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Another ATF weapon tied to a killing in Mexico (Jalisco, used to kill a Mexican police chief)
Star Tribune ^ | 7/5/13 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 07/05/2013 8:24:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Justice Department records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.

Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.

Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons — rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region.

A semiautomatic WASR rifle, the firearm that killed the chief, was traced back to the Lone Wolf Trading Co., a gun store in Glendale, Ariz. The notation on the Department of Justice trace records said the WASR was used in a “HOMICIDE - WILLFUL - KILL -PUB OFF -GUN” -ATF code for “Homicide, Willful Killing of a Public Official, Gun.”

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; hsi; jaimezapata; jalisco; killing; mexico; murdergate; obama; secondamendment; terry; wod; wot; zapata

1 posted on 07/05/2013 8:24:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Imagine the consequences if the Mexicans gave guns being used to murder Obama appointees.


2 posted on 07/05/2013 8:25:47 PM PDT by Shadow44
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The ATF declined to discuss the matter; officials said they are still compiling an inventory of the lost firearms for a complete account of the Fast and Furious operation.

Instead of being tracked, almost all the guns were lost as they flooded across the border into Mexico. In all, about 211 people were killed or wounded by the ATF weapons in Mexico, according to Mexican authorities. And on this side of the border, a Fast and Furious weapon was found at the Arizona scene where U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was slain in 2010.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 8:26:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: NormsRevenge

DEA ATF FBI ...Doing the jobs law abiding Americans won’t do...


4 posted on 07/05/2013 8:27:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: NormsRevenge; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...
The day is gonna come...


5 posted on 07/05/2013 8:28:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: NormsRevenge


6 posted on 07/05/2013 8:29:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

BS within the first four words. Nothing was “lost”.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 8:36:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NormsRevenge
How high powered?

Beyond .308?

8 posted on 07/05/2013 8:38:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NormsRevenge
"all the guns were lost"

The BATFE is LOST! We need to defund.

9 posted on 07/05/2013 8:39:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NormsRevenge

Comrade Zero subscribes to Stalin’s theory regarding eggs and omelettes.


10 posted on 07/05/2013 8:44:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: NormsRevenge

sounds like ATF violated the neutrality act and really started a war with Mexico.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 8:49:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: NormsRevenge
Department of Justice trace records said the WASR was used in a “HOMICIDE - WILLFUL - KILL -PUB OFF -GUN” -ATF code for “Homicide, Willful Killing of a Public Official, Gun.”

....and here's two more for the record....


12 posted on 07/05/2013 9:03:52 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: NormsRevenge

Holder and 0bama should be delivered to the Mexican authorities.


13 posted on 07/05/2013 9:14:44 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Paladin2

WASR. Most likely 7.62x39; not particularly powerful as rifle cartridges go.


14 posted on 07/05/2013 9:16:38 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Trod Upon

My thinking is the the MSM/LSM are retards who don’t recognize that (statistically at least) high powered rifles begin at or around .50 BMG.


15 posted on 07/05/2013 9:19:00 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NormsRevenge

Everyone reading this should send copies to everyone they know and every TV station, radio station and every forum that you visit.....get the word out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:07 PM PDT by Stayfree (If it is left, then it can't be right!)
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To: NormsRevenge
FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault.

Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

The federal government will still not reveal if one of the two WASR-10 AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles located near the scene — provided to the Sinaloa cartel via Operation Fast and Furious — was the weapon that put a bullet through Brian Terry’s heart. The existence of a third recovered gun, an SKS carbine, has been disputed by the FBI despite the fact it had been talked about openly in the beginning of the investigation among federal agents.

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


17 posted on 07/05/2013 10:08:27 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: All
Ice Agent Jaime Zapata Murdered While Investigating Fast and Furious Weapons

ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, were ambushed at a fake roadblock in Mexico. Were they set up? If so by whom?

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While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

“I have no information to that effect, no. I don’t know one way or the other,” she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.

Armored SUV could not protect U.S. agents in Mexico

U.S. investigators recovered one of the military-style semi-automatic weapons used in the attack that killed Zapata.

The gun came from Texas.

Ballistic testing of spent shell casings and the raising of an obliterated serial number revealed the weapon was a popular Romanian-made AK-47 knockoff purchased at J&J’s Pawn Shop in Beaumont, smuggled south to the Zetas by a methamphetamine trafficker named Manuel Gomez Barba, a U.S. citizen.

ICE agent's family files wrongful death claim against Justice Dept.


18 posted on 07/05/2013 10:10:07 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Another reporter describing the AK/WASR 7.62x39 as "high-powered rifle". And the weapon wasn't "lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy". It was provided to the Sinaloa Cartel by the Obama administration.

The other dirty little lie was that the ATF facilitated the purchase of these weapons and they were all then taken into México. The Cartel has assets they need to protect in the US too. A lot of those weapons never made it across the border.

19 posted on 07/05/2013 11:55:13 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I think Lone Wolf is the guy Holder tried to throw under the bus but he knew enough to bug meetings with the ATF in his own store. He has more balls than the speaker of the house.

When will Boehner grow a pair? This should be first page, top of the morning everyday. Nothing moves until we get answers.

20 posted on 07/06/2013 12:43:00 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: NormsRevenge

More blood on Obastard’s and Witholder’s hands.

What difference does it make?


21 posted on 07/06/2013 12:56:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Why won't this just go away? Can't the MSM cover up anything right anymore?
Get back to me asap. BHO.
22 posted on 07/06/2013 1:41:16 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Trod Upon

Exactly! They are responsible for the murders of many Mexicans. Mexico should extradite both Holder and B-HO for trial.


23 posted on 07/06/2013 5:21:42 AM PDT by abclily
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, at least he didn’t have his head cut off, which seems to be the new NORMAL in Mexico.


24 posted on 07/06/2013 5:23:55 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: Vendome

You forgot the Just Us Dept.


25 posted on 07/06/2013 6:10:32 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I can only say my ABC’s up to “I”...

Product of Public Skrewel’s


26 posted on 07/06/2013 11:44:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Oh, okay, my friend. Sorry about the public skrewels. ;-P


27 posted on 07/06/2013 7:24:24 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

LOL


28 posted on 07/06/2013 8:02:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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