Posted on 07/08/2013 7:10:29 AM PDT by areukiddingme1
Furloughs for Department of Defense civilians begin Monday [7 July 2013], a move that amounts to a 20 percent cut in pay for hundreds of thousands of defense workers over the next three months and will disrupt operations at installations around the country, Pentagon officials warn.
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Hey Mr. Present_dent — Thanks a$$hole! Not only are you weakening the military, you are weakening the nation. Great job you F’n loser! Dear God in heaven can we please have an American President again...please.
When do the EPA, DHS and HHS furloughs start?
When will the #1 spender in the nation have his executive budget reduced? To cut only defense undermines the chief duty of the federal government, to defend the nation. That should be the last to be cut, after the extra-constitutional departments are cut or better yet, eliminated completely.
“When do the EPA, DHS and HHS furloughs start?”
Now that is a damn good question...especially the EPA. They are much like the appendix in my humble opinion, I’m sure at some point it served a useful purpose, but then you realize you CAN live without it.
With as much fraud, waste, and abuse there is in government, no department, including Defense, doesn’t have at least 50% to cut and still be able to be effective.
“To cut only defense undermines the chief duty of the federal government, to defend the nation.”
Amen!!! An American President would know that.
Frankly Scarlett, everyone in America getting a check from the government should be taking a 40% cut just for govt to break even. After all, over 40 percent of government money is borrowed and I didn’t give government the power to borrow on my signature.
That includes the 50 states who are sucking up Sam’s cash quicker than it can be printed. And where might you ask does Sam come up with cash in the first place? If I have to answer that question, we are talking low low low information voters.
On top of all that, we have the debt ceiling, forever being raised to promulgate the perfidy, the Federal Reserve giving money away to foreign and domestic banks as fast as the computer can operate the thousands of bureaucracies local state and federal spending like there is no tomorrow, and on and on.
One would think a president with any brains would be the point person to bring the nation back on track.
Moron.
Those have already been going on
Considering our national debt and how bloated the DoD budget has become in recent years, this will most likely have 0 impact on our ability to defend the nation
Tax Tyrant. Idiot. Thief. Go wrap yourself in someone else’s flag and stop using mine for toilet paper.
Supporting the warfighter is one thing, we need national defense, but screwing the taxpayers/citizens to do it is a crime. So you can kiss my ass.
There is a difference in supporting the war fighter and supporting BAH.
These will be mostly non-essential personell. As with every part of the federal gov’t, everyone cries “disaster!” with this sequester yet everything has worked just fine.
No more scare tactics. Our military can still crush any other fighting force on earth
You’re obviously somebody we can do without. What exactly is it that you do that is so damned important we need to maintain these extremely high tax rates?
That is an incorrect statement.
I would try and explain it to you, but I doubt you would understand.
No its not.
We are talking CO’s and IT managers having to take Friday’s off. Cry me a river
The Navy is doing so bad they had time to award NGEN last week
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=75100
In other words, you can’t justify your existence to a taxpayer.
Support this fraud as a c-in-c all you want — I for one hope and pray every day that America will wake up and elect an American President next time, one that actually knows that his job is to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic” and not against American’s.
Out.
Uhh “Furloughs for Department of Defense civilians begin Monday [7 July 2013]”, Monday(today)is the 8th.
It isn’t supporting this CnC it is supporting the tax payer.
The amount of waste that goes on in the DoD is absurd.
Why does the Navy need NGEN? The HP proposal for it sucked, the current network system is just fine, instead the Navy will spend 3 billion over the next 5 years on this, which will all go into the pockets of HP executives.
Your responses are very liberal. You think emotionally, such as with defense. To you, ‘defense’ means anything and everything we must pay is worth because it is ‘defense’. Liberals always think their causes are worth anything and everything. Conservatives understand moderation and necessity. You have disrespect for those that pay the taxes. You believe we are too stupid to understand you and your job. You are arrogant enough to believe we are stupid but you are smart. Typical liberal way of thinking. Just because you support defense doesn’t make you a conservative. We understand everything about your job. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. It’s why we know significant cuts can be made without sacrificing one bullet, bomb, or bandage.
This is his call...on his watch...this is his FUBAR!!!
Carry on!
You have 0 clue what you are talking about.
Again, if the Navy is able to award a 5 year 3 billion dollar deal to the HP team (which has ATT on it) why on earth can’t they find money to prevent the furloughs from occurring.
NGEN is costing the tax payer 321M in the first year of the deal. How about delaying it and making sure that money is used to prevent useless personell from being furloughed?
Sorry, but my BS filter is full...done with you.
Again, you have no clue what on earth you are talking about which is why you have no intelligent response.
There is more then enough money in the DoD to keep the military operating just fine. In fact there is so much money in DoD it is still supporting the corporate welfare of CEOs and VPs at contractors all in the DC area.
Ever wonder why the DC area is so rich? Deals like NGEN.
Essentially the Navy is spending 321M over the next year to put money in the pockets of HP executives while also furloughing people every Friday.
Again, cry me a river
Just like Obama closing Whitehut tours but going on a $100 million unnecessary vacation.
The Navy HAS found the money to prevent the furloghs. SECNAV told SECDEF that. SECDEF stated that since the Army and Air Force hadn’t been able to make enough cuts, all branches would be furloghed.
I’m not only looking at a 20% cut, but the wife left and took her income with her, leaving me with the kid to raise, mortgage, etc.
Furloughing the American government — Essentially is tantamount to calling the United States of America equal to any third world country that cannot meet its payroll. This is on Barack “Millhouse” Obama II’s watch...He did this to us, He inflicted this on us, He owns this. Or is he going to blame this on Bush too, I mean he has only been present_dent for five years...this is what failed crony capitalism or socialism looks like, government shut downs and furloughs...well that is just outstanding. Well done Millhouse!
“President decline’s high water line is 23 million Americans unemployed, 8% unemployment for 42 consecutive months, 47 million Americans on food stamps, 6 trillion dollars in NEW debt, a declining military (with a looming 1 trillion dollar budget cut, laying off or firing many that voted for you), Iran on the verge of developing a nuclear bomb, threatening Israel’s peace and security, interest rates set to skyrocket (currently at 3.4% (average as of 9 Nov 12) for a 30 year fixed rate mortgage), and gas prices absolutely heading back up (you said so, currently $3.80 a gallon). These numbers are documented and frozen in time for you to be continuously measured against – You will either improve them, or make them worse.
With half of the country now paying closer attention to EVERY move you make and especially which way you move on the UN Arms Trade Treaty (potentially compromising American sovereignty, a move that flies in the face of the 2nd Amendment) you will not be able to outrun your record and I sincerely doubt that the media will remain complicit in your destruction of America (this time).”
From a previous post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2957538/posts
“So take your condesending BS and shove it sideways. “
Screw you and you “give me all your dough, it’s for DEFENSE DAMNIT!!!” bs. I am a defense contractor and I sure as Hell see the waste but I don’t wrap myself in the flag claiming it is for defense so the sky is the limit.
Your attitude is condescending in that you are claiming anyone that doesn’t get that we should spend anything and everything on defense is wrong.
I’ve been in defense probably longer than you have been alive, so don’t get all preachy that we must spend until broke and it’s Congress’s fault. I’ve been in the meetings where money is bought. Defense companies are every bit at fault as anyone else. They promise money and high powered jobs to military officers and DC polidiots alike, all to get approval for their latest project. So shove your “it’s someone else’s fault” crap. It is everyone’s fault in the defense industry. Everyone’s. Even the federal employees that want that job and do little to earn it. $700 billion is WAAAAY too much money for defense.
Of course, no raindrop ever thinks it is part of the flood. No snowflake ever thinks it contributed to the avalanche.
That is how corporatism in this country works.
Well at least we can be proud that OUR President has spent more money on boon-doggles than any other President in the history of civilization...
Fully funded EBT cards for the shiftless parasite class.
Ain't life grand in the 0bamanation?
You sound like a communist that hates capitalism and profits. Government workers get paid off the profits of capitalism. If a defense contractor has cost overruns blame the government. They government is in charge of the money being spent, not the contractor. Government employees are lazy and incompetent at best. Those that aren’t are stifled by the overwhelming majority that are. Sounds like you.
Spot On !!!
I worry about this, my daughter is a nurse and works in mental health helping returning soldiers get the help they need. She is furloughed; today is her first day- not worried about her, she is fine- I hope the soldiers continue to get the help they need. I know she is like an attack dog in getting them appointments so they get needed help, I hope others are fighting for them the way I know she does.
The answer is they could find the money and cut elsewhere- but our fearless leader wants this to hurt as much as possible so those nasty Republicans will be blamed so the furloughs are directed cuts, the military doesn’t get to pick and choose exactly where to cut.
That is why it is true that government can and needs to cut expenses; and it is also true that furloughs are hurting our military. It was set up to hurt.
The DoD furlough will “save” approx $1.75B Our Fearless Leader and his minions have already promised or spent multiple times that propping up and supporting all the sand monkeys in the middle east. How about we cut foreign aid and stop trying to buy friends.
It will not hurt the military, that is my point.
We are spending nearly a trillion a year on this overbloated DoD which is over run with fraud and abuse.
Having civilian IT managers and contracting officers taking Friday off for the next few weeks is not suddenly going to expose us to invasion by China
1.75b out of a trillion dollars?
FR is getting wound up over less then 1 percent of the DoD budget?
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