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Quinn signs law to let 17-year-olds vote in primaries (Illinois)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 7/03/13 | Rick Pearson

Posted on 07/07/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by Libloather

Gov. Pat Quinn signed into law today a measure that would allow 17-year-olds to vote in party primary elections if they turn 18 before or on the date of that year’s general election.

The Democratic governor signed the bill at Adlai E. Stevenson High School in Lincolnshire, where civic faculty and students pushed the legislation. Quinn said Illinois joins at least 20 states that set younger age limit for primary voters, citing a national voting advocacy group.

Sponsoring Rep. Carol Sente, D-Vernon Hills, said in a statement that the measure was “only fair” since 18-year-olds “are already voting for candidates in the general election.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: carolsente; chicago; corruption; democrats; electionfraud; elections; illinois; patquinn; primaries; quinn; vernonhills; vote
And 16-year-olds are destined to become 17-year-olds.
1 posted on 07/07/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

What could go wrong?


2 posted on 07/07/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Libloather
Quinn. Must. Go.

Good Lord I hate this hell-hole of a state. I swear I'm dead and in purgatory for something I did while I was alive.... I can find no other rational reason for the crap that happens in this state.

3 posted on 07/07/2013 8:22:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Libloather

I don’t understand laws. How can one person in that capacity
make such a law that will effect the whole country because of the outcome of elections? Can’t something be done to squelch it?

I can see where 0bama might get away with making millions of illegals ‘citizens’ just for votes, but this guy deciding this is a bit much.


4 posted on 07/07/2013 8:24:57 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Libloather

This in a state where you’re lucky if the 17-year-olds can read.


5 posted on 07/07/2013 8:26:00 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Libloather

Vote fraud must be getting tougher for Illinois Dems.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 8:29:49 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Libloather

It was better when the age to vote was 21. Few US young people age 17-21 are interested in the ins and outs of politics, the economy or realize that wishes acted on sometimes have unfortunate consequences.

The young are impressionable consumers who think daddy will cover their debts, follow trends however silly, they are self-centered and only offer sympathy if it gains them status or rewards. Their education has omitted most of the history about what the constitution and freedom means. The military is about the only finishing school that offers them the necessary values and truths of America.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 8:30:01 AM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: Stosh

“This in a state where you’re lucky if the 17-year-olds can read”

Not a problem, all candidates with a “D” next to them will be pre-cast. Nothing more to be done than drop it in the Ballet Box, and an escort will be available for the ones so dumb they can’t find the box.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 8:30:10 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Libloather

Except of course for those 17 year olds who are home schooled.


9 posted on 07/07/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Libloather

So he wants to influence candidates that are up for primary eh? What could go wrong with bus loads of impressionable 17 year-olds being brought in to screw with the GOP.


10 posted on 07/07/2013 8:31:11 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Stosh
This in a state where you’re lucky if the 17-year-olds can read.

Not to worry. I'm sure the right people will instruct them when voting, "look for the 'D'; it means 'free'".

11 posted on 07/07/2013 8:31:38 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: RicocheT
Few US young people age 17-21 are interested in the ins and outs of politics, the economy or realize that wishes acted on sometimes have unfortunate consequences.

I didn't have much interest in voting till I was nearly 35.
12 posted on 07/07/2013 8:38:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Libloather

In Ohio 17 year olds who will be 18 by the next general election are allowed to vote for candidates only (not on issues). This makes sense, considering that they will be able to vote for the candidates who win the primary, so they should have a voice in choosing candidates in the primary.


13 posted on 07/07/2013 8:38:52 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Libloather

How will they prove they are 17? Photo ID? That can’t be fair. Disenfranchised voters and all.


14 posted on 07/07/2013 8:39:21 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

In Michigan you can register to vote in the primary at 17 but only if you’re going to be 18 by primary day.


15 posted on 07/07/2013 8:43:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Libloather
One of the reasons Democrats forever win. They are constantly taking advantage of the killer egalitarianism prejudices and adding voters among the soul sick, the stupid youth, felons, aliens etc. Soon the Republicans will not even need to show up for an election. Lord! The Republicans are stupid they played Democrats lite forgetting that the "the coalition" wanted Democratic heavy.

Look at the census breakdowns and tease out the 17 year olds and one will determine how many voters the Democrats added in Illinois.

16 posted on 07/07/2013 8:52:57 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Libloather
Statement: "Sponsoring Rep. Carol Sente, D-Vernon Hills, said in a statement that the measure was “only fair” since 18-year-olds “are already voting for candidates in the general election.”

Response: Why stop at 17. Are not three year olds already voting in elections?

17 posted on 07/07/2013 8:54:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Libloather
The Dems just hate free and fair elections by an informed electorate of legal citizens.

They are always angling to game the election system.

Perhaps is is occurring to older voters (say, 18 and up) that Democrat governance inevitably leads to economic pain and suffering. .

18 posted on 07/07/2013 8:59:16 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: cripplecreek
I didn't have much interest in voting till I was nearly 35.

At the age of 69, I've lost all interest in participating in the fraud we call "elections."

19 posted on 07/07/2013 9:01:04 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Libloather

This is about the only case where I believe a new Federal law should intervene. Voters must be age 21 with state-issued photo ID.


20 posted on 07/07/2013 9:31:25 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Libloather
Ohio has the same law. I don't know how it is handled if there are other issues on the ballot in addition to the primary votes.
21 posted on 07/07/2013 9:35:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Libloather

Soon after birth voter registration will come along with the birth certificate.


22 posted on 07/07/2013 9:38:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Libloather

They should let everyone vote at age 10. I know lots of democrat voters who are NOT smarter than a fifth grader.


23 posted on 07/07/2013 9:46:58 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
...a measure that would allow 17-year-olds to vote in party primary elections if they turn 18 before or on the date of that year’s general election... Adlai E. Stevenson High School in Lincolnshire... civic faculty and students pushed the legislation... at least 20 states that set younger age limit for primary voters, citing a national voting advocacy group.
That will give them some more exposure to each other, in case they have any scores to settle.


24 posted on 07/07/2013 10:13:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Libloather

They will be busing the 17 year olds from schools, I’d bet.


25 posted on 07/07/2013 10:13:51 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: usconservative

I swear I’m dead and in purgatory for something I did while I was alive

We all feel that way. The Democrats felt that way during the Bush years....lol. We all are screwed no matter what. The only good news is that we are next to have goodness hopefully in 2016.


26 posted on 07/07/2013 10:15:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: RicocheT
It was better when the age to vote was 21. Few US young people age 17-21 are interested in the ins and outs of politics, the economy or realize that wishes acted on sometimes have unfortunate consequences.
Not to mention, people under age 21 are inexperienced, gullible, and often enough, pretty dopey.


27 posted on 07/07/2013 10:16:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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But not a standard to be used for determining educational grade level.


28 posted on 07/07/2013 10:19:56 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Roccus
At the age of 69, I've lost all interest in participating in the fraud we call "elections."

I hear you, brother. Last year I cast my last ballot. They clearly outnumber us.

29 posted on 07/07/2013 10:41:52 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: usconservative
Good Lord I hate this hell-hole of a state. I swear I'm dead and in purgatory for something I did while I was alive.... I can find no other rational reason for the crap that happens in this state.

I hear ya brother! And to think I was stupid enough to move up here from the South back in the late 80s.

Believe me, I kick myself daily for that temporary insanity.

30 posted on 07/07/2013 10:45:25 AM PDT by Marathoner (Sarah Palin is our Esther, for such a time as this)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
How can one person in that capacity make such a law that will effect the whole country because of the outcome of elections?

A couple of years back, California was toying with the idea of allowing 14 year olds to vote.

31 posted on 07/07/2013 10:48:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Libloather

Get the state out of the political party primary business altogether. The taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for the internal affairs of political parties, and government most certainly shouldn’t be running them.


32 posted on 07/07/2013 10:51:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“This makes sense[....]”

Allowing a minor to vote in an official government election makes no sense at all, not even in a primary, when you note how the minor is not emancipated and has no legal authority to make contracts or be responsible for the person’s own acts and misdeeds. This amounts to the fundamentally illegal and unconstitutional granting of unemancipated authority with no responsibility.


33 posted on 07/07/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: RicocheT
It was better when the age to vote was 21...

It was better when only land and business owners (read as: stakeholders, creators of wealth, producers) voted. Today, the political machine has empowered a different class...the consumers... the uneducated... the entitled.

34 posted on 07/07/2013 11:31:34 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Libloather

Oh goody ... more uninformed voters.


35 posted on 07/07/2013 11:49:05 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Libloather

12 y.o.s allowed to vote if they will reach the age of majority before the end of the senator’s term.


36 posted on 07/07/2013 12:17:28 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Graybeard58

Why not tag them at birth? Oh, wait they don’t like those burdensome births!


37 posted on 07/07/2013 1:05:57 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Libloather

Liberals will always push changes like this. They pushed the drop from 21 to 18 under the guise of “if they can serve in Vietnam then they should be able to vote”, which was true. Then the turn around and do all the can to delay or loose the military ballots.

A few years ago some idiot, I believe a professor in California, was pushing to lower the voting age to 10 years old.

The less rational the electorate, the better for the liberal.


38 posted on 07/07/2013 1:20:51 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: dowcaet
Vote fraud must be getting tougher for Illinois Dems.

Not tougher... the Dems are just getting lazier and want to make it easier on themselves.

Either way, I'd guess it's NOT helpful in moving America to reverse its direction.

39 posted on 07/07/2013 1:28:11 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VerySadAmerican
They should let everyone vote at age 10. I know lots of democrat voters who are NOT smarter than a fifth grader.

Yes, but why double their numbers?

Maybe our pets should vote instead. They can't read, either, so what's the diff? And my cat is smarter than any 17 year old I ever saw - in the two youngest generations, anyway.

Oh. Dogs like to have masters and cats believe in entitlements. Maybe not.

40 posted on 07/07/2013 4:05:15 PM PDT by CatDancer (Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty. 2 Cor.3:17)
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To: Libloather

This makes sense. Virginia has done this for years. If you are going to vote in the general election, you aught to be able to pick the candidates you are going to vote for.


41 posted on 07/07/2013 4:49:29 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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