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CNN: Is ‘black manhood’ on trial in Zimmerman case?
The Daily Caller ^ | 8 Jul 2013 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 07/08/2013 9:13:07 AM PDT by mandaladon

In an article posted on The Nation’s website last week, Mychal Denzel-Smith suggested that in the George Zimmerman trial underway for the murder of Trayvon Martin, it isn’t Zimmerman who is on trial, but Martin and black manhood.

Denzel-Smith made an appearance on Sunday’s “CNN Newsroom” to back up that claim and accuse Zimmerman of depicting Martin as a “very cartoonish version” of a 17-year-old black boy.

“To believe Zimmerman’s story, I think, because to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said. “I think you know, to believe that Trayvon Martin was to jump out of the bushes and to approach George Zimmerman and to strike him in the face without any type of provocation sounds to me like you have to believe that there is an inherent criminality and inherent violence in 17-year-old black boys that you see.”

Denzel-Smith went on to suggest that Zimmerman thought his neighborhood was threatened by Martin because of Martin’s skin color.

“The operator didn’t explicitly tell him not to follow but said they didn’t need him to,” Denzel-Smith continued. “But I think George Zimmerman — again, this is my opinion — but after identifying Trayvon Martin was a young black man that he felt his neighborhood was in more danger than you know, the police could handle at that specific time and that he needed to assure himself and his neighborhood they would be protected.”

Joining Denzel-Smith for the segment was Rod Vereen, attorney for the prosecution’s witness Rachel Jeantel. Vereen agreed with Denzel-Smith’s suggestion that black manhood was on trial in the case.

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To: I want the USA back
the goal is to condemn all Whites as racist.

The goal is to make sure victims of violence don't defend themselves.

41 posted on 07/08/2013 9:45:14 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: mandaladon

“Mychal Denzel-Smith”

One guess.


42 posted on 07/08/2013 9:45:45 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: ladyjane

More and more people are starting to get that.

The outrage in this case is that people will resist thuggery.


43 posted on 07/08/2013 9:46:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Venturer
Maybe Black Manhood needs to be on trial.

I agree.
What other subgroup routinely call women bitches and ho's?
Spend fortunes on street drugs, cars, bling, gold and diamond teeth, and shoes, but not a dime on the children they sire?
Wear hats with logos that carry some coded, threatening message?
Have ways of gesturing with their hands that constitute threatening messages or quasi-tribal identities?

Yeah, I'd say it's high time black manhood went on trial.

44 posted on 07/08/2013 9:47:16 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: mandaladon

CNN really irritates me with this type of horse puckey.

Yes, there is a problem that concerns black community but it is of no help when news organizations focus on this type chit. Isn’t that racist?

There are many GREAT black men but what seems to be out front is this type of inflammatory stuff, it keeps the fire burning.

What if the focus wasn’t on rappers, sports figures and the poor, poor misunderstood thugs in black culture? What if they started uplifting the wonderful black men in this country?

Look at Lt Col Allen West! What do they do to him? They tear him down, they weren’t even supportive of a recount in his election.

Why not? Because he isn’t the right kind of black man? Do they only want to show gangsta type successful black men? What about Thomas Sowell? What about Charles Payne?

There are so many great black men but they are not the story. Why is that?


45 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:03 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: mandaladon

By all means, keep the fire at least smouldering in anticipation of the conflagration to come.

Wish someone would leak to Drudge the Riot Graphics that you KNOW the nets already have designed and ready to go.


46 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: mandaladon
"to me it reads like a very cartoonish version of what a 17-year-old black boy would say and do in this situation,” Denzel-Smith said.

Wasn't it Rachel Jeantel and not George Zimmerman that testified that Martin called Zimmerman a "creepy a$$ cracker" and said that the "nigga" {Zimmerman] was following him? So I assume that Mr. Denzel-Smith will also be chastising Jeantel for testimony that makes Martin sound like a cartoonish version of a seventeen year old black boy. Oh... wait... Denzel-Smith won't be chastising Jeantel? I wonder why.

47 posted on 07/08/2013 9:49:40 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: mandaladon

There’s a neighborhood or two that I frequent in DC where I’d love to see these 2 TV lawyers in their $$$$ suits, with their $$$$ watches, and observe how friendly they are with the local 17 year old males. Both before and after they got mugged. Would just love to see that scenario!


48 posted on 07/08/2013 9:50:07 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: mandaladon

Yes. This is a clash of cultures. It’s like watching humans and klingons battle it out.

And I’m not referring to race. I’m referring to culture.


49 posted on 07/08/2013 9:51:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Kids much younger than Trayvon are killing rivals everyday in the ‘hood

At least 9 dead, dozens wounded in Chicago during holiday weekend shootings
Fox News ;- 4 hours ago
Shootings in Chicago during the Fourth of July holiday weekend have left at least nine people dead and several dozen wounded, including two ...
50 posted on 07/08/2013 9:53:10 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: mandaladon
“People have a tendency to want to believe that young black men are growing up in these urban neighborhoods to be violent. And that is absolutely not the case.”

Just look at how many people were killed and/or shot in Chicago this past holiday weekend and where those shootings occured and then tell me "that is absolutely not the case."

51 posted on 07/08/2013 9:54:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: mandaladon

That’s Retarded, Sir!


52 posted on 07/08/2013 9:54:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: mandaladon

White-Hispanichood is on trial.


53 posted on 07/08/2013 9:55:04 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: mandaladon

Chicago was a hotbed of Black Male Manhood this 4th of July weekend.


54 posted on 07/08/2013 9:56:26 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: Billthedrill
It's just a little racial agitprop from the usual clowns at The Nation. It's never about the facts with these people, it's always about symbolism and arcane subtext and mystic sociological blather.

Sounds like Critical Race Theory, which is taught to children in public schools. Also in university, where white parents pay though the nose to have their children taught to hate themselves, their parents, and whites in general, unless they're other self-hating whites.
55 posted on 07/08/2013 9:56:30 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SampleMan
But why is black-on-white crime so high?

  1. It is more profitable (an average whitey is richer)
  2. It is safer (an average whitey is less aggressive)
  3. There is no chance of revenge by the whitey's homies
  4. The whitey is demonized within the ghetto community, and hurting him is just another "justice for someone" - if not for St. Trayvon then for some slaves who worked on some abstract plantations many generations ago.

In other words, a whitey is a nice and safe punching bag.

56 posted on 07/08/2013 9:57:04 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: mandaladon

If black manhood isn’t on trial, perhaps it should be. If a very small percentage of the population is committing a very large percentage of crimes, then it SHOULD be evaluated.

From politifact.com website:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/bill-bennett/black-men-are-4-percent-americans-35-percent-murde/

Ever since the arrest of black Harvard University scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr., and the comments about the controversy by President Barack Obama, pundits have analyzed and reanalyzed what the incident says about crime and race in America.

On the July 26, 2009, edition of CNN’s State of the Union with John King , conservative commentator Bill Bennett urged that the Gates case not obscure larger social realities about crime.

“Well, I guess they are going to have a beer at the White House, the president has backed off from his ridiculous statement at the press conference. And, of course, Sgt. Crowley [the arresting officer, who is white] has shown himself to be an exemplary police officer. I hope if we get to so-called teachable moments and underlying issues, we’ll get to some real problems. There obviously are wayward cops, not in this case, but let’s talk about the fact that young black men in this country grow up 75 percent of the them without fathers. And if we talk about crime in America, let’s remember that 4 percent of American citizens are black males, but they are 35 percent of murder victims. This doesn’t come from the police. These are big and serious problems and I think this whole issue has obscured those more serious problems because of the ego of a Harvard professor.”

The issue of single parenthood is a good one to investigate further, but for now we’ll look at the second part of his assertion — that “4 percent of American citizens are black males, but they are 35 percent of murder victims.”

On the first part of this claim, Bennett underestimated the black male percentage of the U.S. population by roughly one-third. The Census Bureau’s latest population estimate for the entire country, covering 2008, is 304,059,724. We determined the number of black men in America by taking the 2008 population estimate for African-Americans as a whole and multiplying that number by .477. (For various actuarial reasons, the Census Bureau found that 47.7 percent of African-Americans were male and 52.3 percent were female in 2007.) This left us with 18,631,063, or 6.1 percent of the U.S. population — a number notably higher than Bennett’s estimate.

(Because Bennett specifically mentioned “American citizens,” we also tried an alternative calculation, subtracting from the total U.S. population the 11.6 million undocumented Americans estimated by the Department of Homeland Security. Calculated this way, the result is 6.4 percent, making little difference in the result.)

On the more important statistic of murder victimization rates, Bennett actually understated his own point.

According to Crime in the United States, a statistical survey published annually by the FBI, 6,223 black men were murdered nationally in 2007 out of 14,831 total murder victims, or 42 percent. The percentages for the two prior years were consistent — 42 percent in 2006 and 41 percent in 2005.

So, Bennett got the numbers wrong on both ends of his assertions, and not by insignificant amounts. But on the general point — that black men are murdered at disproportionately high rates — he is unquestionably correct. For this reason, we give his statement a rating of Mostly True.


57 posted on 07/08/2013 9:57:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: clintonh8r

I read an article from the Guardian last night, and it so irritated me I had to post this:

“The George Zimmerman trial is the worst fear of every black family”
“Parents of black males live in fear that their children won’t come home because someone thought they were dangers to society”

Unbelievable.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that their son or daughter will be engaged into the hip-hop culture

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that they become a gang banger.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that the sons or daughters of other black “families” will murder their children.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that their sons or daughters are perceived of acting “too white”.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that they talked to the wrong person.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that they inadvertently “disrespected” someone.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that they get involved with drugs or alcohol

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be their daughters have babies before the age of 18 without having a husband or even an involved father in the picture.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that their sons impregnate girls before the age of 18 and have no obligation to either marry or be involved in the child’s life.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that their kids go to high school without learning to read.

The worst fear of every black family SHOULD be that their kids don’t even graduate from high school.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE THE DAMNED WORST FEAR OF EVERY BLACK FAMILY.

But they aren’t.

Instead, they are fed lines of bull crap from liberals of all races, and race baiters of all races. They are told that whites are their worst enemy. They are told that cops are their worst enemy. They are told that the government is their worst enemy, and in that last one, they may well be right.

It is a crime what liberalism has been allowed to do to the black community, and they shoulder a great deal of the responsibility themselves.

Being murdered by white, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, or any other kind of American except for black Americans should be THE LAST THING THEY FEAR.


58 posted on 07/08/2013 10:00:34 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: rlmorel

What Politifact failed to mention is that more than 90% (up to 93% or more in some years) of black males who are murdered are murdered by other black males.


59 posted on 07/08/2013 10:05:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Right.


60 posted on 07/08/2013 10:06:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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