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Are We Paranoid Enough Yet? FEMA’s Russia ‘Protocols’ Raise Serious Questions
The Other McCain ^ | July 6, 2013 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 07/06/2013 6:49:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Oct. 8, 2012: Russia’s EMERCOM Minister Vladimir Puchkov (left) and U.S. Deputy Administrator for National Preparedness and Protection, Timothy Manning, sign the protocol of a bilateral meeting in Vladivostok, Russia.

Have FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security signed a deal that would permit as many as 15,000 Russian troops to be deployed in the United States to deal with an unspecified emergency?

This was not a question that I expected to be researching when I woke up today and decided to get back in the groove as Editor-in-Chief at ViralRead after the Fourth of July holiday. But then I checked the site stats and found that the top story and the top referrer were these items:

Obama’s DHS Requests 15,000 Russian Troops –Lisa Jennings, ViralRead

What’s With The 15,000 Russian Troops Requested By DHS? –The Lonely Conservative

Well, well — what’s up with that, indeed? The most obvious explanations would seem to be either:

• One of our writers has bought into a fringe conspiracy theory;
or
• It’s time to start stockpiling ammo and freeze-dried food, before the black helicopters show up to take us to FEMA camps.

This required me to do some research, because if either of these explanations is true, there’s a problem. The credibility of ViralRead could be jeopardized if there’s nothing to a story like this, but if there is something to the story, why isn’t it being covered by mainstream news organizations? And, after doing some research, I found out that this is exactly the problem: While I cannot say for sure you shouldn’t be stockpiling ammo, neither can I cite any official source on the content of these U.S.-Russia emergency agreements, and the regular media don’t seem to have paid any attention at all to these agreements.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; fema; illegal; impeach; infiltrated; israel; obama; russia; treason; waronterror
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Huh?
1 posted on 07/06/2013 6:49:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


2 posted on 07/06/2013 6:52:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sounds like a novel I wrote.


3 posted on 07/06/2013 6:52:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

How much are signed copies?


4 posted on 07/06/2013 6:54:45 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: bigheadfred

All that stuff is on my website.


5 posted on 07/06/2013 6:55:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Huh?”

Something about Janet Napolitano and 15,000 Russian troops.


6 posted on 07/06/2013 6:59:50 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was pointed out by a person I can’t recall the name of but his point was. “ This is totally stupid! How long would it take for all the conspiracy theory nuts to take these out if it were true?” He is very pro 2nd amendment and has a point.


7 posted on 07/06/2013 7:00:01 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: Travis McGee

Anybody seen Snowden lately?

IMHO he’s pining for the fjords.


8 posted on 07/06/2013 7:01:04 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

9 posted on 07/06/2013 7:06:33 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Black Agnes

I don’t think Norway wants him, either;)


10 posted on 07/06/2013 7:07:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

odinga is preparing for a Zimmerman acquittal.


11 posted on 07/06/2013 7:10:01 PM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Word of advice to the russkies: pack lots of body bags.


12 posted on 07/06/2013 7:13:39 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A friend asked if I’d heard anything about Russian troops on U.S. soil, so I checked around and this was all I could find:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/russiansecurity.asp


13 posted on 07/06/2013 7:16:02 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: batterycommander

“odinga is preparing for a Zimmerman acquittal.”

yup


14 posted on 07/06/2013 7:17:03 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: haroldeveryman

Savage was discussing this on Wednesday evening.


15 posted on 07/06/2013 7:26:26 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hope they will wear blue berets to we know who to shoot and place the red dot.


16 posted on 07/06/2013 7:27:04 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let the War Games begin. Obama has given up this country without firing a shot


17 posted on 07/06/2013 7:27:34 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: DJ Taylor; Travis McGee

From the hypertext link at snopes (announced)

Looks real - by the way - who is that guy on the slideshow at the bottom of the page signing this document for FEMA?

http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/

From another article >
The extra-constitutional “agreements”(that means illegal agreements) were inked late last month in Washington, D.C., at the fourth annual meeting of the illegally created “U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations.” (http://www.state.gov/p/eur/ci/rs/usrussiabilat/c37332.htm)

This extra-governmental organization, formed under the Obama administration, is one of almost two dozen similar “working groups” bringing together top U.S. and Russian officials. (http://www.state.gov/p/eur/ci/rs/usrussiabilat/c37181.htm)

It’s “Not An Invasion,” If We Think They Belong Here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3037861/posts

Foreign Boots on American Soil: Russia To Share Military “Security Experts” With United States During Mass Disaster Incidents and Emergencies
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3037279/posts


18 posted on 07/06/2013 7:30:37 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: DJ Taylor

Snopes isn’t the most reliable site, but they have this one essentially correct. EMERCOM are not combat troops, they are paramedics, firefighters, disaster responders, etc, and the agreement was just a cooperative training agreement, the likes of which have been going on for years. WND and other unscrupulous sites just decided to hype it because they know paranoid people will eat it up.


19 posted on 07/06/2013 7:32:51 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DownInFlames
Nah, they're going with these helmets:


20 posted on 07/06/2013 7:35:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Travis McGee

No S%^T!!!


21 posted on 07/06/2013 7:35:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: DJ Taylor

Snopes is an old leftist hippie couple in their California trailer. Bzzzzztttt!!


22 posted on 07/06/2013 7:36:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Travis McGee

How about a link to your website...


23 posted on 07/06/2013 7:37:51 PM PDT by GOPJ ((MSNBC?)... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: null and void

At this point nothing this admin does will shock me


24 posted on 07/06/2013 7:40:29 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: GOPJ

click on his screen name...


25 posted on 07/06/2013 7:43:37 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: All

Probably the emergency would be too many red states and not enough blue states.


26 posted on 07/06/2013 7:53:48 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: DJ Taylor

Snopes used by FReepers? Really? You mean the far leftist commie, bleeding heart, managed by liberal scum, Snopes?


27 posted on 07/06/2013 7:55:11 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bullcrap. EMERCOM is a Russian federalized firefighter and paramedic force. Not even a paramilitary. They don’t have guns but probably among the best in the world in their business. FEMA has to learn something from them.
Numerous nations including NATO members and Israel are happy to see EMERCOM “troops” for rescue and relief ops in case on earthquake, flood or fires.


28 posted on 07/06/2013 7:58:52 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: TLI

When I click on what appears to be boxes on the left side of his page I get this:

Not Found

The requested URL /index.htm was not found on this server.


29 posted on 07/06/2013 8:19:58 PM PDT by GOPJ ((MSNBC?)... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: Travis McGee
Sounds like a novel I wrote.

Next you'll be calling yourself prophetic, like Ayn Rand, who turned out eerily prophetic. Whoever thought that anything in real life would be evocative of "Atlas Shrugged"?

Reminds me, I have to get some more copies of your series - I gave mine away to a "communist" hackerspace in San Francisco (Noise bridge).

30 posted on 07/06/2013 8:35:28 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: cunning_fish

OK, but the timing of this is peculiar. In the past few days, Obama has turned his attention away from the Middle East, where he has where ever since Benghazi he has been siding with Islamic fundamentalists against Russia’s Syrian Ally, Assad. Now, all of a sudden, he turns his attention from that to concentrate on “Global Warming”?? Moreover, this has come at a time when the American public has lost all interest in global warming , due to the weak economy and bleak employment picture.


31 posted on 07/06/2013 8:35:34 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: haroldeveryman

>>>OK, but the timing of this is peculiar. In the past few days, Obama has turned his attention away from the Middle East, where he has where ever since Benghazi he has been siding with Islamic fundamentalists against Russia’s Syrian Ally, Assad. Now, all of a sudden, he turns his attention from that to concentrate on “Global Warming”?? Moreover, this has come at a time when the American public has lost all interest in global warming , due to the weak economy and bleak employment picture.<<<

IMO, it is overinflated and misinterpreted to make some nuts ballistic and start crackdown on Tea Party. “15000 Russian troops speaking perfect English wearing US uniform”. Just wait a bit to see some “right-wing” nut opening fire at national guard or FBI agent under the influence of this propaganda.


32 posted on 07/06/2013 8:48:54 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Travis McGee

Who, you predicted Khazak troops, not Russian!


33 posted on 07/06/2013 9:01:06 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring

Supposed to be “Whoa” instead of who.


34 posted on 07/06/2013 9:02:57 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a link I found. It talks about sharing “experts.”

http://en.mchs.ru/news/item/434203/


35 posted on 07/06/2013 9:06:29 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: null and void

I dont report people to the mods. If anyone refuses to add me to their list, I call my buddies in the NSA to send a black helicopter over to their place to take care of the problem. Capice?


36 posted on 07/06/2013 9:06:40 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: GOPJ

Check your FRmail.


37 posted on 07/06/2013 9:51:49 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: bobby.223

I know. It always amazes me, too, when I see FReepers using Snopes.


38 posted on 07/07/2013 12:05:36 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: cunning_fish
“15000 Russian troops speaking perfect English wearing US uniform

Where did you get THAT? I read 5 links and followed several 2 down, and didn't see this. Perhaps a link?

39 posted on 07/07/2013 1:17:18 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

>>>http://cleowaller.blogspot.ru/2013/03/red-dawn-obama-hires-russian-troops-for_18.html<<<

One of many like that.


40 posted on 07/07/2013 1:28:09 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Thanks.


41 posted on 07/07/2013 1:35:21 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: cunning_fish

Somehow, a picture of a very attractive Asian girl with Christian “Angel wings” flipping a “double bird” at the camera doesn’t quite satisfy the meat of my polite request.

I’ll ask again, nicely, please link to any source that could support the 15000 Russian troops that speak perfect English claim, if you could be so accommodating?


42 posted on 07/07/2013 1:44:39 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Please, look at that page carefully and scroll it down, Don.
I haven’t sent a link to flip a bird before you.

BTW, I don’t think that Russians are coming. I refer to it as an example of fearmongering hysteria about it.

You can find dozens of idiots online claiming that Russians are coming, someone is really encouraging them to believe that for their bad reasons.


43 posted on 07/07/2013 1:54:52 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Black Agnes

He gets an A for crypto and an F for escapology.


44 posted on 07/07/2013 5:10:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same story we read when clinton was in office. The writer forgot to add the 10 Chinese divisions hiding in the Texas sagebrush and the invisible FEMA camps being built in Idaho and Montana. Those camps will be manned by North Koreans who will float over in holiday cruise ships and land in Phoenix.


45 posted on 07/07/2013 5:15:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Yehuda

Thanks.


46 posted on 07/07/2013 11:40:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is a dangerous extremist.. Greenfield)
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To: cunning_fish
"...EMERCOM is a Russian federalized firefighter and paramedic force.

They won't be able to grow much beyond 15,000, 'cuz The Government documents foreigners' visas.

/s

47 posted on 07/07/2013 6:41:46 PM PDT by Does so (Progressives Don't Know the Meaning of INFRINGED...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
but if there is something to the story, why isn’t it being covered by mainstream news organizations?

Silly ViralRead guy, why would Obama's media friends want to report on an invitation by our President for 15,000 national-sovereignty-destroying Russian frenemy troops to come over here for the unspecified emergency?

Hopefully, FOX News will report on it a few days after everybody else finds out, as usual.

PING!

48 posted on 07/07/2013 7:38:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: haroldeveryman
Something about Janet Napolitano and 15,000 Russian troops.

I doubt that anything happened; she's not very attractive.

49 posted on 07/07/2013 7:41:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“she’s not very attractive”

Oh......
You mean like they were supposed to pay her?


50 posted on 07/07/2013 8:19:45 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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