Skip to comments.Asiana says pilot of crashed plane was in training
Posted on 07/07/2013 8:19:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Asiana Airlines Inc said the pilot in charge of landing the Boeing 777 that crash-landed at San Francisco's airport on Saturday was training for the long-range plane and that it was his first flight to the airport with the jet.
"It was Lee Kang-kook's maiden flight to the airport with the jet... He was in training. Even a veteran gets training (for a new jet)," a spokeswoman for Asiana Airlines said on Monday.
"He has a lot of experience and previously flown to San Francisco on different planes including the B747... and he was assisted by another pilot who has more experience with the 777," the spokeswoman said.
Lee, who started his career at Asiana as an intern in 1994, has 9,793 hours of flying experience, but only 43 hours with the Boeing 777 jet.
Co-pilot Lee Jeong-min, who has 3,220 hours of flying experience with the Boeing 777 and a total of 12,387 hours of flying experience, was helping Lee Kang-kook in the landing, the spokeswoman said.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Well, hopefully he doesn’t return to the cockpit. He failed.
that they will be passengers in a Driver`s Ed class.
Who was the Pilot in Command?
I understand that pilots need experience that is how they learn how to be pilots, but the co-pilot, he supposedly knew what he was doing..what the hell was he doing the entire time, just sitting there like a bump on a log
I don’t think he’ll even qualify to be a taxi driver after this..
Well I suppose he’s going to lose points for that landing.
So are you willing to spend a $100-$200 more per ticket to allow airlines to fly around empty airplanes to all the airports they fly to so that pilots can build up what you consider sufficient hours in a given aircraft landing at given airports?
Consider: The co-pilot, with significantly more B777 experience, did not challenge the captain’s throttle settings, airspeed or anything. The captain was allowed to save face, all the way to impact.
that would be the senior pilot. not the guy who made the worm-burner.
If so, he assumes primary responsibility for the mishap. Comes with the designation.
Both should be fired and sent to jail.
And the "co-pilot" would certainly have been a more senior captain who outranked the pilot in the captain's seat, which makes it even stranger.
CRM failure then? The co-pilot / trainer deferring to the pilot, not wanting to correct his superior?
That’s what it looks like. Don’t embarrass your superior on his first trip in the big-boy seat. If they were conversing in Korean, we’ll never know what cultural codewords and timidly understated observations and face-saving euphemisms were going back and forth in that cockpit.
Jeez!Admitting guilt unheard of.
Well their goes another airline.
It will take 18 months to conclude pilot error.
Thank you. I'll make sure the proper authorities follow this recommendation.
Why did they release the pilot’s name? Good grief.
Wasn’t the chief pilot monitoring his approach? When all the system alarms was telling him he’s too low and too slow why didn’t the chief pilot take over? You don’t do a check ride with a full load of passengers.
I suspected as much, as this seems like a very basic pilot error. Now the question is how well were the pilots trained at that airline? Do they really know how to fly an airplane, or are they taught to enter numbers into a flight computer?
on first trips in a new bus they hardly know how to drive. yupo
. 777 appears to be nothing but a big BUS with a couple bus drivers- ,
That`s why they call these jumbos AIRBUS
It would appear that the trial lawyers have not yet instilled in South Korea the proper fear of truthful statements. I am certain they will learn.
Guess he failed the final exam.....?
I see a lot of mindless speculation and jumping to conclusions on this thread.
Every pilot has a first time for landing at ANY airport.
Everyone, including FReepers, should calm down until an official investigation is complete. Remember, news reports are, more often then not, full of inaccuracies or total misinformation.
Remember the old adage “Better to be thought a fool, then to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
Perhaps you should repeat here what you know about this airline’s reputation.
CNN has a bit more info:
“The pilot, Lee Kang-gook, had flown from Seoul to the city several times between 1999 and 2004, the airline said.”
In other words he had not flown to SF for the past 10 years and didn’t have experience with a Boeing 777 (just 43 hrs). It turned out to be a lethal combination.
If they were both Captain Lee perhaps they confused themselves.
“Perhaps you should repeat here what you know about this airlines reputation.”
One can go to Skytrax for the ratings of all airlines in the world. Asiana is one of only seven airlines with five stars.
By the way, NO American carrier rates above three stars.
Pilots with gray hair or no hair are very preferable when you happen to be a passenger.
Actually this goes the same for many professions...
Not so sure they aren’t doing the right thing, being up front with information that will come out in the investigation anyway. Tell the truth and tell it early, I have great sympathy for the passengers and the families of those who died, but it is refreshing for a company to be honest and forthright from the beginning.
Well, based on evidence so far, including physical, debris trails, impact marks, witness statements and video, it appears this pilot and those in the cockpit, totally screwed up...
Too slow, too low, and way too short.
Pilots gotta train!
I feel sorry for the guy.
I wonder what was up with the co-pilot??
(is his responsibility, with a trainee)
Hard to Lee!
I hope neither of the pilots was named Roger!
“has 9,793 hours of flying experience, but only 43 hours with the Boeing 777 jet”
Asiana is about to meet many US ambulance-chasing attorney’s.
Korea will likely invoke the Montreal Treaty on all non-Koreans aboard.
Someone posted on another crash thread yesterday that he is a 777 pilot who flies out of SFO.
He said that asian pilots [due to their culture] give tremendous defference to the pilot in command - even when they see things going wrong.
Something about respecting authority ...
“Jeez!Admitting guilt unheard of. Well their goes another airline.”
If it were a U.S. Airline, then likely yes, the attorneys would be having a field day.
But this isn’t a U.S. Airline, so the Montreal Treaty applies here.
“It would appear that the trial lawyers have not yet instilled in South Korea the proper fear of truthful statements. I am certain they will learn.”
As I stated earlier, the Montreal Treaty will apply here, if Korea/Asiana choose to invoke it.
My gut tells me that "pilot error" will not be the final conclusion. I'm going with some kind of equipment failure.
I don't thinks so...I didn't hear that and in fact if they were having issues with the aircraft a full minute or two prior to landing, there would have been much more radio chatter from those in the cockpit to ATC. They would have made this very clear to the tower, since landing is critical, as opposed to cruising at altitude.
Very unlikely as we’ve already heard tidbits from the NTSB that indicate the plane performed normally.
“National Transportation Safety Board Chairwoman Deborah Hersman said Sunday that it was too early to say whether pilot error or mechanical failure were to blame.
But she said there was no evidence of problems with the flight or the landing until 7 seconds before impact, when the crew tried to increase the plane’s speed and the plane responded normally. The control tower was not alerted to any plane issues.”
Yahoo news report.
I think not all Asians only Koreans. Watch this one!
I'm hearing that it was down because of construction and/or maintenance.
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