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Ice-T: Gun Rights Are Civil Rights
breitbart.com ^ | 5 July, 2013 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 07/06/2013 10:47:15 AM PDT by marktwain

Rapper Ice-T has narrated a documentary that frames the gun control argument in language the left has long avoided--gun rights are civil rights.

In other words, they are rights inherent to American citizens. Or as the HHS.gov website puts it: "Civil rights are personal rights guaranteed and protected by the U.S. Constitution."

Therefore, just as rights to speak freely, to vote, and to practice one's religion are civil rights, so too are the rights embodied in the 2nd Amendment. This is the central point of the documentary, Assaulted: Civil Rights Under Fire.

The documentary accomplishes this by showing that the right to keep and bear arms was hedged in by our Founding Fathers as a right that existed long before American government did. As such, it is a right the government can neither give nor take away--a right that "shall not be infringed." It is sacrosanct, like other civil rights.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaulted; banglist; constitution; guncontrol; icet; lawandordersvu; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; youwillnotdisarmus
Review of Assaulted:Civil Rights Under Fire
1 posted on 07/06/2013 10:47:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Ich bin ein Ice-Tea’er...!


2 posted on 07/06/2013 10:52:51 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: marktwain

NO!

This is RAT POISON.

It sounds good but is a LIE that must be rejected. And HARSHLY, lest it undermine and END all of our rights.

NONE of the rights in the Constitution are CIVIL rights.

Civil Rights are those granted BY a Civil Government and can be taken away BY that same government who granted them.

These are NATURAL RIGHTS.

A gift from God.

Unalienable.

We must reject the term Civil Rights and demand that they are called what they are lest we raise an ignorant generation bereft of them.

NATURAL RIGHTS !!


3 posted on 07/06/2013 11:01:23 AM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: marktwain

Is this the new face of the tea party?


4 posted on 07/06/2013 11:01:54 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Waywardson

“NONE of the rights in the Constitution are CIVIL rights.”

If you are saying that the right to vote and the right to a jury trial are natural rights and a gift from God, please provide something to support what you say.


5 posted on 07/06/2013 11:08:34 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Waywardson

sour grapes,,,


6 posted on 07/06/2013 11:23:03 AM PDT by Big Red Badger ("don't hurt me , G 'man!")
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To: marktwain
I remember when Charlton Heston took Time-Warner to task over Ice-T's infamous Cop Killer rap and other garbage he did back then. Looks like he's come a long way since then. Hate to use a progressive/leftist term but Ice-T has "grown". And it seemed very weird that he of all people would play an NYPD detective, but gotta give credit where it's due, he's damn good at it. Interesting how he's sounds so much like Charlton Heston on this issue. But then again Mr. Heston was a Civil Rights activist himself so they may have quite a bit in common.
7 posted on 07/06/2013 11:24:03 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: marktwain

8 posted on 07/06/2013 11:24:09 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: marktwain
Ice-T on gun control
9 posted on 07/06/2013 11:52:53 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: KrisKrinkle

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. In America WE are Caesar.


10 posted on 07/06/2013 11:55:59 AM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: Big Red Badger

POISON grapes.


11 posted on 07/06/2013 11:56:24 AM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: marktwain

Did Mr. T vote for the foreign born communist Kenyan?


12 posted on 07/06/2013 11:56:29 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.


13 posted on 07/06/2013 12:04:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
...the right to a jury trial are natural rights and a gift from God, please provide something to support what you say.

Without stretching, the right to a jury trial can conceivably be extended from the Commandment "Thou shalt not bear false witness" as juries are specifically tasked with the determination of the truthfulness of testimony, as well as the other powers of the jury.

14 posted on 07/06/2013 12:12:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Waywardson; All

Good point; the 2nd amendment is a stand alone...we don’t need no gubmint to protect it....

Now, to the issue of Ice T doing this. Is he the guy who sang the “cop killer” song in the 1990s? Has he changed? I know he has done some acting....


15 posted on 07/06/2013 12:32:42 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: gaijin
Malcolm Little ("X") also addresses the Second Amendment starting at 2:35 in the clip.
16 posted on 07/06/2013 1:42:55 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He has. And I commend him for it. But, I urge all Patriots to Stand WITH him and rebuke the language and educate everyone that these rights are not CIVIL but Natural and Unalienable.


17 posted on 07/06/2013 1:46:29 PM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Except that trial by jury of peers, the assumption of innocence before guilt, the right to confront your accuser, the right to an unbiased judge, and the right to an advocate all originated with the pagan warrior tribes fighting Rome.

Basically warrior tribe law. Warriors are equal to one another, and leaders are leaders only because warriors choose to follow them, for as long as they choose to do so.

This was the law that migrated to Britain and became Common Law. Importantly, Christianity grew up part and parcel to both Common Law and Roman Law. It took much longer for Christianity to get along with Scandinavian (Viking) law.

The idea of Natural Law evolved possibly as late as the 5th Century with Augustine of Hippo, though parts of it existed back to Plato and Aristotle. Thomas Aquinas in the 12th Century asserted that Natural Law is a subset that man can grasp of Eternal Law, and from that point it was linked with “God given rights”.


18 posted on 07/06/2013 1:58:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Impala64ssa

I haven’t seen where he has repudiated any of his “Kill Whitey” views. Like will smith and jamie fox he’s perfectly willing to take the White man’s gold only to stab him in the back first chance.


19 posted on 07/06/2013 3:10:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Except that trial by jury of peers, the assumption of innocence before guilt, the right to confront your accuser, the right to an unbiased judge, and the right to an advocate all originated with the pagan warrior tribes fighting Rome.

And the Commandments from the Old Testament predate the Roman Empire by how many thousand years?

God commands that a person has a right to the truth and that right starts popping up in several different societies that humans have formed, therefore it does NOT come from God?

20 posted on 07/06/2013 6:56:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of gun control laws throughout history have been to disarm minority groups, allowing them to be massacred.

Mark

21 posted on 07/06/2013 7:40:33 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Impala64ssa
Hate to use a progressive/leftist term but Ice-T has "grown".

I wouldn't bet on it... I'm willing to bet that he's the same hard core leftist. But at the same time, remember that many in the "black power" movement, like Malcom X were all for gun ownership.

Just because he supports this one right doesn't mean he's changed.

Mark

22 posted on 07/06/2013 7:44:36 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Vince Ferrer; TigersEye

Thanks for the link.

Interesting...plainly and unapologetically put: “It’s our last defense against tyranny. It’s not about hunting.”

Lol, and there’s no way that hapless interviewer can counter it.


23 posted on 07/06/2013 8:04:30 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“God commands that a person has a right to the truth...”

Actually, I’m not familiar with that particular edict, except for the commandment to not bear false witness.

But it is a huge step from that to the other rights I mentioned. A lot of it goes to the relationship of the parties involved. That is, of Heaven and the individual, of individuals to other individuals, and of individuals in contention with each other whose dispute is mediated by a judge.

Biblical law in its origins was very harsh, at the time of Moses, it was much like the later code of Hammurabi, and much later, Sharia law. Eye gouging, amputation, execution for many crimes, etc. Talmudic jurisprudence dispensed with much of the wanton cruelty over the years, but in essence it remained a minor Asiatic system of law.

By the time of the Romans, the Hebrews were a tiny, unimportant realm in a corner of the great empire, intellectually of no consequence to it. And it was at this time that Roman law, and the law of the pagan tribes of Gaul came into being.

Legal systems were pretty much established by the time Christianity began to dominate the western world.


24 posted on 07/07/2013 6:35:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: re_nortex

The last part of that speech is interesting.

“Don’t blame the cracker for the injustice to the negro, blame the US government for those injustices.”


25 posted on 07/07/2013 6:53:37 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: cyn

I don’t think I could discuss gun control with a Brit without being insulting. :-)


26 posted on 07/07/2013 9:22:40 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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