Skip to comments.Are Conspiracy Theories Sometimes True?
Posted on 07/07/2013 9:57:25 AM PDT by pinochet
Often, when a Freeper proposes an idea that seems too crazy to be true, we totally dismiss him, and describe him as one who wears tin foil hats. One year ago, nobody would have believed that the American government spies on everyone. If someone had suggested such a thing last year, he would have been dismissed as a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist.
What other theories have respectable American conservatives dismissed in the past, that may be true? I keep thinking back to Robert Welch of the John Birch Society of the 1960s, who suggested that there exists a communist conspiracy among elites in academia, to indoctrinate American youth in communist ideas. According to this theory, American communists realized that they could not take over the devoutly Bible-Believing American nation of the 1950s, with an armed revolt. America had too many Bible-Believers with guns, and they could not take over America with an army like they did in Russia in 1917. They also could not teach directly from the books of Marx, Engels, or Lenin. The American Commies are supposed to have developed a clever means of injecting communist ideas whenever they talked about American history or society.
According to this theory, college graduates would enter government institutions and implement communist ideas, without realizing that those ideas are communist. Mainstream conservatives such as William F. Buckley excommunicated Robert Welch from the "respectable" conservative movement, and dismissed him as a nut. When you think of Obama, Pelosi, Clinton, Schumer, Van Jones, Gore, Patty Murray, Ginsburg, and all those other leftists in public office, did they end up that way by accident? What about those college graduates doing the Occupy Wall Street stuff? Is that also a coincidence?
Were the Birchers wrong about everything?
If you teach those same ideas without reference to Marx, Engels and Lenin, nobody will call it communism. But, hey, who wants to be called a Tin Foil Hat nutter?
Of course some are real and virtually all both true and untrue alike have a kernel of truth in them.
However its also important to note that some are promoted by our foreign and domestic enemies as a means of damaging us.
If someone had described the Obama regime in detail during the GWB years, and told us that it would be upon us at the end of his term, that person would have been hooted off Free Republic with scorn and derision.
There was some crazy conspiracy a few years back. Something about a bunch of chaps in taverns plotting to overthrow the redcoats, some even tell it like they dressed up as injuns and threw a load of tea in the water.....
Of course conspiracies are sometimes true. One can never overthrow an entrenched power unless one starts planning in secret.
The document below is an exact copy of the original document that
Mr. John Nelson wrote on February 21, 1992 with the following exceptions:
DECLARATION OF CAUSE AND NECESSITY TO ABOLISH
DECLARATION OF SEPARATE AND EQUAL STATION
I have enclosed Senate Report No. 93-549, 93rd Congress, 1st Session (1973), “Summary Of Emergency Power Statutes”, consisting of 607 pages, which I believe you will find most interesting. The United States went “Bankrupt” in 1933 and was declared so by President Roosevelt by Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111 and by Executive Order 6260 on March 9, 1933 (See: Senate Report 93-549, pgs. 187 & 594), under the “Trading with The Enemy Act” (Sixty-Fifth Congress, Sess. I, Chs. 105, 106, October 5, 1917), and as codified at 12 U.S.C.A. 95a. On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank System, the Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of the United States Treasury for criminal acts. The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee, and has yet to be acted upon (See: Congressional Record, pp. 4055-4058). Congress confirmed the Bankruptcy on June 5, 1933, and impaired the obligations and considerations of contracts through the “Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard And Abrogate The Gold Clause, June 5, 1933”, (See: House Joint Resolution 192, 73rd Congress, 1st Session). The several States of the Union pledged the faith and credit thereof to the aid of the National Government, and formed numerous socialist committees, such as the “Council Of State Governments”, “Social Security Administration” etc., to purportedly deal with the economic “Emergency.” These Organizations operated under the “Declaration of INTERdependence” of January 22, 1937, and published some of their activities in “The Book of the States.” The 1937 edition of the Book of the States openly declared that the people engaged in such activities as the Farming/Husbandry Industry had been reduced to mere feudal “Tenants” on their Land. Book Of The States, 1937, pg. 155. This of course was compounded by such activities as price fixing wheat and grains 7 U.S.C.A. 1332, quota regulations 7 U.S.C.A. 1371, and livestock products 7 U.S.C.A. 1903, which have been consistently below the costs of production, interest on loans and inflation of the paper “Bills of Credit”, leaving the food producers and others in a state of peonage and involuntary servitude, constituting the taking of private property, for the benefit and use of others, without just compensation.
Finish the article here:
Gibbs’ Rules #35 and #39.
Well there were a few of us who were a little concerned with the patriot act....
“Are Conspiracy Theories Sometimes True?”
Are true accounts sometimes classified as “conspiracy theories,”... and by whom?
I have family members that remember the Birchers talking about just that. They also talked about how the FBI would take pictures of them after they came out of those meetings.
How soon we forget: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
About ten years ago, FR was up in arms over ECHELON. The spying capabilities of the US gov’t were widely known then. It was discussed that they were monitoring phone calls for ‘keywords’ such as bomb, assassinate, etc. Once the computer identified keywords, they’d pass the rest of the call on to a human for analysis.
For the last month, I’ve been rolling my eyes at the hysteria surrounding this NSA whistle-blower mess. This is all old news.
So why are we so shocked and shaken now? Why is this such a big deal? Is there any thinking person out there who could imagine a world with these technological capabilities that *wouldn’t* monitor everything? Are we really that naive?
And do any of us really believe that public outcry and constitutional court cases will actually shut this down?
All they’ll do (if they do anything) is publicly shut down the program, issue heartfelt statements of outrage, and then keep it going under another name/agency.
Big Brother is here.
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning
Author: Jonah Goldberg
When I was a kid around 1957 I watched the news and believed everything they said.
I can distinctly remember wanting to take my .22 single shot and join the romantic Castro in Cuba.
There was a crazy right wing group called the John Birch Society who claimed he was secretly a Communist and was being aided secretly by the Soviet Union. When I say secretly, they would give Castro aid but it would not be AK-47s, it would be weapons like they could have gotten from the Cuban military or civilians.
Was the John Birch society just lucky that they guessed what was going on?
Was I and millions more being mislead by the media?
Some libs I know were big fans of Alex Jones when he was Truthin on Bush/Cheney.
Now that Alex is Truthin on the B0 administration, they consider him a dangerous nutjob.
Sept. 11, 2011 - My personal tin foil hat post.
No one should have any reasonable expectation of privacy on the Information Superhighway. The Internet basically tracks and stores everything. Dont believe me? Google your response in this tread in 15 minutes (it will indexed). Pay attention to the advertisements that are presented to you. Google How to write a novel and writing school ads will show up in banners and Facebook. Get in trouble with the law and every text, search, or picture viewed for the last several years is available to law enforcement. The price of using the Internet is your privacy, you have none.
Its easy to manipulate the bulk of mankind. The media has been doing it for decades.
Joe McCarthy, the Paul Revere of his day, warned us of the communist conspiracy. Yet he was ultimately destroyed by the media, which had already been infiltrated.
How about Nikita Kruschev pounding his shoe on his desk at the UN, proclaiming “we will bury you”. Again it was poo pooed, with the media giving him cover.
Today the MSM is overrun with socialists and commies as are the vast majority of educational institutions. Folks we have only ourselves to blame, as the current socialist regime exerts its control with nary a whimper.
Oh, and you can bet be we are being monitored here at Free Republic, and I’m not talking about our mods or those DU trolls either. I wonder what special operation name Big Sis has watching conservatives?
It ain’t paranoia if they really are picking on you....
There has been a largely unprovoked but sustained attack on most of the world I once knew, and expected to continue to be available to my old age and coming generations.
But any rights we used to enjoy have been severely truncated, or ignored altogether, with an ever-encroaching demand that subservience is the “highest good”. Oh, it is coached, at first, in making things “safer”, or “better”, for the individual, but as each facet of personal decision-making is given up, there is no recourse when the subject that has already been decided FOR you, proves to be not at all in personal best interests.
To dare to challenge the “new normal” is to risk being incarcerated, heavily fined, or worse. The name of that option is called “civil disobedience”, but ultimately, it is the last weapon of the desperate and those for whom all hope has been dashed.
The dawn of the “urban guerrilla” warfare against what was once the government to whom you had sworn allegiance, only to find they had changed all the rules while you slept.
Time for a “Redeclaration of Independence”. Shouldn’t be too hard to update the language.
Were the Birchers wrong about anything?
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