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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 July 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 7 July 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/07/2013 5:14:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: TomGuy

Let’s not get carried away, Mr. Kuchinich the Socialist, reverted to form when talking about the big bad rich insurance companies


101 posted on 07/07/2013 7:35:28 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: All

You can tell the regime is in dire trouble. dnc dave packs the show/panel and the entire show with nothing but hardcore libs. The only one conservative and he cuts him off at the bottom of the hour!!These guys are running scared.


102 posted on 07/07/2013 7:35:59 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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Raul Labrador what part of obamcare actually works? ROTFLMAO!! NO follow up from dnc dave! He totally changes the topic.!!Just too good.!!
103 posted on 07/07/2013 7:41:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Mr. Shelby is a RINO. He switched from a Senate Democrat to Senate RINO some time in 1994, when Alabama was moving from Commy Dem to Republican


104 posted on 07/07/2013 7:41:36 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: All
Defining moment so far at mtp. dnc dave asks his lackey from chicago some black guy with a radio voice about border security--Labarador says we need border security first--dnc dave gives the answer to his lackey and the asks him the question?!! Labrador is destroying the entire panel single-handedly on border security,they are stymied.
105 posted on 07/07/2013 7:47:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: DanZ

And as a democrat he ran a particularly nasty campaign against a true hero, former POW Jeremiah Denton. I still haven’t forgiven him for that.


106 posted on 07/07/2013 7:48:22 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: rodguy911

I am watching this. The Martian guy (my husband always called him that...black guy, butt-sucker for the Dems....WAPO I think) says Obamacare will not be repealed.

I tend to agree.

The problem here, as I will explain to the regime thank me very much, is that oncit upon a time employers provided health insurance. It was cheap and it was a perk for employees, it worked for many years.

Then all this crap, illegals using our ER’s as doctor offices....health care is a HUGE cost of doing business. And businesses are not in business to provide health care.

What is needed is for a bipartisan panel to meet and come up with suggestions for making this country’s healthcare more available.

This problem is tied into the immigration problem.

It’s all going to come to a huge pussy head. The American people will soon be standing en masse like Egyptians when they learn what a mess their gubmint has wrought upon us.

Will the army fire upon us? Or will they be on our side?

Read my book.


107 posted on 07/07/2013 7:49:56 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: rodguy911

You can tell the regime talking points already. DNC Dave now excited about the MB not being in power he says they have to be let back in!! Their boy el barradie ain’t gonna be the morsi sub,they know he’s a plant as well.DNC dave he was democratically elected!

Poor DAve he’s all in for ozero. No matter what the situation. 100 people killed it will get worse unless the MB is brought back—obviously new DNC chatting point. No mention of military at all. They obviously hate what has happened. DNC Dave is worried about the process of democracy being thwarted—little late thee Dave!!dnc dave; democracy available for everyone but the MB!! Wow is he all in for the regime.Now it the pyramids in danger!!


Ha! The lamers are just twisting themselves into heretofore unknown pretzel shapes over this setback for Obobo in Egypt.


108 posted on 07/07/2013 7:51:04 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Happy Rain

I can’t speak for other states but here in SC, with the exception of RINO Graham and Dem Clyburn, our entire US congressional delegation is solid TEA Party and have voted that way since they were elected.
We seriously believe we can oust Linda, keep Tim Scott in DeMint’s seat and maybe even dump Clyburn...his district is heavily African American but our black folk tend to be a bit more conservative than most and they ain’t none to happy with Obama’s treatment of our state and everyone knows Clyburn is an Obama butt smoocher.


I get what you’re saying about SC. I’m even thinking of retiring to Myrtle myself even though I can’t play golf anymore. I hope our side holds tough there in any case.


109 posted on 07/07/2013 7:52:48 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: bray

Yet another brilliant and topical essay bray. We spent some time with relatives over the 4th and Egypt was discussed at length. I took the liberty of emailing your post this morning to the family for their continuing education.
Mahalo!


110 posted on 07/07/2013 7:54:19 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: Kahuna

Thanks Big K. I hope they are open to the message.


111 posted on 07/07/2013 8:02:15 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: rodguy911

Bob Bob, Bob,can you show me a viable path to re-establishing conservatism in America other than throwing out the rinos and the GOP-E from the Republican Party and literally taking it back? And don’t tell me a third party is the answer. That’s a sure pathway to losing the country permanently.


In any case, it seems to me there is a two-step process required. First, defeat the RINOs (via any means possible) and only THEN defeat the Demoviks.

Step One will likely require “losing the country.” But we’re certainly NOT going to keep the country if all we have to depend on are Republican establishment types. I wouldn’t lift a finger to help any of them because I really can barely tell them apart from the Demoviks.

The other thing here is: I question the “tea party” movement as a national movement of any impact. 2016 is wide open so who is the tea party candidate for the Republican presidential ticket?

And please don’t tell me we’re gonna have 4 or 5 candidates in Republican debate forums all over the nation starting in 2015, splitting our vote and thus ushering Jeb and the RINOs to the top of the heap by desultory pluralities mainly achieved in blue states unwinnable in November—!

In short, WHO is gonna “take back” the Republican party?


112 posted on 07/07/2013 8:03:01 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!

However, I AM DONE. Yes me, Alas Babylon!, loyal Republican, has had his fill. I will not pull the lever (actually, fill in the circle with a number 2 pencil) for a RINO again.


Not to belabor a hackneyed expression but THAT’S what I’m talking about.


113 posted on 07/07/2013 8:04:49 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Fishtalk; All
It's hard to tell the future of obamcare the Tax!

Did Justice Roberts term it a "tax" so it would be easier to get rid of? Or was he blinded by being blackmailed by the regime for buying his kids.

Sending them from Cork County, Ireland to Central America where he could easily facilitate their transfer here. Just by greasing the right palms and whammmo!! he has blue eyed kids from his wife's parents country,what a coincidence!

Interested conservatives would like to know which one influenced the now disgraced Judge. Or did he just reach up and grab any label any stretch of the imagination, bizzaro or whatever to legitimize taking over 1/6 of the economy so he could keep his kids? Great trade thanks a lot!

Time will tell.

We would need a conservative potus and control of both Houses of govt. to get rid of zero care. Best bet is defund it I would guess.

114 posted on 07/07/2013 8:06:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Diogenesis

WOW.
Today, I am in agreement with Juan Williams who
is the ONLY panelist remembers 911 and
does not to support al Qaeda/Ikhwan/MB.


Yeah. I usually only agree with him about the Ravens and God. But one of those tough decisions that come with real governance is understanding that aid to a basket case like Egypt is a net-plus for the US in order to maintain vital influence in the region most likely to launch the world into war. It’s a hateful reality but a reality all the same.


115 posted on 07/07/2013 8:08:31 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: bray

Funny how none of the shows are pointing out what a massive failure Egypt is to Obama. Seems like he had nothing to do with his crown jewel.


The media’s sycophantry for Obama knows no bounds. Eventually, the psychiatrists will have to create a new classification of disorder to explain any of it.


116 posted on 07/07/2013 8:10:55 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

Isn’t he still in Africa? Why doesn’t he just swing by Egypt and give one of his mesmerizing speeches and straighten things out?


117 posted on 07/07/2013 8:15:28 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: PaleoBob
If you want to get historical, ironically, SC, no doubt a conservative state actually gave us obama! During the dem primary zero and hillary were somewhat close. Hillary as I recall, ahead, and then the Chicago thugs accused bubba of being a racist. They used an obscure comment by bubba. I don't recall now and blew it up way beyond belief. With little time to defend himself hitlery lost the state. The rest fell in unison with the big mo given ozero.
Sad but true.
Probably the ultimate use of the race card eve and the regime has been doing it over and over ever since.

Here's just one of many links on this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/rocky-relationship-obama-clinton/story?id=17160420#.UdmFyG3uAcc

118 posted on 07/07/2013 8:16:37 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

The comment was about Obama being a waiter or something wasn’t it?

Didn’t he say.. at one time he’d have been waiting tables or getting my bags?


119 posted on 07/07/2013 8:18:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: PaleoBob
Its up to us Bob.

If we can't make it happen it won't.

We know the drills. Donate only to conservative candidates, get Palin and others to take down all the rinos and slowly but surely take it back. Its the only viable option I see. If I'm missing something let me know.

120 posted on 07/07/2013 8:20:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: don-o

Could Juan have a sombrero?


Lol. I’ll work on it.


121 posted on 07/07/2013 8:20:40 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: bray

Isn’t he still in Africa? Why doesn’t he just swing by Egypt and give one of his mesmerizing speeches and straighten things out?


Haha!

What a joke the guy is. Not even fit to teach 5th grade social studies much less run the world.


122 posted on 07/07/2013 8:22:20 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: DanZ

Well, yeah, I remember. ;-) And many a democrat in Alabama has switched over to the Republicans in my lifetime. When I was a boy EVERYONE was a democrat. Now, no one is, except Blacks. Since blacks make up about 26% of the population of Alabama, the democrats are now forever in the minority here.

Still, the old-time democrats were and are conservatives, first and foremost. That is why I’ve always supported their conversion.

When Shelby switched, I supported him, too, thinking he was simply being true to his conservative roots.

Now I’m not so sure.


123 posted on 07/07/2013 8:22:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ConservativeMan55

I wish I knew the comment. But as it turned out,as I recall, the coment was not racist. Just misconstrued and lied about.Quickly picked up by the DBM and never vetted.Its the best technique the regime employs.Has the bent axel written all over it.


124 posted on 07/07/2013 8:24:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/09/02/bill-clinton-reportedly-said-obama-would-have-been-carrying-our-bags-a-few-years-ago/


125 posted on 07/07/2013 8:25:27 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: rodguy911

If you want to get historical, ironically, SC, no doubt a conservative state actually gave us obama! During the dem primary zero and hillary were somewhat close. Hillary as I recall, ahead, and then the Chicago thugs accused bubba of being a racist. They used an obscure comment by bubba. I don’t recall now and blew it up way beyond belief. With little time to defend himself hitlery lost the state. The rest fell in unison with the big mo given ozero.
Sad but true.
Probably the ultimate use of the race card eve and the regime has been doing it over and over ever since.

Here’s just one of many links on this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/rocky-relationship-obama-clinton/story?id=17160420#.UdmFyG3uAc


Good call. The SC cadre of Demoviks did play a role, I remember it now that you mention it.


126 posted on 07/07/2013 8:26:35 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!
Listening to the Fox and CBS panels (And I prefer Major Garrett to Ole' Bob, by the way) there is too much settled science in the discussions.

1) Comprehensive Immigration Reform. I have never heard anybody explain what, other than we don't enforce them, is wrong with the current immigration laws that requires a comprehensive reform.

2) 94% of the small companies affected by the employer mandate already provide insurance to their employees, so there was no need to delay implementation of the employer mandate. Of course, that will be dramatically affected by the % of small businesses that do pay the penalty rather than continue the insurance programs, or reduce full-timers to part-timers, or who only hire 29-hour employees, but recognizing that would require more knowledge of business than a reporter can gain watching newspapers run their business model to prosperity.

127 posted on 07/07/2013 8:26:51 AM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: rodguy911

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-24-sc-bill-clinton_N.htm?hiddenMacValue=0&hiddenMacPrintValue=0

Found it above.
Evidently bubba claimed that hillary might lose the race since blacks in SC would vote for zero since he was black. About as dumb a comment as you can make but hardly racist. Just true.


128 posted on 07/07/2013 8:27:47 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Lighten up...that’s the key.


129 posted on 07/07/2013 8:28:53 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ok....so America wakes up.....

Then what?

Seriously...who or how is any of this get turned back?

As my grandmother always said...you can not turn back time or undo things....

So...seriously....America wakes up....

What are they supposed to do? Bitch, moan, wring their hands, stomp their feet?

Hell only 47% of adults have a full time job...what will they be able to do once they wake up?

53% don’t work full time, what will they do once they wake up?

Most people are slaves to their mortgages, interest on credit cards, college bills, car notes, taxes.....they have elected to put themselves in dire straits...they willingly trapped themselves by thir own means to the new regime...who can easily snag them into a government controlled bondage....

What is happening now has been in the works since the 1950s when people left their farms, abandoned common sense spending with credit cards, families were convinced huge college bills were a must, people left small family run businesses, more debt, people became convinced 2 cars were needed, mothers had to work, more debt, large homes that are worthless, people are trapped in dying cites and communities overrun with creeping crime...

Americans chasing material wealth set themselves up, they selected their bondage that the government is now wrestling over for final control.

Wake up...naw...Americans need to crash and burn back to hand to mouth reality to find the inner strength that drives the human spirit for greatness...or, do what our forefathers did, leave everything behind, find an emerging country, move, learn the language start all over again...

Worked before....


130 posted on 07/07/2013 8:29:29 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: All

It’s no wonder hillary turned lesbo! That’s enough to do it!!


131 posted on 07/07/2013 8:29:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Yeah I recall that one. But I don’t think that was the comment that caused them to lose SC. Its far worse than what he said however.


132 posted on 07/07/2013 8:34:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob

It seemed after that that the die was cast.Seems the DNC then mandated that zero be given the nod.They even gave him an entire states votes can’t recall which one it was.


133 posted on 07/07/2013 8:36:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911; bray

When Shelby switched, I supported him, too, thinking he was simply being true to his conservative roots.

Now I’m not so sure.


Isn’t there some sort of axiom here? The longer someone stays in a political party the more easily co-opted they are by the leadership—?? Power and privilege accumulates over time and the party knows how to dole it out and then threaten one’s grasp on it.

By this reckoning, Ted Cruz can’t really remain Ted Cruz without eventually leaving the Republicans. Look at Rubio and Rand Paul. It took them less than a term in office to flop like fish on the deck. Rubio is dead to me as a conservative and Paul is at best a borderliner. But they both have a big future in the Republican party.

Palin has no future in the party because she won’t do what many of the others have already done—sell a piece of herself for a bit of power and privilege.

I’m a de facto “third party person” only because the only national candidate I could fathom has no place in the other two parties.


134 posted on 07/07/2013 8:36:24 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: rodguy911

Always remember, never say never. Sure as heck it will come back to bite ya.

That being said, we need to keep explaining the difficulty in Jeb Bush actually winning. The country is still unsure we want another Bush in the White House. Too many bad memories to simply assume Jeb would be any better than his father or brother. The justified fear is a Jeb Bush candidacy would repeat the mistakes of Dole and McCain. Nor can I envision the Republican base supporting another, more liberal, candidate.


135 posted on 07/07/2013 8:37:40 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Would read much much better without the crass colloquialisms such as mooselimbs, mooselips and gummit.

History and current events are on the pieces side. Adding those distractions diminishes the pieces impact and casts a shadow over it’s veracity and therefore it’s conclusions.


136 posted on 07/07/2013 8:38:11 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Bernard

2) 94% of the small companies affected by the employer mandate already provide insurance to their employees, so there was no need to delay implementation of the employer mandate. Of course, that will be dramatically affected by the % of small businesses that do pay the penalty rather than continue the insurance programs, or reduce full-timers to part-timers, or who only hire 29-hour employees, but recognizing that would require more knowledge of business than a reporter can gain watching newspapers run their business model to prosperity.


And John Roberts ruled this was a “tax.” So, can the president simply end any or all taxes by decreeing they are “delayed” or some such—?? Isn’t Obamacare the law? BTW, whatever happened to the law?


137 posted on 07/07/2013 8:39:54 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

We live in frustrating times Bob.I still like Cruz and a Palin/Cruz ticket could win, IMHO.


138 posted on 07/07/2013 8:40:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I think you are more than right Morgan.Sadly,43 destroyed the Bush brand. He failed to defend himself or the party so many times he almost gave credence to all the lies the left/DBM were making up about him.


139 posted on 07/07/2013 8:44:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Meat the Press!!!
140 posted on 07/07/2013 8:48:49 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: PaleoBob
Whomever which communist lawyers designed obamcare and you can bet it was done over “years” not any time recently,it was designed to collapse the system Cloward Piven style. Through too much govt.spending in many areas however it was implemented.You can bet Soros had a big hand in all this.He desperately wants to destroy us and our way of life.
141 posted on 07/07/2013 8:50:21 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob

it is owellian.

your 20 gram ration of chocholate has been increased to 20 grams.

obama gave nothing.
what he is doing is buying campaign contributions.


142 posted on 07/07/2013 8:50:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Exactly Bob.Everything the regime does is political. Its all about winning the next election and framing the one after.They think they have 2016 all sewed up with hillary firmly entrenched and ready to sell books claiming she is a lesbo so they are putting all their eggs into stopping us in 2014. Trouble is everything they do turns to sh-t.
If we spent as much time on elections as they do we would come across so much better in the win columns.


143 posted on 07/07/2013 8:56:58 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob; rodguy911
In short, WHO is gonna “take back” the Republican party?

Many of the new 'tea party' Pubbies folded within weeks. Pubbies, in general, are expected to fold on most issues. It's their nature. It's what they do.

Many of them run to the right during the election, only to change direction and head left soon after they take their seats.

Two of the greatest disappointments of the last 2 years have been Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Marco Rubio. They can't push the leftist agenda fast enough any more. What happened to them? Who has the compromising pix? But, I could easily list a dozen more who have turned left.

My state has only 1 national office still held by a Democrat. [All 4 House seats and 1 Senate seat are now held by Republicans.] Just a few elections ago, most of those were held by Democrats. But, the Republicans now holding those seats tend to be in the 60-70% range in supporting conservative issues. And none of them have made headlines bucking the GOPelite or GOP leadership.

Many party members have been screaming for the 'change from within' since the 2002 election cycle. The GOPe still hold the power positions. The 'tea party' had a chance to make a major statement in January, but they folded and went along with the other Republicans to re-elect the same Speaker of the House.

Doing the same things, voting the same people back in, is not going to change the party. Recall the standard definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

[Again, I relinquish the soapbox.]
144 posted on 07/07/2013 8:59:50 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: maggief
“I think it’s very important to fix a broken system, to treat people with respect, and have confidence in our capacity to assimilate people,”

1) The "system" is only broken because you and our current DICKtator to more of a degree, refuse to enforce current laws - that is what is broken,

2)You now want American citizens to treat the invaders with respect?,

3) The invaders refuse to learn our language and assimilate. You have it ass backwards George.
145 posted on 07/07/2013 8:59:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I do believe a battle royale is coming. If the GOPe pushes TEA partiers and conservatives out THIS time, there will be massive abandonment of the Republican party.

I made a bet with my neighbor - who is praying for the GOP to retake the Senate - that the GOP is finished and will not even keep the House in 2014. The straw that will break the camel's back will be Comprehensive RAT Voting Act of 2013.
146 posted on 07/07/2013 9:02:10 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: rodguy911
Did Justice Roberts term it a "tax" so it would be easier to get rid of? Or was he blinded by being blackmailed by the regime for buying his kids.

Many think the latter.

If it was the former, Roberts' decision basically nullified the Supreme Court with his 'you elected them, now live with what they legislate' decision. That argument can now be applied to any legislative question brought to the SC. Roberts' convoluted ruling set a danger precedent.
147 posted on 07/07/2013 9:04:35 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: rodguy911
I still believe a plurality of the electorate consider themselves Conservatives. That being the case, it's not a matter of reestablishing Conservatism, but reestablishing Conservative representation. Under the control of the current “two party system” there's little chance of that. Add amnesty to the mix, and there's no chance.

Another party has a chance of being successful, if they're well financed and have the right spokesperson(s) to circumvent and combat the certain war from the establishment owned media.

It's a long-shot, but the only shot I see.

148 posted on 07/07/2013 9:05:10 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Diogenesis
They are admitting it is a “military coup”, then funding MUST be cut off by our DICKtator.

Law requires Obama administration to cut off Egyptian aid

Anyone on FR think Zero will follow this law?




149 posted on 07/07/2013 9:07:18 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I still think there are many of those old Blue dog, Reagan, Conservative, ‘Southern’ Democrats around.

If they and the conservative ‘right’ could ever drop the ‘old family political party’ mentality and join forces, they could create a viable political party.

The GOPe would lose so many that they could lose their viability. The Dems also could lose many (they aren’t all liberals and leftists and progressives). The GOPe and Leftist Dems would have to merge or the ‘conservative’ party could blow them away in national elections.

==

Otherwise, we are going to see the status quo and that status quo has moved substantially leftward since 2000.


150 posted on 07/07/2013 9:12:53 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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