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CNN: Is ‘black manhood’ on trial in Zimmerman case?
The Daily Caller ^ | 8 Jul 2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 07/08/2013 9:13:07 AM PDT by mandaladon

In an article posted on The Nation’s website last week, Mychal Denzel-Smith suggested that in the George Zimmerman trial underway for the murder of Trayvon Martin, it isn’t Zimmerman who is on trial, but Martin and black manhood.

Denzel-Smith made an appearance on Sunday’s “CNN Newsroom” to back up that claim and accuse Zimmerman of depicting Martin as a “very cartoonish version” of a 17-year-old black boy.

“To believe Zimmerman’s story, I think, because to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said. “I think you know, to believe that Trayvon Martin was to jump out of the bushes and to approach George Zimmerman and to strike him in the face without any type of provocation sounds to me like you have to believe that there is an inherent criminality and inherent violence in 17-year-old black boys that you see.”

Denzel-Smith went on to suggest that Zimmerman thought his neighborhood was threatened by Martin because of Martin’s skin color.

“The operator didn’t explicitly tell him not to follow but said they didn’t need him to,” Denzel-Smith continued. “But I think George Zimmerman — again, this is my opinion — but after identifying Trayvon Martin was a young black man that he felt his neighborhood was in more danger than you know, the police could handle at that specific time and that he needed to assure himself and his neighborhood they would be protected.”

Joining Denzel-Smith for the segment was Rod Vereen, attorney for the prosecution’s witness Rachel Jeantel. Vereen agreed with Denzel-Smith’s suggestion that black manhood was on trial in the case.

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“Of course it is,” Vereen said. “People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent. And that is absolutely not the case. They want to make it appear Trayvon Martin comes in a broken home and that he lacks parental guidance and youthful guidance and therefore, was more apt to be the aggressor in the situation with Mr. Zimmerman, without any evidence to support that inference.”

I believe crime statistic refute what these two racist clowns are saying.

1 posted on 07/08/2013 9:13:07 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

What they’re enraged about is the possibility that young black men won’t be able to administer a payback beatdown with impunity.


2 posted on 07/08/2013 9:14:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon
but Martin and black manhood.

The media is who is ones always portraying Trayvon as a 12 year old boy.

3 posted on 07/08/2013 9:15:13 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: mandaladon

Kids much younger than Trayvon are killing rivals everyday in the ‘hood.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 9:15:53 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“The media is who is ones” = “The media are the ones”


5 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:21 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MrB

So that entails these poor vitimized black males to call white people “creepy ass cracka’s” and n*gg*s?


6 posted on 07/08/2013 9:16:24 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: mandaladon

There is no standard below which the MSM will not go.

And - of course - CNN competes directly with MSNBC to see which one can plunge deeper into the depths of idiocy.


7 posted on 07/08/2013 9:17:09 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: mandaladon

What’s the status of “black manhood” when it comes to fatherless children or black-on-black murder, which is about 1000% more common than white-on-black homicide?


8 posted on 07/08/2013 9:18:25 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: mandaladon
Trayvon’s baby-momma said that he cried like a little baby when George Zim was whipping the snot out of him. So, yes... I would certainly question Trayvon’s manhood.
9 posted on 07/08/2013 9:18:56 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
No need to self censor.

Trayvon "St. Skittles" Martin called himself @no_limits_nigga ... so by no means can "nigga" be considered offensive.

10 posted on 07/08/2013 9:19:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

did you mean “entitles”?

Yes. I guess they are entitled to beatdown and murder “whitey”.

BTW,

waddup, m’crackuh?

(”It’s our word, you can’t use it”)


11 posted on 07/08/2013 9:19:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon

Trying to rely on the individual’s acts rather than racial generalizations?

How about Martin without legal justification pounced on the cracker (white N word)then made his face look like a motorcycle ran it over.

Doesn’t sound like a cartoon to me. Why didn’t the interviewer ask that? It’s not rocket science even for a journalist.


12 posted on 07/08/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by jschwartz
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To: mandaladon
“To believe Zimmerman’s story, I think, because to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said. “I think you know, to believe that Trayvon Martin was to jump out of the bushes and to approach George Zimmerman and to strike him in the face without any type of provocation sounds to me like you have to believe that there is an inherent criminality and inherent violence in 17-year-old black boys that you see.”

Yes, because it's not like a seventeen year old black boy has ever hit someone without any provocation.

This talking head (and, quite frankly, most black people) turn a complete blind eye to the Knockout Game, Polar Bear Hunting, and Mahogany Mobs comprised of seventeen year old black boys that attack without provocation on a daily basis.

13 posted on 07/08/2013 9:20:32 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: clintonh8r

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/father-22-children-14-women-sued-support-article-1.1365207


14 posted on 07/08/2013 9:21:10 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: mandaladon

It’s not just a trial, it’s a symbol. It’s not about Zimmerman and Martin. It’s a symbol of all Whites and the goal is to condemn all Whites as racist.


15 posted on 07/08/2013 9:23:45 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: mandaladon

Maybe Black Manhood needs to be on trial.

Who is killing the blacks in ghetto’s
Who is responsible for a 70% rate of childbirth without marriage.
Not counting those aborted.
Who is robbing and Raping , and committing crimes?
Who are dropping out of school.

I don’t believe that is what this trial is about, but it would seem a good idea to check out what is happening to black manhood.


16 posted on 07/08/2013 9:24:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: mandaladon

“inherent violence and inherent criminality in 17 year old black boys”

And the irony that many fear other ‘17 year old black boys’ may likely turn to riot, looting and the ‘knock-out game’ if they don’t get the verdict they demand.


17 posted on 07/08/2013 9:25:56 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

But in this case, according to the culture in which he was raised, there WAS provocation, if not outright justification, for beating down GZ, if not killing him -

some white lookin’ guy “dissed” TM by following him and suspecting him of mal-intent.


18 posted on 07/08/2013 9:26:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon

Being a male human of certain age does not make you a “man”, with honor, dignity, respect for family & hard work, etc.


19 posted on 07/08/2013 9:26:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Da Coyote
CNN competes directly with MSNBC to see which one can plunge deeper into the depths of idiocy.

Presstitutes aren't exactly renowned for their standards of honesty and integrity.

20 posted on 07/08/2013 9:27:34 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: mandaladon

“Black Manhood” just got shot in the chest for being a racist thug and burglar. Case closed


21 posted on 07/08/2013 9:29:10 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: mandaladon
I will believe in their manhood when they start providing for their own kids.

The real black men don't hang around in inner city ghettos.

22 posted on 07/08/2013 9:32:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: mandaladon

It’s hard to imagine a more twisted analysis, if that’s what it is...


23 posted on 07/08/2013 9:33:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: mandaladon

Speaking as someone who is totally in the tank for George Zimmerman(ME)

CNN regular of late has been fairer to George than Fox News has, seriously! Not referring to this article

Now HLN owned by CNN another story

Fox has been just plain UNFAIR and UNBALANCED to George Zimmerman at least since the trial is actually underway.

Cant believe I am actually saying this but the very gay Anderson Cooper every night the last few days has been fairer to George than Fox has, ABSOLUTELY

They have had the same panel over a period of at least a week, and have had more attorneys defending George than Fox has

Meagan Kelly, Leese Wheel, and another prosecutor that is regularly on with Kelly, have ALL tried and convicted George

Just today during a break I went to Fox John Scott segment, they had on that POS Dr Bawdin, who`s wife is on night after night on HLN saying terrible lies about George

Dr Badwin is a WORTHLESS POC, same guy that argued for the famous music producer, testified that the murdered girl committed suicide in his home, guy will say ANYTHING for 200 grand

Just saying I have watched the coverage of the entire trial, some of the CNN coverage (depending what time of day you tune in) has been much fairer than Fox (Speaking of only since trial began)

Fox it seems only cares about ratings. They first told George they had his back, until better ratings came along.

They completely abandoned him until just recently when they discovered late that people were more interested than the Obama scandals (the elections over we lost, America is no longer a Christian Country, pains me to say this)

So they start covering the trial again (Fox) until Plane crash, now they decided again George is only second fiddle, and plane crash trumps the trial again

Meanwhile some of CNN programs are coming across more fair and balanced, depending which program you tune into


24 posted on 07/08/2013 9:34:03 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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To: P.O.E.

One definition of becoming a man:
leaving home, getting an education, getting married, starting work and becoming a father


25 posted on 07/08/2013 9:34:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon

“People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent. And that is absolutely not the case.”

I challenge any white person who believes this to be true to take a midnight walk in any black ghetto of their choice at 12 am.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 9:34:53 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

It was reported today on Fox, that Trayvon was 6’2” and 220 pounds!? All I keep seeing is a middle school picture of him as a boy on television.


27 posted on 07/08/2013 9:35:10 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: mandaladon

Stereotypes tend to exist based on some real facts observed in the past.


28 posted on 07/08/2013 9:35:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: clintonh8r

I’m tired of the black-on-black mantra, because it covers up the black-on-white statistics.

Yes, black-on-black is higher, but that would be the expectation, as most crime is local/familiar and blacks self-segregate.

But why is black-on-white crime so high?


29 posted on 07/08/2013 9:36:40 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: mandaladon

Nearly one in three African American males aged 20–29 are under some form of criminal justice supervision whether imprisoned, jailed, on parole or probation. That it is cartoonist to think a 17 year old black male may be on his way to criminality suspends reality. I think things we know about Martin that haven’t been allowed in evidence point in this direction.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 9:37:25 AM PDT by Starstruck (Thank a gun owner for your freedom.)
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To: mandaladon

Given crime statistics and dead-beat dad rates, maybe it’s time that our society puts “black manhood” on trial.


31 posted on 07/08/2013 9:38:02 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: mandaladon
It is not Black manhood on trial here...it is those men and women of our inner cities who refuse to assimilate into America and instead choose to become feral African animals.

They are the ones being exposed here and who are on trial here.

32 posted on 07/08/2013 9:38:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: mandaladon
CNN: Is ‘black manhood’ on trial in Zimmerman case?

Dear CNN,

Such a conjecture wastes words. Can't you simply say "Black people, please riot no matter what the verdict"?

It's much more economical and succinct.

Helpfully yours,

Laz

33 posted on 07/08/2013 9:38:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: mandaladon

Anyone of color and means here in Memphis sends their children to a private school to run away from the hell which becomes public school black male conduct once they enter their teen years.


34 posted on 07/08/2013 9:38:55 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: mandaladon
It's just a little racial agitprop from the usual clowns at The Nation. It's never about the facts with these people, it's always about symbolism and arcane subtext and mystic sociological blather. If Zimmerman is acquitted they'll be screaming for race riots to punish the "real" guilty, which is - wait for it - white-privilege Western society and anyone, black, white, or otherwise, who attempts to defend it. CNN would be happy to cover the riots - makes for some great TV and a bully pulpit from which to do their own customary disparagement of the society that made them. I'm hoping they're all disappointed.
35 posted on 07/08/2013 9:40:19 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yes, I thought he was 12. LOL. Not really following this case, obviously. How old was he? (blush)


36 posted on 07/08/2013 9:40:22 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: mandaladon

37 posted on 07/08/2013 9:40:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (This is a sarcasm tag for the retards unable to recognize sarcasm.)
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To: mandaladon

As posted on a thread yesterday - and which I personally verified - there have already been several brutal black-on-white “revenge” assaults associated with this case. When the media engage in speculation like this, they are just pouring fuel on the flames. It is becoming obvious to me that the media are encouraging rioting and revenge crimes in the case of an acquittal. The fact that this one incident - a second-degree charge and not even a hate crime - has been hyped above all the other thousands of murders tells us much more about the media than about Zimmerman or Martin.


38 posted on 07/08/2013 9:41:57 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: mandaladon

Jessie Jackson prefered to see a white man, not a black man on a dark night.


39 posted on 07/08/2013 9:42:19 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: mandaladon

Um,

Is there such a thing?


40 posted on 07/08/2013 9:43:39 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: I want the USA back
the goal is to condemn all Whites as racist.

The goal is to make sure victims of violence don't defend themselves.

41 posted on 07/08/2013 9:45:14 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: mandaladon

“Mychal Denzel-Smith”

One guess.


42 posted on 07/08/2013 9:45:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: ladyjane

More and more people are starting to get that.

The outrage in this case is that people will resist thuggery.


43 posted on 07/08/2013 9:46:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Venturer
Maybe Black Manhood needs to be on trial.

I agree.
What other subgroup routinely call women bitches and ho's?
Spend fortunes on street drugs, cars, bling, gold and diamond teeth, and shoes, but not a dime on the children they sire?
Wear hats with logos that carry some coded, threatening message?
Have ways of gesturing with their hands that constitute threatening messages or quasi-tribal identities?

Yeah, I'd say it's high time black manhood went on trial.

44 posted on 07/08/2013 9:47:16 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: mandaladon

CNN really irritates me with this type of horse puckey.

Yes, there is a problem that concerns black community but it is of no help when news organizations focus on this type chit. Isn’t that racist?

There are many GREAT black men but what seems to be out front is this type of inflammatory stuff, it keeps the fire burning.

What if the focus wasn’t on rappers, sports figures and the poor, poor misunderstood thugs in black culture? What if they started uplifting the wonderful black men in this country?

Look at Lt Col Allen West! What do they do to him? They tear him down, they weren’t even supportive of a recount in his election.

Why not? Because he isn’t the right kind of black man? Do they only want to show gangsta type successful black men? What about Thomas Sowell? What about Charles Payne?

There are so many great black men but they are not the story. Why is that?


45 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:03 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: mandaladon

By all means, keep the fire at least smouldering in anticipation of the conflagration to come.

Wish someone would leak to Drudge the Riot Graphics that you KNOW the nets already have designed and ready to go.


46 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: mandaladon
"to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said.

Wasn't it Rachel Jeantel and not George Zimmerman that testified that Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy a$$ cracker" and said that the "nigga" {Zimmerman] was following him? So I assume that Mr. Denzel-Smith will also be chastising Jeantel for testimony that makes Martin sound like a cartoonish version of a seventeen year old black boy. Oh... wait... Denzel-Smith won't be chastising Jeantel? I wonder why.

47 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:40 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: mandaladon

There’s a neighborhood or two that I frequent in DC where I’d love to see these 2 TV lawyers in their $$$$ suits, with their $$$$ watches, and observe how friendly they are with the local 17 year old males. Both before and after they got mugged. Would just love to see that scenario!


48 posted on 07/08/2013 9:50:07 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: mandaladon

Yes. This is a clash of cultures. It’s like watching humans and klingons battle it out.

And I’m not referring to race. I’m referring to culture.


49 posted on 07/08/2013 9:51:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Kids much younger than Trayvon are killing rivals everyday in the ‘hood

At least 9 dead, dozens wounded in Chicago during holiday weekend shootings
Fox News ;- 4 hours ago
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50 posted on 07/08/2013 9:53:10 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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