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Same-Sex Parenting: Child Abuse?
Public Discourse (The Witherspoon Institute) ^ | July 8, 2013 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 07/08/2013 8:39:52 AM PDT by fwdude

Pro-SSM people say gays have been unfairly stereotyped as child abusers, so any discussion of gay child abusers is adding to their oppression. Anti-SSM commentators generally don’t want the added fuss of showing up on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list of homophobes. So a general pattern emerges: even when you critique same-sex parenting, you must never do so in terms that sound accusatory or equate homosexuality with child abuse.

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What I mean is this: Even the most heroic mother in the world can’t father. So to intentionally deprive any child of her mother or father, except in cases like divorce for grave reasons or the death of a parent, is itself a form of abuse.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepublicdiscourse.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
Another excellent article from an author who has experienced this unnatural concoction first-hand.
1 posted on 07/08/2013 8:39:52 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Wait a second... are we saying that all the men who abuse little boys are NOT gay?!?!? WTF?!?!


2 posted on 07/08/2013 8:44:25 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Yeah, just add the “P” to the acronym of perversion as just another “sexual orientation.”


3 posted on 07/08/2013 8:46:04 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Child abuse at its worst not to mention a lifetime of sexual harassment, homosexual rape, and so goes the gay lifestyle.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 8:51:13 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: fwdude
I don’t have a silver bullet tactic for suddenly making low-information Americans aware that all the same-sex parenting propaganda—and more broadly our growing acceptance of non-traditional parenting—is really a cover for systematic abuse.

I don't disagree with that conclusion. So how do you deal with all of it? You can legislate against same-sex couples adopting. How do you deal with divorced single parents and single parents by choice?

5 posted on 07/08/2013 8:52:24 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Dr. Pritchett
are we saying that all the men who abuse little boys are NOT gay?!?!?
Yes, that's exactly what some gay rights activists say.
6 posted on 07/08/2013 8:55:16 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: fwdude; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
RE :Same-Sex Parenting: Child Abuse?, “

Too late, the damage is done.

The pro-gay-agenda crowd's path to victory was to convince ‘fair minded’ but no-so-bright Americans that gay parenting was a positive for kids, using the argument that a gay parent is better than no parent at all.(adoption, etc)

The so-cons (like Ralph Reed) who-were the primary opposition didnt put up a strong enough political opposition to this, or at least one convincing enough (hint :’Its a sin’ is not convincing anyone) .

Now we have Justice Kennedy inventing a new US constitutional right to marry same-sex partners using the reasoning that the absense of such a new right hurts those same kids that we (they) let the gays adopt.

Give them an inch and they use it against you to take a mile.

7 posted on 07/08/2013 8:55:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

No, what they’re saying is, you can’t mention it in any way when homosexuals do abuse kids, like those two Australian scumbags who raped a Russian baby.

Putting a child into an environment where homosexuality is normalized is child abuse. Plain and simple.


8 posted on 07/08/2013 8:55:18 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 0.E.O

Can you legislate against same sex couples adopting?

Yes, why not? They are not the best environment for a child to be raised.

How do you deal with divorced single parents and single parents by choice?

Elimination of no-fault divorce would be a good start.

Inability of a birth mother to name a father would be met with NO public assistance of any kind. Best outcome in many instances would be for the mother to put the child up for adoption to a heterosexual married couple that would offer them a more stable household to grow.


9 posted on 07/08/2013 9:06:31 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: sickoflibs
The pro-gay-agenda crowd's path to victory was to convince ‘fair minded’ but no-so-bright Americans that gay parenting was a positive for kids, using the argument that a gay parent is better than no parent at all.(adoption, etc)

It's even beyond this ridiculous, now. They have actually become so brazen that they claim sodomite couples are superior to natural parents in parenting children. A concocted lesbian "study" determined ZERO instances of child abuse in lesbian "households."

It is no stretch to predict that in their ever more frenzied push for conquest, homos will get government to REQUIRE children placed with queers BEFORE normal people are considered. It has already happened in the U.K., where children were even denied to blood relatives as caregivers in deference to two sodomites.

Traditional families will be investigated for children being exposed to "homophobia," and the state will determine whether removal of the child from the home, "for the child's own good," of course, is warranted, and these children will no doubt be placed with homosexuals to combat the "homophobic" teaching of their abusive parents.

10 posted on 07/08/2013 9:15:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Can you legislate against same sex couples adopting?

Yes, why not? They are not the best environment for a child to be raised.

Until a perverted court gets involved (FL, AR) and calls such sensible laws "unconstitutional."

11 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:40 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
RE :”It’s even beyond this ridiculous, now. They have actually become so brazen that they claim sodomite couples are superior to natural parents in parenting children. A concocted lesbian “study” determined ZERO instances of child abuse in lesbian “households.”

In a decade or two there will be a massive number of cases of boys raised by two mommies to make an overwhelming case, but unfortunately too late.

In any case this was court imposed.

12 posted on 07/08/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: fwdude

That is why a constitutional amendment was called for twenty years ago when this insanity started.

Now we will simply slide farther into the abyss.

Western society is simply in a decline that is picking up speed at a dramatic rate.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 9:33:13 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: fwdude

Many kids grow up with abusive straight parents that subject them to all kinds of violence, including sexual violence. ...Hard for me to categorize all gays as bad parents, though my friend who worked in the SanFran schools said that all kids being raised by gay couples were disturbed.

The gay couple we talked about last week, who adopted and unceasingly sexually violated that little boy, were truly monsters.

Am I separating their monsterhood from their gayhood? Not really. Their gayness shaped the kind of abuse they perpetrated. Were they straight, they might have just beaten him to death.

Point is, who let them have that child? What tests are people given before they can adopt?


14 posted on 07/08/2013 9:34:38 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Viennacon

Children should not be placed in the care of homosexuals.

If the woman runs off with another woman the child should stay with the father.
If the man runs off with another man the child stays with the mother,

Children should not be abused by being placed in a homosexual environment.

If both the mother and father are unfit place the child ion the care of the State until a decent home can be found.


15 posted on 07/08/2013 9:43:31 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: sickoflibs

” Too late, the damage is done.

The pro-gay-agenda crowd’s path to victory was to convince ‘fair minded’ but no-so-bright Americans that gay parenting was a positive for kids, using the argument that a gay parent is better than no parent at all.(adoption, etc)”

The damage is indeed done. Just watch what happens from here..


16 posted on 07/08/2013 10:04:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: fwdude
For those who didn't read the article, the author isn't talking about the kind of active abuse that makes the news or gets social services called. He's saying that the deliberate decision to put a child into a household without parents of both sexes is IN ITSELF abuse. This applies whether it is the household of a same-sex couple or a single parent of either sex.

He says that the adults in such situations first deprive the child of a mother and father, and then additionally abuse him or her by requiring that the child pretend the situation is satisfactory.

In his critique, he points out not only homosexual parents (natural or adoptive), but also casual divorce, deliberate unmarried mothers, and unmarried adoptive parents. One can understand why his comments would not be welcomed even by opponents of homosexual marriage. The idea that a child is a "right," existing for the good of the adult, rather than a gift, a "subject" for his own sake, is in no way unique to homosexuals.

17 posted on 07/08/2013 10:13:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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To: fwdude

Willfully exposing children to sexual perversion is abuse, and that begins before the homosexuals start practicing their perversion on the children. Whatever horrible things homosexuals do to children, through exposing them to their perversion to pedophilia, is the fault of PC society, the left, Democrats, weak-minded Republicans.


18 posted on 07/08/2013 10:56:29 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Tax-chick

Homosexuals are, by necessity, sexual anarchists. It’s not just that they engage in and seek to legitimize their own particular sexual practices; they want ALL taboos regarding sex abolished. There ARE NO activist homosexuals who have any sexual ethic whatsoever; none of them condemn premarital sex, fornication, promiscuity, or non-monogamy - it’s all part and parcel of their world view: sex of any kind, with anyone, with as many as desired, whenever, wherever you want.

And to drop a child into the middle of this consistent worldview of moral anarchy is, in itself, child abuse. It’s no different than showing a child pornography and telling him it is good. This is the perverted world view that is being modeled.

Regnerus’ family structure study revealed the fact that it’s not just the deprivation of one sexual role model that is the problem, but that, among other issues, higher incidences of being touched sexually, identifying as homosexual or being raped is associated with being raised by homosexual parents.

http://www.familystructurestudies.com/


19 posted on 07/08/2013 11:33:03 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude; Tax-chick
I've put this in my bookmarks file. I can see I'll have to refer to it frequently from here on in.

Tax-chick said it right: the premeditated, pre-planned intent to produce or acquire a child in such a way that he (or she) will be deliberately bereft of a father or a mother, is what makes this distinguishable from, say, ordinary adoption.

In adoption, the child is in a pre-existing, admittedly sad, tragic situation (no mama, no papa) and the adoptive parents -- to the best of their ability ---intervene to supply what the child needs. With gay couple child-rearing, the situation is deliberately set up so the child permanently lacks a father or a mother. PLUS the child has to serve the adults' emotional needs by pretending this is just fine and dandy. It's based on the adults' desires, not the child's needs.

So the child is deprived, in a kind of existential way, even if there is no early gay "propaganda," no overtly abusive behavior, no precocious sexualization. Everyone --- but especially the child --- is required to uphold the lie that the child has no need for, no right to, even no interest in, a father and a mother.

20 posted on 07/08/2013 12:40:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; fwdude
So the child is deprived, in a kind of existential way, even if there is no early gay "propaganda," no overtly abusive behavior, no precocious sexualization. Everyone --- but especially the child --- is required to uphold the lie that the child has no need for, no right to, even no interest in, a father and a mother.

That's a good restatement of what the author said at more length. He emphasized the pain for the child in being told, openly or indirectly, "Your needs are irrelevant. Your feelings have no weight compared to adults' desires."

As fwdude pointed out, the Regnerus study and other data indicate that additional abuse and distortion of normal sexuality is extremely common for homosexuals' children; that indeed, they don't recognize the existence of "normal sexuality." We also need to remember that, behind the propaganda, homosexual couplings are very unstable, so children are exposed to breakups and random sex-partners in the household just as are the children of the value-free underclass, with the parade of "stepfather," "fiancé," "Mommy's boyfriend."

21 posted on 07/08/2013 1:08:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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To: sickoflibs; Impy

I’m actually changing my tagline on this since it seems that “conservative groups” are shooting themselves in the foot again with another not-so-conservative “true conservative” candidate for Senate. It’s time to play hardball.


22 posted on 07/08/2013 1:25:55 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy
Like Ryan, I was down on Dick Cheney when he was still a cult hero here.

Cheney was hailed a hero here up till about Spring 2010.

Early Spring 2010 he goes on Sunday shows critical of Obama on terrorism, that's all it takes to be a hero: ‘Cheney for POTUS’, no-no maybe it was Cheney-Palin, or was it Palin-Cheney?? whatever..,,

Then a month or so later he announces he is for legalize same sex marriage. ‘What?? How can this be??’ they asked. later he said he was happy DADT was repealed 'General Patton Cheney' DA-DA-DA

23 posted on 07/08/2013 1:40:37 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Tax-chick; fwdude
Take two minutes --- just two minutes --- to compare and contrast:

"At the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life. Beliefs about these matters could not define the attributes of personhood were they formed under compulsion of the State."

- Justice Anthony Kennedy,
Planned Parenthood vs. Casey.

VS

“At the heart of biblical faith is God’s love, his concrete concern for every person, and his plan of salvation which embraces all of humanity and all of creation, culminating in the incarnation, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Without insight into these realities, there is no criterion for discerning what makes human life precious and unique. Man loses his place in the universe; he is cast adrift in nature, either renouncing his proper moral responsibility or else presuming to be a sort of absolute judge, endowed with an unlimited power to manipulate the world around him.”

- Pope Francis, Lumen fidei, n. 54.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 2:02:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Virgo Dei Genitrix, quem totus non capit orbis, In tua se clausit viscera factus homo.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Great find! I’m still reading the new letter, a batch of pages on a clipboard meandering around the house ...


25 posted on 07/08/2013 2:08:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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To: fwdude

Absolutely it is child abuse. My father was gay and everyone I know who had a set of ‘gay parents’ was abused.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 7:40:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

The sorry state of the foster care system was no help, if I were a partentless kid I’d rather have a couple dykes with a nice house than be in some craphole with 10 other kids so some fat scuzzbucket can collect a welfare check or worse yet some prison-like group home.

I asked my mother, queers or orphanage? She would have picked orphanage.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 3:44:58 AM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: sickoflibs

Why can’t they see that all adults are supposed to look out for the interests of children. Children come before pervs.


28 posted on 07/09/2013 5:10:45 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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