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Snowden Interview: NSA ‘In Bed Together with the Germans’
Der Spiegel ^ | July 07, 2013 – 08:36 AM

Posted on 07/07/2013 8:03:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

In an interview to be published in this week’s issue of Spiegel, American intelligence agency whistleblower Edward Snowden criticizes the methods and power of the National Security Agency. Snowden said the NSA people are “in bed together with the Germans.” He added that the NSA's “Foreign Affairs Directorate” is responsible for partnerships with other countries. The partnerships are organized in a way that authorities in other countries can “insulate their political leaders from the backlash” in the event it becomes public “how grievously they're violating global privacy.” …

Spiegel reporting also indicates that cooperation between the NSA and Germany’s foreign intelligence service, the BND, is more intensive than previously known. NSA, for example, provides “analysis tools” for the BND’s signals monitoring of foreign data streams that travel through Germany. Among the BND’s focuses are the Middle East route through which data packets from crisis regions travel. In total, Spiegel reported that the BND pulls data from five different nodes that are then analyzed at the foreign intelligence service’s headquarters in Pullach near Munich. …

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bnd; edwardsnowden; eussr; fourthreich; nsa

1 posted on 07/07/2013 8:03:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So he’s alive?


2 posted on 07/07/2013 8:05:21 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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And, we’re supposed to believe that the German newspapers are not controlled by the puppet masters


3 posted on 07/07/2013 8:15:55 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Olog-hai

Is something like this even ‘unexpected’ ?


4 posted on 07/07/2013 8:16:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: phockthis
And, we’re supposed to believe that the German newspapers are not controlled by the puppet masters

Yavol.

5 posted on 07/07/2013 8:17:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Olog-hai

Even more obvious he’s got nothing left regarding spying on Americans.

What he’s REALLY offended at is the naughtiness of the NSA spying on foreigners.

The interesting thing is that there’s now a complete disconnect over what people fantasize that Snowden will release and what he’s actually released or is likely to release.

Again, if it was so easy for people at the NSA to spy on the content of communications of the average American citizen, why didn’t he grab and leak some examples of e-mails or cellphone conversation transcripts?

So were not going to see how the NSA spied on Sarah Palin or was used to win the 2012 election for Obama or how it cooperated with the IRS to harrass Tea Partiers - all we’re going to see from Snowden is how NSA does what it actually does the most of - spy on foreigners.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 8:19:09 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Olog-hai

I’d worry less about the Germans, and more about the Muslims myself.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 8:21:49 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Maybe this is why W jumped out of his cave: implosion is imminent.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 8:22:24 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Strategerist
Guess he never read the last chapter of The Art Of War. Chapter 13 is all about espionage.
Chia Lin says that an army without spies is like a man with ears or eyes.

9 posted on 07/07/2013 8:26:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Strategerist

For “with” read “without”.


10 posted on 07/07/2013 8:27:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Snowden doesn’t know everything, but what he reveals here is what interests the Germans, D’UH!


11 posted on 07/07/2013 8:29:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

12 posted on 07/07/2013 8:30:23 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Strategerist

I think the real big issue here is that Germany (who has some really tight privacy laws) are using NSA to collect data on their own citizens. I’m basing this on previous UK based info where they were concerned that they were using the NSA to spy on their people.

So the question is...does the US leverage other nations to spy on it’s citizens?


13 posted on 07/07/2013 8:31:14 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Strategerist

We’re also seeing how easily we are distracted.

Following is a list of May/June news stories that ran out steam after Snowden’s deflection.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgsGUMF7cCi3QF1zS-ESq7sO-T7nR08Q0


14 posted on 07/07/2013 8:47:12 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Olog-hai

There is no compartmentalization at all at the NSA? We seem to be awfully quick to accept any thing he says as fact.


15 posted on 07/07/2013 9:25:37 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: txhurl

> So he’s alive?

You know there’s several foaming mouths in the situation room that want his head on a platter for telling the truth about their intrusive domestic spying on the American people


16 posted on 07/07/2013 9:37:54 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

They could give a crap about what we’re doing except to sell it to advertisers - Witness Boston Marathon - but I agree this is shaking the right (bad) people to the core.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha


17 posted on 07/07/2013 10:02:07 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: txhurl

Shaken to the core with diplomacy nightmares with no cure - Snowden was right, the system just builds better whistleblowers.


18 posted on 07/07/2013 10:03:30 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Olog-hai

Shocking.


19 posted on 07/07/2013 10:52:58 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Olog-hai
So why did Germany want and help create the Boston Atrocity???

What was Germany's role AND responsibility ???


20 posted on 07/08/2013 3:41:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

I especially like that 3rd picture from the BM episode where the big faux hero, the creepy operative with the big hat meanders at the fence waiting for the completion of the movie set! Maybe Snowden will release some info on the many other False Flags and that has the 2bit government spies troubled.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 4:09:25 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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