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Boehner to Obama: We want the individual mandate delayed for a year like the employer mandate was
Hotair ^ | 07/09/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 07/09/2013 1:24:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Populism is fun.

“I never thought I’d see the day when the White House, the president came down on the side of big business but left the American people out in the cold as far as his health care mandate is concerned,” Cantor told reporters after House Republicans met for their weekly closed-door meeting. “And we, as House Republicans, are not going to sit still for that.”…

“What the president did is outrageous,” Boehner said. “The idea that we’re going to give big businesses a break on Obamacare but we’re going to punish small businesses and families? It’s wrong. And we’ll have another vote. Count on it.”

Here’s the letter Boehner sent to O inquiring about whether there are any more “glitches” and surprises in O-Care’s implementation that the White House knows about but is keeping quiet for now. ObamaCare repeal votes are usually party-line (or almost party-line) but I’m intrigued by this one. With the midterms getting closer and Democrats getting nervous about their party’s signature boondoggle, maybe a vote demanding a modest one-year delay in the individual mandate will draw more than token support from them. That means nothing legislatively since Reid will certainly block the House bill in the Senate, but it’ll be spun by the GOP as a bipartisan vote of no confidence in ObamaCare generally. What’s a panicky Democrat who’s reluctant to humiliate Obama to do?

While they’re busy taking votes, here’s one more for them to take:

If Republicans were smart, they’d draft a bill based on the following mantra: “No Subsidization Without Verification.” That is, they should take a stand that nobody can receive subsidies through Obamacare before the government has a system in place that can independently verify the information as accurate.

If such a piece of legislation becomes law, it would effectively delay one of the central provisions of Obamacare indefinitely, because after more than three years, the government has not been able to figure out a way to meet the technological challenge of verification. As stated in the HHS rule published Friday: “After reviewing and considering the appropriate public comments and completing a technical analysis, we have concluded that the service described in the proposed rule is not feasible for implementation for the first year of operations. This service would involve a large amount of systems development on both the state and federal side, which cannot occur in time for October 1, 2013.”

Of course, Obama and his fellow Democrats would likely block such an attempt by Republicans. If they do so, they will be put into the position of explaining to the American people why they are willing to hand out a over a trillion dollars of taxpayer subsidies without proper procedures in place to prevent fraud.

Boehner mentions O waving bye-bye to ObamaCare’s anti-fraud provisions in the clip, but it seems to be a secondary line of attack after the populist individual/employer mandate talking point. It shouldn’t be. The average low-information voter might not be paying close enough attention to understand the distinctions between the two mandates. Everyone understands the point about verification, though. If we don’t leave people to the honor system in reporting their taxes, why should we leave them to it in demanding welfare for health insurance? That hits taxpayers in the gut. Not sure the mandate point does.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; boehner; deathpanels; defundobamacare; employermandate; individualmandate; mandate; obamacare; ohio; randsconcerntrolls; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; romneycare4you; zerocare

1 posted on 07/09/2013 1:24:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Weak. Defund it, then get back to the tanning bed.


2 posted on 07/09/2013 1:26:02 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: SeekAndFind

De-fund it you gutless turd.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 1:26:02 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Go back to sleep, Boehner. Don’t bother the adults.


4 posted on 07/09/2013 1:26:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

Another Boehner FAIL. He should demanding that the law be implemented on schedule, or totally repealed. No letting the Dems off the hook in the 2014 election!


5 posted on 07/09/2013 1:26:35 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

No letting Republicans off the hook in the 2014 election.

There.

I said it.


6 posted on 07/09/2013 1:29:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Delayed for a year? THEN WHAT?


7 posted on 07/09/2013 1:30:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s an idiot.

His response to Obama’s unconstitutional delay of part of the law is to ask (whiny begger) Obama to unconstitutionally delay another part.

These are legislative duties. Moron.

This country doesn’t need a legislature. Damn banana republic.


8 posted on 07/09/2013 1:30:12 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a violation of the US Constitution (AKA: contempt of congress) for POTUS to pick and choose which parts of legally passed legislation is worthy of enforcement by the executive branch. That is not within the purview of the powers provided to POTUS.

Boehner is a first among equals; all congress-critters are idiots.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 1:31:42 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Screw that. Destroy the entire friggin’ law, John.

Seriously, John, why not challenge the illegal DELAY of the employer mandate? This is the Assclown’s SIGNATURE legislation...remember the tweet “It’s. The. Law.”?

Make him suck it, John, and make him pay for it with historic losses that make 2010 look like a slap on the wrist.


10 posted on 07/09/2013 1:31:48 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ChildOfThe60s

whiny begger = Beohner , not Obama.


11 posted on 07/09/2013 1:31:48 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

Delaying the individual mandate just punts everything until after the 2014 election.

The only way the LIV’s will understand this law is to force them to comply with it.

The Democrats shoved ObamaCare down our throats, and it is time to shove it back up their ***.


12 posted on 07/09/2013 1:33:30 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ding Ding Ding!


13 posted on 07/09/2013 1:35:02 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Go have another drink and stay out of it. Delaying it only helps the dems for 2014.


14 posted on 07/09/2013 1:35:34 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

people to boehner. we want obamacare defunded. immediately.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 1:36:05 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: stanne

I’m as happy to hold the R’s accountable. Someone sure needs to primary Boehner!


16 posted on 07/09/2013 1:38:07 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: SeekAndFind

The HELL with postponement, WE WANT THE MFer repealled!


17 posted on 07/09/2013 1:40:07 PM PDT by Circle_Hook
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"His response to Obama’s unconstitutional delay of part of the law is to ask (whiny begger) Obama to unconstitutionally delay another part."

Worth repeating. What a joke our government has become. What joke Boehner and the RINOs are.

18 posted on 07/09/2013 1:41:00 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: Circle_Hook

RE: The HELL with postponement, WE WANT THE MFer repealled!

The House has voted to REPEAL Obamacare 37 times ( the latest one in a bill introduced by Michelle Bachmann ). They all suffered the same fate when it reached the Senate.

DEFUNDING would probably be the easier thing to do at this point.

Then, hope that the GOP takes over the Senate in 2014 and then re-introduce the repeal for the 38th time.

Of course, you will be met with Obama’s veto pen.


19 posted on 07/09/2013 1:42:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
DEFUND! REPEAL!

Get some nads Boehner and kill this bill that the majority of Americans dislike.

20 posted on 07/09/2013 1:44:32 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: SeekAndFind

I DON’T WANT ANY OF IT EVER, BONER, YOU STUPID, LITTLE JERK!


21 posted on 07/09/2013 1:44:58 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another stupid move by Bonehead and the Stupid Party.
He should make certain that BOTH the individual and employer mandates kick in BEFORE the 2014 election.
With a little luck and a bit of competence (maybe too much to hope for?) the Democrats would be massacred in 2014.


22 posted on 07/09/2013 1:49:55 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, delay the entire law.........forever.


23 posted on 07/09/2013 1:51:31 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: SeekAndFind
Boehner stumbling around like he's on our side again.
Meaningless harrumphs and bluster for the sheeple again.
Fake out all the way from this weasel Rino bastard.
24 posted on 07/09/2013 1:52:36 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure being Speaker is not the easiest job in the world.

But right now there should be just two items on Boehner’s to do list:

1. Kill the damned amnesty bill.
2. Defund nobama care.

Even a RINO, GOPer like him could do this with his eyes closed.


25 posted on 07/09/2013 2:07:02 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: nickcarraway

The article kept leading up to what the House Republicans could do, then on the rest of the story, which in each case was that it doesn’t matter anyway, the Senate and Obozo will put the kibbosh on whatever measure the House takes anyway.

In light of the amnesty bill being weaseled, and the fact that apparently even if the House does take a stand on Obozocare, it will be a futile gesture, I’m wondering, what is the point? To try to mitigate conservative anger when the amnesty bill leaves the House, is “reconciled” with the Senate bill, and passed? By saying, “well, at least we tried to stand up for you re Obozocare and the individual mandate”? When not Congress nor the Supreme Court has been able to stop this juggernaut to date?


26 posted on 07/09/2013 2:09:05 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: samadams2000

Exactly. Defund it Bonehead!


27 posted on 07/09/2013 2:16:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: SeekAndFind

Boner and other Republicans should be explaining how Obama postponed the employer mandate to avoid an 2014 election disaster for Dims. This is a golden opportunity to again point out the harm Obamacare will cause, but all he can come up with is to ask that the individual mandate also be postponed?


28 posted on 07/09/2013 2:34:28 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind
No delay.

Either kill the whole thing or let it go as scheduled while chaos results.

It will be Obama's and Pelosi's and Reid's chaos.

Let it be!

29 posted on 07/09/2013 2:35:52 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boehner is the Elmer Fudd of the House.

Defund this Marxist monstrosity and shut down the government if needed to force a vote in the Senate.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 2:45:59 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind
RomneyCARE for all, courtesy of the GOP.



31 posted on 07/09/2013 2:50:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

“What the president did is outrageous,” Boehner said. “The idea that we’re going to give big businesses a break on Obamacare but we’re going to punish small businesses and families? It’s wrong. And we’ll have another vote. Count on it.”

Another vote on what? The damned thing was passed already.

Why don’t you put Barrack on notice and inform him that the law stands as is....

Or is this a living document, still going through embryo and evolution???

Get Effing real. You ain’t got nothing to vote on.

What you do got is the power to force this joker to follow the law. The same law he was so in favor of and is enamored with for it being ascribed to and named after him.

BOEHNER! YOU PUSSY! DO D—DAMNED JOB!!!

Flippin flake.

Sorry, I’ll send you a box of Kleenex...


32 posted on 07/09/2013 2:56:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

here it is in a nutshell...

and this will piss off every damn one of you “Roberts is a traitor” types on this here forum...

fubo is delaying implementation for one reason..

once the tax is appealed (2014 until fubo’s little game changer) the tax and “penalty”(which was never a penalty and was always a tax, read the bill, all 3000 pages of it)are found unconstitutional, the whole thing unravels like a cheap rope.....

he is keeping it alive for another year, hoping one of the conservative or federalist judges retires or dies...

the roberts ruling was not a blessing for fubocare, it was a carefully written ruling that would end it once and for all, and prevent this kind of crap from ever happening again....

if one of the conservative or federalist justices suddenly goes away, then i would look for foul play..

and I can finally say to all you naysayers..

I TOLD YOU SO......


33 posted on 07/09/2013 3:17:01 PM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The S**thead of the House of Representatives opens his mouth. As usual, a giant turd comes forth. This guy is not even smart enough to realize that delaying implementation of any part of Obamacare will only serve to help Obama and the Dems in the 2014 election. To say that Boehner is unbelievable would be a huge understatement.


34 posted on 07/09/2013 3:38:01 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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