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Washington Warns Snowden May Only Travel to The US
El Universal ^ | Monday July 08, 2013 03:37 PM

Posted on 07/08/2013 5:02:13 PM PDT by drewh

EL UNIVERSAL Monday July 08, 2013 03:37 PM The White House warned on Monday that former CIA staff Edward Snowden may not be allowed to travel to any other country but the United States.

The statement came after the US citizen was recently offered asylum by Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Bolivia.

The US Government keeps in touch through relevant diplomatic channels with all countries Snowden could travel across or choose for his final destination, said White House's spokesperson Jay Carney, EFE reported.

Carney's statement has been the first official US reaction after Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Venezuela recently offered Snowden asylum.

Carney further explained there were sufficient legal arguments for Russia to expel Snowden to the United States, despite the lack of any extradition bilateral treaty.

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1 posted on 07/08/2013 5:02:13 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Someone tell this asshat that people in another country need not follow Obama’s delusions of grandeur.


2 posted on 07/08/2013 5:04:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: drewh

So what? So the Obama inJustice Department can give him what he deserves?

Who gives them what they deserve?


3 posted on 07/08/2013 5:04:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: drewh

They really think they are something.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 5:04:51 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: drewh

That’s funny. What arrogance.


5 posted on 07/08/2013 5:04:52 PM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: drewh

We’re starting to sound like the Soviet Union.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 5:06:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: drewh

WHAT? With his passport invalidated he can’t even board a plane headed this way!


7 posted on 07/08/2013 5:07:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: drewh

Kudos to any country telling the Obamadork and the gigolo to shove their threats up their collective smelly Obamas.

We think as little of these cretins as you do, rest of world.


8 posted on 07/08/2013 5:08:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: drewh

I don’t recall Snowden asking “May I...?”


9 posted on 07/08/2013 5:08:38 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: drewh

Shut up Obama.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 5:08:40 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: drewh

They’ve been issuing threats behind the scenes, for certain.
Recall the forced landing of the Bolivian president’s plane.


11 posted on 07/08/2013 5:10:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Enjoy your flight Edward!


12 posted on 07/08/2013 5:10:17 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

What would prevent Nicaragua, Venezuela or Bolivia from issuing Snowden a Passport and delivering it to him at the airport?

Methinks nothing would prevent that and Russia would honor it.

But might entering Russia on an American passport and leaving on one from another country violate some rule that Russia would enforce?

Only the lawyers know.


13 posted on 07/08/2013 5:10:17 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: Mr. K

Then only if Obie says “Simon says”.


14 posted on 07/08/2013 5:10:41 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: cripplecreek
If we were discussing any other fugitive, this boilerplate language would be recognized for what it is: standard legal instructions.

But because it is Magical Wonderboy, to whom rules and regulations do not apply the way they do to lesser mortals, these statements are being treated as if they were unprecedentedly unjust.

15 posted on 07/08/2013 5:12:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: drewh

Methinks the lady doth protest too much. This guy Snowden would have more than we realize on Obama, and could bring him down.


16 posted on 07/08/2013 5:12:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: InterceptPoint
Issuing him a passport would be a de facto grant of citizenship.

This would be different from issuing a visa, which would be a stickier matter for Russia than a passport.

17 posted on 07/08/2013 5:14:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kevmo

Probably should send him to club Gitmo.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha......thud


18 posted on 07/08/2013 5:15:58 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: drewh

Because of security repercussions I have mixed emotions about Snowden, but we are better off for him exposing Obama’s gubmint for what it is.

I hope he lands in a safe place; for too many years I’ve felt like the people in District 12 of “The Hunger Games” (being dumped on by those of the “Capitol District”).


19 posted on 07/08/2013 5:16:38 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: drewh

Snowden must have something of importance or is thought to have something, for the Washington mafia to be so wide awake and care so much about the boy’s well-being.


20 posted on 07/08/2013 5:18:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: drewh
My dad's old passport had that page in it:

It didn't necessarily mean you couldn't go to those places -- if you were willing to pay (or could evade) any legal penalties.

21 posted on 07/08/2013 5:20:30 PM PDT by x
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To: DoughtyOne
So what? So the Obama inJustice Department can give him what he deserves?

Who gives them what they deserve?

I think that he has a surprise .45 slug to the back of his head waiting for him wherever he lites. Obama is pi$$ed and when Obama gets pi$$ed lead flies.

22 posted on 07/08/2013 5:22:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: InterceptPoint

Laws? How quaint. If Vlad wants him to go, he’ll go, if Vlad wants him to stay he’ll stay.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 5:22:37 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: drewh
Once again the Obama admin fails to learn from past events. The only way Snowden can be prevented from going to Venezuela would be to attempt to have F15s intercept the plane in international airspace. This alone would infuriate the World community. If the pilot of the commercial plane carrying Snowden refused to comply with the order to land at a US controlled airfield what will Obama do? Will he have the plane shot at? I think Russia did that with the Koreans during Regan's term and some say that was the beginning of the end for the Soviet Union. Suffice to say here that Obama can't do a damned thing without losing what little remains of American credibility. Small ball is all this community organizer knows and it will be the demise of our Nation.
24 posted on 07/08/2013 5:29:11 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Don Corleone

We’ll see. I think Obama gets very angry when folks try to out him for what he has directed to take place.


25 posted on 07/08/2013 5:33:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: 7thOF7th

You seem to be extremely concerned about what the “World community” thinks.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 5:34:08 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: drewh
Al roads lead to Gitmo.
27 posted on 07/08/2013 5:38:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (This is a sarcasm tag for the retards unable to recognize sarcasm.)
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To: drewh

Whats bam bam gonna do? Shoot down a commercial jetliner? hardly


28 posted on 07/08/2013 5:38:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

29 posted on 07/08/2013 5:40:57 PM PDT by drewh
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To: wideawake

So you advocate shooting down a commerical jetliner and killing hundreds of innocents?

To catch a “29 yr old hacker”


30 posted on 07/08/2013 5:41:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wideawake
As a American first and a peace loving World citizen second, I do weigh global blowback in all of my analysis. One dimensional thinking by those on the left is the cause of much of this idiocy.
31 posted on 07/08/2013 5:41:24 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: driftdiver
Yet another "When did you stop beating your wife?" question from the Snowden fan club.

There's no need to shoot down a commercial airliner when you have plenty of planes to escort it.

32 posted on 07/08/2013 5:44:31 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Is that all you got?

pretty much like bam bam


33 posted on 07/08/2013 5:45:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 7thOF7th
So what is the blowback, exactly?

Lots of angry hypocrites fuming and thinking to themselves: "How dare the US enforce its own laws! We would never dare to enforce our own laws!"

Is the argument that the US should show weakness and roll out the red carpet for an indicted criminal?

34 posted on 07/08/2013 5:49:39 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: driftdiver

No one is suggesting shooting down a commercial airliner. You introduced this fantasy scenario.


35 posted on 07/08/2013 5:52:04 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Enforcing US laws outside the borders of US? What a great ideer! (I know, I know, it’s not yours, but your hero’s in the White Hut.)


36 posted on 07/08/2013 5:54:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: drewh

Damn straight!


37 posted on 07/08/2013 5:58:31 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Do you really think that US citizens are exempt from following US law when they are abroad?

A lot of tax attorneys would be very interested in hearing about your novel legal theories.

38 posted on 07/08/2013 5:59:48 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Forcing a commercial airliner down isn’t a heck of a lot different then shooting it down. Both are illegal under International law.


39 posted on 07/08/2013 6:02:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wideawake

OH, so according to you American citizens must drive on the right side of the road in England in order to obey US laws?

At this point, the US can ask other countries to extradite Snowden, as international treaties require. Your suggestion of intercepting flights, as happened in Vienna, violates international agreements signed by this country.


40 posted on 07/08/2013 6:02:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: drewh

So whom did Snowden betray? His father says he did not betray the people of the United States, he betrayed the government. I agree. More precisely, he betrayed the Obama Administration. But if you think that he betrayed the United States, then you are in effect telling us that you think the Obama Administration represents the interests of the United States. Sorry.

Very much apropos: Obambi is quoted on another concurrent thread: “The government is us, and we’re doing things right”


41 posted on 07/08/2013 6:09:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: driftdiver
I'm going to go out on a limb and say any passenger would agree that there is an enormous difference between the inconvenience of being rerouted to a different airport and being killed.

As far as international law is concerned, it is illegal to harbor a fugitive. If the commercial airline is sufficiently informed of the fugitive's status ahead of time, they have a legal obligation to comply.

It would be a violation of international law to escort an airliner without a due warning.

42 posted on 07/08/2013 6:09:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: TheZMan

Let Barry keep talking about Snowden. He might persuade a few Hispanics to vote against Democrats.


43 posted on 07/08/2013 6:10:48 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Kevmo

I agree. Why do you think Bathouse Barry is freaking out about Snowden? He doesn’t fear GOPers but he fears a young man who has all the evidence on Obama.


44 posted on 07/08/2013 6:14:52 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: wideawake

How’s Barry going to get his Secretary-General job at the United Nation if he intentionally shoots down a civilian airplane?


45 posted on 07/08/2013 6:18:14 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: drewh

Kind of a silly,futile move.Any of the filthy Fourth World scumbag nations that have offered him “asylum” can unilaterally declare him to be a citizen,give him a passport and voila!


46 posted on 07/08/2013 6:19:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: wideawake

” If the commercial airline is sufficiently informed of the fugitive’s status ahead of time, they have a legal obligation to comply.”

No they don’t.

“It would be a violation of international law to escort an airline without a due warning.”

It’s called kidnapping and a whole host of other things. Which is why we have extradition treaties to avoid the things which start wars.


47 posted on 07/08/2013 6:19:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: wideawake

Yet, we Americans voted for a criminal to occupy the White House, not just for 4 years, but for 8.


48 posted on 07/08/2013 6:20:44 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: wideawake

when you have plenty of planes to escort it.


Still jackbooting, I see.


49 posted on 07/08/2013 6:21:31 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: wideawake

You sound like one of Barry’s enforcers.


50 posted on 07/08/2013 6:22:39 PM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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