mursi supporters, who boycotted the vote. Also part of the backdrop was Egypt’s stalled economy, which has been growing at the slowest pace in two decades, barely outpacing the population. The army-backed government that took over from Mursi inherited record unemployment and a budget deficit at 14 percent of gross domestic product.

Lifting Egypt

Money from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait has helped ease the pain, replenishing Egypt’s foreign reserves and stemming the pound’s decline. The benchmark stock index has rebounded 45 percent since the army intervention, and yields on one-year debt dropped more than 4 percentage points to 11 percent.

“The Gulf states realize the size of the problem in Egypt,” said Mohamed Abu Basha, an economist at EFG-Hermes, Egypt’s biggest investment bank. “They’re willing to give Egypt a lift for some time.”

Egypt’s slide into dependency on Gulf backers is a comedown for a country that once led the Arab world.

Under Gamal Abdel Nasser, Egypt was at the forefront of a wave of Arab nationalism, promoting plans that included a short-lived merger with Syria. Its influence declined after Nasser’s successor Anwar Sadat broke from Arab allies, with encouragement from the U.S., to sign a separate peace with Israel in 1979. For three decades under Mubarak, Egypt was a bit-part-player on the international stage, though at least it was mostly solvent.

On-Off Talks

Now, even the Gulf money won’t be enough to keep the country afloat indefinitely, and eventually “there will be a need for additional resources,” Abu Basha said. He said the Gulf monarchies can help out there too, by “lobbying for IMF support.”

Three years of on-off talks between Egypt and the International Monetary Fund have failed to produce a deal. The U.S. is the Fund’s biggest shareholder, and there are signs that its policy is shifting since the Kerry-Abdullah meeting.

A longtime ally of Egypt’s generals, the U.S. has hedged its bets over their re-entry into politics. The Obama administration declined to call it a coup, yet it suspended military aid in October and has expressed concern about the killing of Mursi supporters.

Kerry told King Abdullah that the U.S. did the minimum it could under law in response to Mursi’s ouster, according to a person briefed on the matter. A week after the meeting, Kerry held talks in Abu Dhabi and said that the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. had agreed on “specific joint efforts” to support Egypt’s economy.

Shared Interest

Last month, a team of U.S. officials from the Treasury and State Department met U.A.E. and Saudi counterparts to discuss measures to restore investor confidence in Egypt.

[In the last few paragraphs, Reading between the lines, they're trying to save the MB from their fate in Egypt. I also suspect, they're trying to nip Morsi's trial in the bud.]

The U.S. and Saudi Arabia share “a strong interest in promoting reforms that will allow Egypt to return to financial sustainability,” Johann Schmonsees, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh, said in response to e-mailed questions. The Saudi Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the meeting between Kerry and the king.

Collaboration on Egypt may help ease tensions on other regional issues. Gulf leaders have questioned the U.S. diplomatic engagement with Iran, and expressed skepticism about its commitment to support the rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad in Syria.

[The Saudi position on Syria is 180° from their position on Egypt. Go figure!]

Blocking Solution

Saudi Arabia and its neighbors also have business reasons to hope for an Egyptian revival.

At stake are billions of dollars of investments by companies from Dubai developer Emaar Properties PJSC (EMAAR) to Saudi food producer Savola (SAVOLA) to U.A.E.-based Dana Gas PJSC, which began to receive long-overdue payments from Egypt last month. Citadel Capital SAE, a Cairo-based private equity firm founded in 2004, lists an Abu Dhabi fund among its biggest investors.

The U.A.E. has set up an office in Cairo to oversee the implementation of projects financed by aid money, including clinics, schools, affordable housing and wheat silos. Last month, State Minister Sultan Al-Ahmed Al-Jaber inspected some of the projects under the army’s supervision in southern Egypt.

Money, though, won’t be enough to bring stability to Egypt. The Saudi-backed crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood, which has won every election since Mubarak’s fall, is an obstacle to a solution, according to Anthony Dworkin and Helene Michow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

[More Islamist apologists support from Western Europe!]

“Egypt’s economic and social problems cannot be solved without a political settlement that enjoys broad-based acceptance,” they wrote in a paper published last week.

‘Potential Blowback’

Since Mursi’s ouster, security forces have killed hundreds of his supporters in clashes across the country. Most of the group’s senior leaders are on trial for charges including inciting violence and murder. Last month, the interim government classified the organization as a terrorist group, blaming it for a string of bombings without providing evidence.

[TOTAL BS! Not true! We know this in the past thousands of documented posts on this thread. No wiggle room for the 0b0z0idsI]

Yet a September survey found support for al-Seesi and Mursi was almost equal.

[TOTAL BS! I see the commie media polling lies!]

That highlights the risks Gulf countries are taking in their bet on Egypt, said Paul Sullivan, a Middle East specialist at Georgetown University in Washington.

“One of the biggest pitfalls is the potential blowback by the Muslim Brotherhood and their allies,” Sullivan said. “Getting rid of Mursi and some supporters isn’t the same thing as getting rid of the instability that the Brotherhood and related groups can cause in the future.”

‘Black Hole’

Only Qatar among the Gulf monarchies backed the Brotherhood in Egypt, sending billions of dollars of aid when Mursi was in power. Since his fall, Egypt has sent back some of the money, and arrested journalists from the Qatar-owned Al Jazeera television channel. Earlier this month it summoned the Qatari ambassador to protest “interference in internal affairs.”

For Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E., though, Mursi’s one-year presidency interrupted more than two decades of close ties with Egypt under Mubarak, a former air force commander.

“The army is the only institution that they’re comfortable to work with,” Ghanem Nuseibeh, founder of Cornerstone Global Associates, which advises clients on risk in the Middle East, said from Abu Dhabi. “The army doesn’t have the capability to run the economy,” which is why the Gulf states are “trying to provide technical assistance.”

[LOL! The Gulf States are trying to provide "technical" assistance to Egypt! They will try to apply what Egyptian teachers and professors taught them or would they repatriate Egyptian technical personnel who are running the Gulf States industries and schools?]

“If the wrong people come to power,” Nuseibeh said, “it will be a dilemma whether to continue pouring money into a black hole, which is what Egypt potentially is.”

5,230 posted on 01/16/2014 2:03:51 PM PST by melancholy
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To: MestaMachine

Evidence on Mohamed Mursi’s direct link to terror acts in Egypt (like lawless Obama)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3117047/posts

Connects the dots on Obama, Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists. Shows same disregards by Morsi to constitutional restraints on his power as Obama shows disregards to our Constitution.


5,231 posted on 01/29/2014 10:49:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; MestaMachine; kristinn; maggief; caww; LucyT; azishot; All

Code Pink Islamofascist whores deported from Egypt without achieving their objective of stirring trouble and demonstrating with Hamas and 0b0z0’s buddies in Gaza and possibly Egypt!

The Egyptian authorities were alerted in early February of the the plans to stir trouble in Egypt hatched by Susan Benjamin and her Code Pink gang starting yesterday, March 4. They intended to cross to Gaza to stage demonstrations FOR Hamas and the MB to embarrass Egypt and help 0b0z0.

This article was published today in the 7th Day Egyptian newspaper:

http://www1.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=1540645#.Uxd6p5K9KSN

TRANSLATION:

Title: Deportation of 8 foreign women activists who wanted to go to Gaza

Today, Wednesday, Cairo International Airport authorities deported 8 female activists after refusing entry to Egypt after discovering their intention to travel to Gaza in spite of the Sinai-Gaza crossing closure for an indeterminate time period.

The airport security declared that the activists were American, Belgian and Swiss nationals who arrived on Swiss and Austrian air carriers.

In addition, the activists wanted to go to Gaza with an 80-woman delegation that includes 80 Arabs and foreigners, including the Algerian fighter, Gameela bo-hraid. [from the independence war from France.]

They were told of the Sinai-Gaza crossing closure for an indeterminate time period and that they couldn’t go there. They were given a choice of whatever country they chose to travel to and were deported to Europe.

Note that the Cairo Airport authorities, yesterday, Tuesday, Susan Benjamin was deported to Turkey and two British activists to London, UK. They also intended to travel to Gaza.


5,232 posted on 03/05/2014 12:21:50 PM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Thanks for the update.


5,233 posted on 03/05/2014 12:37:39 PM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: kristinn; Texas Fossil; MestaMachine; maggief; caww; LucyT; azishot; All

You’re welcome.

Another update:

Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and UAE act against Qatar for meddling in the internal affairs of Egypt!

“The language appeared to have been shorthand for Qatar’s funding of the Al-Jazeera news network and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Saudi analyst Anwar Edshki said the joint statement is a warning to Qatar to stop inciting violence by Islamists in Egypt.

“It is Qatar’s right to support the Muslim Brotherhood, but not its right to threaten security in Egypt and incite the (people on the) street,” said Edshki, who chairs the Middle East Center for Strategic and Legal Studies in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia.”

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/world/Saudi+Bahrain+recall+ambassadors+from+Qatar+over+alleged/9581032/story.html


5,234 posted on 03/05/2014 12:44:42 PM PST by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Appreciate the updates, melancholy. This has all but been forgotten by the media here.

Code Pink, again. These nutcases turn up in unexpected places.


5,235 posted on 03/05/2014 3:23:44 PM PST by azishot
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To: azishot

They bragged about their intentions on sites here. The word got to the Egyptian authorities and were waiting for them in the airport.

They got nailed.

Media? Crickets.


5,236 posted on 03/05/2014 4:01:56 PM PST by melancholy
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http://www.emannabih.com/the-united-nations-violators-of-human-rights-council-condemned-egypts-war-on-terrorism/


5,237 posted on 03/16/2014 11:22:56 AM PDT by melancholy
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http://www.emannabih.com/the-united-nations-violators-of-human-rights-council-condemned-egypts-war-on-terrorism/


5,238 posted on 03/16/2014 11:22:56 AM PDT by melancholy
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Time for an update on the situation in Egypt. Our 0c0mmie regime and its lapdog media are undermining el-Sisi and his expected win in next month election. They're still dreaming of the Moslem Brotherhood in power. Ain't gonna happen, bastards!

First, our lousy communist MSM articles about Egypt.

Read the language in the two NY SLIMES' articles below and you'll come to the conclusion it's nothing but a hit piece on el-Sisi and "his military government = a coup!"

This lousy Kirkpatrick of the NY SLIMES is an Islamist lover and most likely a communist faggot, too! Nowadays, it helps to be all that in order to stay on the "good" side of the white hive and its nonentity resident, the leader of the FLEE world who considers his good side to be his backside as he leads from HIS behind.

The language is to cast a "military dictatorship" light on el-Sisi. This IS what 0h0m0 should be DOING; wiping out the Moslem Brotherhood (MB) of the face of the earth. There is/will be no al-Qaeda or any other Islamist terrorist organization WITHOUT the MB.

And YES, 33 million Egyptians took to the streets on June 30, 2013 to demand the very strong and popular el-Sisi to rule and rid Egypt of the MB/Wahhabi Islamist plague.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/world/middleeast/ex-general-vows-to-end-brotherhood-if-elected.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/world/middleeast/us-sought-delay-of-morsis-ouster-egyptian-leader-says.html?emc=edit_tnt_20140506&nlid=68602855&tntemail0=y&_r=0

Second, our REAL MEDIA reporting on Americans who spent time in Egypt to find out what segments of society think and want. They were wondering about the gubmit 180° difference in policy between Egypt and the Ukraine. Here's an excerpt:

"EGYPT'S COUNTERTERRORISM WAR UNDERMINED BY US INSISTENCE ON MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD"

"On a recent trip to Egypt with a delegation of national security experts and journalists we had the opportunity to meet with senior-level Egyptian security officials, as well as several members of the country’s various religious and civil society movements. The message being disseminated in the Western press about Egypt is contrary to the reality on the ground.

A recent Los Angeles Times article repeats the accusation that Egypt’s response to terrorism is in fact the reason Egypt is in such trouble. This narrative has become entrenched in some circles of the US foreign policy establishment. To quote directly from the article, “…some U.S. officials warn that the Egyptian actions may alienate civilians and spur anti-American sentiment.”

The inference is that the al-Qaeda-affiliated political movement known as the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), ousted from government, continues to be the most important “civilian” political entity in the Arab world’s most populous nation and that the MB is a legitimate political actor. This is despite the Brotherhood being removed as a result of what may have been the largest popular democratic revolt in history, with tens of millions of anti-Brotherhood protesters flooding the streets in the summer of 2013 in rejection of the Brotherhood’s theocratic regime."

~~~Snip~~~

"The only solution for the Muslim Brotherhood is a complete dismantling of the organization. Period. Instead America has adopted a policy of apology and appeasement, placating the terrorists, seeing them as the victims. This is all based on the altogether false narrative that the Brotherhood is a democratic and peaceful organization.

America has been on a trajectory of alienating our allies and emboldening our enemies while at the same time weakening our military. This is a very dangerous path, and our lack of attention to the reality in the Middle East is not going to serve us well in the future."

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/05/04/Egypt-Counterterrorism-Efforts-Undermined-by-US-Insistence-on-Muslim-Brotherhood#comments

Scroll down for some interesting comments at link.

5,239 posted on 05/11/2014 12:01:23 PM PDT by melancholy
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Time for another update on Egypt-USA relations.

I received this email without any URLs. It looks like our military is putting pressure on 0b0z0, our Islamist-in-Chief, to help Egypt finish the Islamist plague, at least in the Sinai.

It's worth noting that the House is stating what our Islamocommie administration and media are REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE; the truth!

Not bad at all: NDAA National Defense Authorization Act.

The House of Representatives passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) earlier today. It's important to notice the language regarding U.S.-Egypt relations.

This language comes on the heels of the Administration decision to deliver to Egypt 10 Apache helicopters that are critical to our efforts to combat terrorism in Sinai. As Egypt continues its transition to democracy, support from our allies is absolutely critical and we appreciate the strong stance the House has taken in this regard.

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United States Security Assistance to the Government of Egypt

The committee notes with concern the growing Al Qaeda presence and associated terrorist attacks in the Arab Republic of Egypt. Presently, at least six terrorist groups with links to Al Qaeda operate in Egypt, including the Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis and the al-Furqan Brigades. In recent months, terrorist attacks in Egypt claimed the lives of hundreds of Egyptians and over 350 soldiers and police officers.

Within the past 6 months, there have been over 280 attacks in the Sinai Peninsula. On January 24, 2014, Al Qaeda-linked terrorists conducted a series of coordinated attacks that killed 6 and injured over 100 people in Cairo.

Egypt is not only enduring the effects of terrorism from the Sinai Peninsula, it is also enduring the increasing flow of foreign fighters and military material from its western and southern borders with Libya and the Republic of the Sudan, respectively.

The committee understands that the Secretary of State, in accordance with section 7041 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2014 (Public Law 113-71), will certify to Congress that Egypt is taking steps to support a democratic transition and that the President has made the decision to deliver 10 Apache helicopters to support Egypt's counterterrorism operations in the Sinai Peninsula. Given the significant increase in terrorist activity, the close relationship that the Egyptian military has with the U.S. military, and the interim Government’s support of the peace treaty with the State of Israel, the committee supports the President's decision to provide the Apache aircraft to the Government of Egypt. The committee further believes that the United States should provide necessary security assistance to the Government of Egypt, specifically focused on areas of mutual security interest.

The committee remains concerned that if the United States does not engage through security assistance with the Government of Egypt and the Egyptian military, then other countries, such as the Russian Federation, may fill this gap, which would work at cross-purposes with vital U.S. national security interests.

The committee continues to closely observe Egypt’s transition towards a new democratic government structure and is encouraged by both the direction and progress that the interim Government has made in this realm. In January 2014, Egyptians participated in a referendum to approve a new constitution, which includes protections for individual freedoms, equal protection and rights for all Egyptians, government transparency and accountability, and improved civilian oversight of the Egyptian military. Additionally, the committee is encouraged that the presidential and parliamentary elections appear to be on track and likely to be completed by the summer of 2014, and urges the Government of Egypt to ensure that the elections are free, fair, and devoid of fraud. The committee is concerned by reports that there may have been human rights violations that have occurred in Egypt. The committee encourages the next President of Egypt to address the economic and political needs of the Egyptian people, including the protections for individual freedom and human rights reflected in the new Egyptian constitution.

5,240 posted on 05/24/2014 9:44:49 AM PDT by melancholy
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