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1 posted on 07/07/2013 4:46:39 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

Don’t you worry about a thing.

Boner will do the wrong thing.

AGAIN.

Doesn’t he always?


2 posted on 07/07/2013 4:51:39 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: onyx

If principled people could win elections, they would study the situation and do what they thought was best for us. We’ve got Boehner.


4 posted on 07/07/2013 5:04:56 AM PDT by grania
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To: onyx

Would prefer instead of cuts to see the bill doubled or quadrupled, and thus guarantee it going down in flames.


5 posted on 07/07/2013 5:29:43 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: onyx
Split it.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 5:29:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: onyx

What is good for the NATION means nothing.

What is good for the POLITICIAN’s career is paramount.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 6:06:08 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: onyx

Another large complicated bill in the hundreds of billion dollars range to buy votes for reelection by spending money that we do not have.
If each of these items are needed then they need to be separate bills. Instead the pols get to hide what they vote for from their constituents.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 6:14:16 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: onyx

$939 billion.

If you ever needed to know where this country went off the rails...


9 posted on 07/07/2013 6:16:17 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: onyx

Bills that essentially give taxpayer $$ to people to do nothing, artificially raise/depress prices, pay favors to ‘big farms’ (T. Turner, B. Springsteen, etc.)

Got an idea, since I don’t see WHERE Congress has the authority anyway, DON’T pass the damn bill. People start to charge and pay for the true cost of products. Let the market decide.


13 posted on 07/07/2013 6:48:13 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: onyx

The numbers, $800 billion in giveaways in a $939 billion misnamed “farm bill.” It’s clear that the bundling was intended to disguise the redistributionist purpose of the $800 billion. Split it up.


15 posted on 07/07/2013 6:55:04 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: onyx

Dozens of Republicans joined the Democrats to reject the bill in the vote a few weeks ago.

The Dems wanted more spending but the 62 Republicans said the bill was too fat.

A lot of conservative leaning “Tea Party” NO’s but one of them I noticed who voted YES was Steve King of Iowa.

Agricultural interests apparently have more say than any conservative convictions.

One NO vote came from freshman Congressman Keith Rothfus from western Pennsylvania. I supported him financially in 2010 and 2012.

It looks I made a good investment with that kind of vote.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 7:14:06 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: onyx

Monsanto needs their welfare check to make more GMO crap. Big Ag can’t live without the billions they get each yr from taxpayers


18 posted on 07/07/2013 7:57:44 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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The very best outcome would be to split the bill, then convert the food stamps part to a block grant to the states, with *incentives* for them to support their own agriculture by augmenting the food stamps with farm surpluses.

To explain this, America almost always has too much food, which is very stressful to our agriculture, because surplus can hurt farmers much worse than shortage. Using food stamps to primarily bleed off surplus won’t work, because people need a balanced diet. But they *can* be used to bleed of *some* of the surplus.

Say a state has a bumper crop of potatoes. Along with their food stamps, the state is given an incentive to buy up some of the surplus potato crop, to stabilize the price for farmers, then to give away the surplus as a bonus to the food stamp recipients. Hopefully with a piece of paper that tells them what they can do with potatoes.

Likewise, states can be encouraged to swap surplus products, say a surplus of potatoes in Idaho with a surplus of cheese in Wisconsin. Again, both surpluses going to their food stamp recipients, but helping both their potato farmers and cheese makers.

Ironically, a state surplus market would, by stabilizing markets, save many billions of dollars at the federal level in the other half of the agriculture bill. This is because much of the money in that bill is to stabilize markets; so if they are stable, it is unspent.


19 posted on 07/07/2013 8:18:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: onyx

532 groups want this monster? There’s no way that many groups are dirt farmers. Assuming we need a non-constitutional farm bill at all the rest of that krap needs to stand on its own someplace else. Way past time for the adults to take a hard look at this money hole.


20 posted on 07/07/2013 10:38:11 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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” The U.S. lost a WTO case with Brazil over cotton subsidies and is paying Brazilian cotton farmers $147 million a year in penalties until the program is changed. “

WTF? We are paying Brazilian cotton farmers 147 million?


21 posted on 07/07/2013 10:42:38 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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