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Pakistan : Report says US Bin Laden raid 'an act of war'
Aljazeera ^ | Last Modified: 09 Jul 2013 09:04 | Asad Hashim

Posted on 07/09/2013 5:42:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

USA Today had a very different Title for the Report

Pakistan's Mea Culpa

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Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit leaked the report on Monday, The unit's Josh Berstein filed this report

The unilateral decision by the US to launch a military operation to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani territory constituted "an act of war", a Pakistani government investigation has found.

The report of the Abbottabad Commission, which investigated the circumstances around the raid and how the al-Qaeda leader came to live in the country for nine years without apparently being detected, was exclusively released by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit on Monday.

The report of the commission, formed in June 2011 to probe the circumstances around the killing of bin Laden by US forces in a unilateral raid on the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, had earlier been suppressed by the Pakistani government.

The raid illustrated Washington's "contemptuous disregard of Pakistan’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity in the arrogant certainty of […] unmatched military might", the report concluded in its "Findings" section.

In the same section, the report also details the "comprehensive failure of Pakistan to detect the presence of Bin Laden on its territory for almost a decade".

The report draws on testimony from more than 200 witnesses, including members of Bin Laden's family, Pakistan's then spy chief, senior ministers in the government and officials at every level of the military, bureaucracy and security services.

Scathing report

The commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence" leading to "collective failures" that allowed both Bin Laden to escape detection, and the US to be able to violate Pakistani sovereignty by carrying out an attack on its soil without the knowledge of the military or the government.


(Excerpt) Read more at aljazeera.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; binladen; osama; osamabinladen; pakistan; usama; vinladen; wot
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21 posted on 07/09/2013 6:08:36 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: nickcarraway

“Well, can anyone deny that staging a military invasion is an act of war?”

Technically “an invasion”, but hardly based in reality. A legal incursion to get a war criminal would be more accurate.

“it was an act of war.”

Again, technically.

So you were against the raid to kill Bin Laden?


22 posted on 07/09/2013 6:08:46 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: TADSLOS

Yes,....very revealing ...


23 posted on 07/09/2013 6:11:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If it was an “act of war” it was so created by the total and legitimate mistrust of Pakistan, by the U.S., by virtue of its intent, or its neglect, or its incompetence in (a) not knowing Bin Laden was in plain sight in Pakistan and (b) the U.S. having NOT obtained that information from Pakistan.

Under the circumtances, “innocent” or not, Pakistan could not be trusted with the raid information until after the fact.

If Pakistan was really and truly merely neglectfully, incompetently innocent, then how is it the Pakistani doctor who helped the U.S. nail down Bin Laden’s location is considered to be traitor to Pakistan?


24 posted on 07/09/2013 6:11:25 PM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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To: vette6387
The World is such a complicated place now.....

Guess we can count on the oceans to protect us!

25 posted on 07/09/2013 6:12:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: nickcarraway
Well, can anyone deny that staging a military invasion is an act of war? If any country did this to us, we'd certainly view it as such. Actually, how could anyone deny it's an act of war.

Some decades ago, representatives from the Irish Republican Army would do fund-raising in the US in Irish-American communities. Visualize the reaction if British SAS commandos staged a hit on the IRA guys on US soil.

26 posted on 07/09/2013 6:13:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ain't skeerd... feh
27 posted on 07/09/2013 6:16:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“The unilateral decision by the US to launch a military operation to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani territory constituted “an act of war”, a Pakistani government investigation has found.”

Uh-oh! Does that mean that Pakistan is going to declare war on the US of A?

Or will they complain to the impotent international criminal court in Belgium?


28 posted on 07/09/2013 6:17:30 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: nickcarraway

It is an act of war.

And I wish they’d declare war on us. It would be good to wipe out the insane islamofascists ruling that part of the world.

I also think its an act of war against us to harbor bin laden.

And no I don’t believe for a moment they weren’t.


29 posted on 07/09/2013 6:19:23 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: nickcarraway

IMHO, giving Bin Laden shelter all those years was akin to an act of war. Don’t buy for a second the premise that they didn’t know he was there.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 6:23:54 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We made a deal with the devil so we could invade Afghanistan. The problem is that while we have troops in Afghanistan we still need the devil.

Pakistan is fighting the P-Taliban in their country. They are supporting the A-Taliban in Afghanistan. The Afghan government is supporting the P-Taliban and fighting the A-Taliban. The P-Taliban and A-Taliban are fighting each other for territory. Afghan and Pakistan troops have been squaring off along the border. And we are supplying both of them with money. We are also negotiating with the A-Taliban.

What a cluster.


31 posted on 07/09/2013 6:27:24 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They’re just now figuring out that it was an act of war?


32 posted on 07/09/2013 6:27:51 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let them declare war- and as soon as they do, we nuke their capital right off the bat.


33 posted on 07/09/2013 6:30:22 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So, Bin Laden thought he was at war with us, and Pakistan called what we did in response an “act of war”.

So, why does Obama want to try those nice boys down in GTMO in civilian courts, when the people whose opinion he seems to value highly are pretty confident that they are at war with us?


34 posted on 07/09/2013 6:35:31 PM PDT by married21
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Billthedrill
Ernest. I think Bill's closing sentence in #11, described what I would have wrote:

"The brutal truth is that the raid would not have been necessary
were the Pakistani government in control of its own
territory and its own intelligence assets. It isn't."
35 posted on 07/09/2013 6:36:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pakistan knowingly harbored a known international criminal placing both their military and intelligence services in conflict with the international community.

By removing the obstacle to peace between the Pakistan Nation and the rest of the law abiding nations of the world, the US did a service of restoring their good standing without violation of their so called government services. For the Paki's to feel that their sovereignty was broached by the US raid, they would have to also admit that they sought to be an outlaw state such as Iran. Of course, their development of Nukes did just that years before and only because of Bin Laden did they actually become somewhat reinstated into the international community.

36 posted on 07/09/2013 6:54:22 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Uh-oh! Does that mean that Pakistan is going to declare war on the US of A?

By sponsoring the 9/11 attacks, Pakistan went to war with the US. We simply chose to turn a blind eye to Pakistani complicity. It's as if, in response, to Pearl Harbor, we had said "Never mind".

37 posted on 07/09/2013 7:05:54 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
the US to launch a military operation to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani territory constituted "an act of war"

Does this mean we can stop sending them money?

38 posted on 07/09/2013 7:06:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is a dangerous extremist.. Greenfield)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We know how you feel, Pakistan. 0bama is waging war on the United States, too.. only without the stealth helicopters.


39 posted on 07/09/2013 7:11:36 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Nothing gets by these Pokeystawn guys. They’re smart.

Ya know, I think they're trying to provoke us or something declaring our killing Bin Laden "an act of war." That's tantamount to admitting they were providing him safe harbor.

Assuming that's the case, any President with a pair of testicles would have Predator Drones raining fire down on them .... but since we have this panty-waste muslim ass kisser in the White House no doubt an apology followed by repeated bowing is forthcoming.

40 posted on 07/09/2013 7:16:07 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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