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4th of July DUI checkpoint
Liveleak.com ^ | 07/05/2013 | Livelurked

Posted on 07/05/2013 3:32:51 PM PDT by DariusBane

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9e3_1373034153


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; 4thamendmentissues; checkpoints; donutwatch; govtabuse; policestate; rapeofliberty; tyranny
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To: DariusBane

Check points are foolish, the police are begging for a terrorist suicide driver.


41 posted on 07/05/2013 4:52:10 PM PDT by SilverMine (silver@mainetv.net)
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To: Borax Queen

The actions I described are unconstitutional and , in the case of Jackson, ms been ended. However, what generated them has not. Many smaller Southern cities, Jackson, Ms, Jackson, Tn, Helena and Pine Bluff Ak and increasingly Shreveport , La and Mobile, Al are becoming the resort of gangs of young black criminals. Drug dealing is their biggest source of revenue but their actions engenders a generally lawless and depraved environment. The root cause is the collapse of the black family in working class and lower economic class black areas. The real depravity of many of these people cannot be imagined if you don’t brush up against them from time to time.


42 posted on 07/05/2013 5:01:24 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: DariusBane
I know a guy who was picked up 6 times at DWI checkpoints, has served time for DWI, has admitted it's all true, and now we see him walking around town drunk, because he doesn't have a ride. He's says he can't and won't stop drinking. I'm kind of glad for these checkpoints, because each one he was caught at was at the entrance to the village where there were a lot of kids riding bikes, playing in their front yards, etc At one of the check points, the guy plowed into a police car, and about 100 yards up the same road it would have been a group of kids playing basketball under a street light instead of the police car.

The year my brother graduated from HS, they had a Sr skip day. Almost all of the kids went to a local beach. It got around the crowd that the police had set up checkpoints at various locations along the route home. Friends my brother had (8 of them, I'm glad he rode home with someone else) jammed themselves into a car and used back roads to evade the police. One mile from home, the guy driving crashed into a tree killing himself, his sister, two girls that were ejected from the car and critically injuring the rest. My father was one of the first firefighters on the scene. He couldn't identify four of my brothers friends, but knew the car. Later, they gave him the job of telling the parents their two kids, twins, a boy and a girl, were dead and the whole classes graduation ceremony basically became a funeral.

Seven miles from my house, in an area known for it's DWI checkpoint (that keeps catching drunk drivers because their stupidly drunk) night turned into day and a young mother was taking her little girl to daycare. As she waited to turn in, a drunk that had been trying to “sleep it off” in his car awoke, blood alcohol still double what was legal, pulled out from the bar, drove the 5 blocks it took to reach the women's car waiting to turn in, didn't even put his brakes on — rammed her car from behind instantly killing the four year old. My husband's first death as a new firefighter. He worked frantically to free the little girl as the mother screamed and cried for her daughter. When they got her out of all of the mangled steel, my husband realized the little girl was our little girl's age, same brown hair, same Disney backpack. He almost lost it. But held it together to try and revive the little girl, but she was already dead. He came home not being able to get that sight and the screaming sobs of the mother out of his head. And then the drunk guy, sitting on the curb, “Can I leave now?” It took almost every police officer, firefighter, and onlooker all of their strength to not smash that guy in the face.

These are only a few examples. I can't say what would have happened if the drunk drivers that were caught at the checkpoints had made it through. I only know what happened to many that evaded the checkpoints and the outcomes were tragic. So when, at least where I live, many drunks are stopped at checkpoints, I'm glad.

43 posted on 07/05/2013 5:04:18 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: DariusBane

It’s amazing.... It’s a DUI checkpoint and they never even raised the issue of whether or not he actually had had any alcohol!


44 posted on 07/05/2013 5:08:09 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: MacMattico

Government has contributed to drunk driving by a series of magnitudes, by aiding and abetting lawless open borders...

Tens of thousands Illegal aliens have left a landscape of broken and dead American victims in their path...and continue to do so.

Thank you government.


45 posted on 07/05/2013 5:13:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DariusBane

His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.

The fake hit with the dogs was the worst part. That should be investigated.


46 posted on 07/05/2013 5:15:31 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: MacMattico
Nice mini-novel. You should entitle it "The Utter Failure of Checkpoints."

Both examples you posit show how checkpoints didn't do a thing to prevent death or injury from via drivers. In fact, regarding your first example, one could argue that the checkpoint indirectly caused the accident.

47 posted on 07/05/2013 5:15:38 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: bluecat6

“His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.”

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, right?

Wow...


48 posted on 07/05/2013 5:19:28 PM PDT by Backstop73 (Always reading, seldom posting.)
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To: AAABEST

Did you read the whole thing? Many hundreds, perhaps thousands over the years have been stopped at checkpoints. I pointed to the carnage of just two that got through.


49 posted on 07/05/2013 5:20:11 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: AAABEST
Let's hear your story on how a police car parked on the side of the road caused a drunk to hit it.
50 posted on 07/05/2013 5:24:40 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: dragnet2

I agree with that. But we’ve got a bunch of blinding drunk Americans that drive and kill people, to.


51 posted on 07/05/2013 5:30:11 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: DariusBane; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...



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52 posted on 07/05/2013 5:32:14 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: MacMattico
So it took 43 replies for the "If we could save just one life, giving up our rights will be worth it" argument.

I guess I can take solace in the fact that the previous 42 replies were more or less condemning roadblocks and supporting our constitutional rights.

I have police officers in my family and have discussed roadblocks and traffic stops with them in the past. By and large they detest the practice of roadblocks and speed traps and do not feel they contribute to the safety of the public at all. However, they are directed to carry them out through orders of their superiors - who get their orders from the politicians who are looking after themselves.

They state that they can identify and stop drunk drivers just by being out on patrol as there are dead giveaways to drunk drivers that all of us have seen. People who can't keep in their own lane, drive at night with the headlights off, drive too slow, etc.

Once you throw up roadblocks, the not so good cops get a power trip out of it and anybody who gives them any lip, asserts their constitutional rights (as the young man in this video tried to do), or otherwise comes across as a "smart ass" is immediately subject to harassment and intimidation.

So in the end, roadblocks are not about catching drunk drivers at all but about beating the citizens into submission and forcing them to forfeit their constitutional rights in the name of "safety."

Those who are willing to give up their rights in exchange for safety deserve neither.

53 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: DariusBane

I am against roadblocks. Imho, they are unconstitutional.


54 posted on 07/05/2013 5:36:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DariusBane

Question for the forum. How about requiring all prospective members of the Bar spend two, maybe four, years on the beat before being allowed to take the Bar exam?


55 posted on 07/05/2013 5:47:14 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: eastforker

A couple years back we were in El Paso for my niece’s wedding. There were checkpoints setup on the streets each night I was there, and at different places. I suspect it was for the illegals, but not so sure. We were waved through each time.


56 posted on 07/05/2013 6:00:58 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SamAdams76

No, not “if it would save just one life”.

Because it has saved many, many more. And sitting at a computer playing arm chair quarterback does not change facts.

I’ve heard people say “Damn I can’t drive home right now there might be a checkpoint and I’ve been drinking.” They don’t stumble around the bar saying I can’t leave because I’m hammered and might kill someone, no, they’re more afraid of the checkpoint because they’re drunk. Good. I don’t want them on the streets. “But I’m not like everyone else I drive fine when I’m drunk.” You hear that one a lot, to. Or “I’m not drunk, but the cops will harass me if I leave.” after you’ve seen them down 5 shots of Wild Turkey and two Pitchers of beer.


57 posted on 07/05/2013 6:04:40 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: GraceG

Bump! Is that nobama’s son in the lower right?


58 posted on 07/05/2013 6:11:03 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: MacMattico

Now you are just making stuff up.

So you want us to believe that these folks are completely hammered, but they have the common sense and wherewithal to worry that there “might be a checkpoint”? And you heard this where?

The BS meter has just pegged.


59 posted on 07/05/2013 6:15:42 PM PDT by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: MacMattico
Well you could save a lot more lives by banning automobiles altogether, wouldn't you? Why not make that argument? Around 30,000 lives are lost each year in automobile accidents in the U.S. alone (that's 15 9/11s!). Same argument could be made for banning fast food, mountain climbing, skydiving, etc., etc. Why not ban every dangerous activity?

This is the slippery slope you are taking us down when you decide that giving up freedoms is worth it in order to save lives.

60 posted on 07/05/2013 6:17:08 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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