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State Parks pricing out the public
SFGate.com ^ | 07/09/13 | SanFransisco Gate Staff

Posted on 07/09/2013 8:31:48 PM PDT by Route395

In its new mission to extract every dollar possible out of park visitors, California State Parks is pricing itself out of reach of many, starting with young families, city kids and young adults. So is the Department of Fish and Wildlife, which charges the highest-priced fishing licenses in America and yet is providing the public with less than ever this summer. Ten years ago, it cost $2 to park and $12 to camp at state parks. Now it’s $10 to park and $35 and up to camp. State Parks wants to add electronic self-pay stations, where you pay by credit card. That would allow them to add new pay sites without adding staff, and also add specialty fees, such as for “premium campsites.”

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"The Department of Fish and Wildlife plants fewer trout than ever, despite a legislative mandate to put one of every $3 into trout plants. This year, the cost of a license was jacked up to $45.03 and $59.97 with a two-rod stamp."...This is all by design...The liberal rat bastards in Sacramento don't want you fishing! It's to cruel to the fish! These stupid sons of b#$%hes!!!
1 posted on 07/09/2013 8:31:48 PM PDT by Route395
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To: Route395

And don’t step on the grass.

Remember, this is YOUR park.


2 posted on 07/09/2013 8:32:50 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SJackson

Ping.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 8:33:55 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Route395

You could put $5 in the box on the honor system and camp on the Gardiner River in Montana.

Stunning, absolutely stunning.


4 posted on 07/09/2013 8:42:01 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Route395

The good news is, illegals stay for free.


5 posted on 07/09/2013 8:43:33 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: mylife

Beautiful country, isn’t it?


6 posted on 07/09/2013 8:44:45 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Route395
California State Parks is pricing itself out of reach of many, starting with young families, city kids and young adults.

Usually they start with women and minorities, I wonder what happened.

$35 bucks is not that much less than the Motel 6, and with the Motel 6, you get a romm with a bed, not just the ground. I wonder what the homeless camps out near Davis charge?

7 posted on 07/09/2013 8:45:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Migraine
The good news is, illegals stay for free.

...and grow cash crops.

8 posted on 07/09/2013 8:45:48 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Route395

In Washington state injuns fish for free. If elizabeth fauxahontas warren can be an injun so can I ;-)


9 posted on 07/09/2013 8:46:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Looks like rates are now $14


10 posted on 07/09/2013 8:47:46 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Unbelievable!...I’d rather travel the extra distance to Montana and Idaho where they appreciate people who enjoy the outdoors....AND their dollars!


11 posted on 07/09/2013 8:48:01 PM PDT by Route395
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To: TADSLOS
I swear I had a spiritual experience on the Gardiner river under a full moon and the influence of really good beer. ☺
12 posted on 07/09/2013 8:49:01 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

:~)


13 posted on 07/09/2013 8:49:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Route395

Glacier is incredible.


14 posted on 07/09/2013 8:49:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Route395

I recently went to Sequoia National Park - it was $20 just to get in.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 8:50:37 PM PDT by Overwatcher
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To: TADSLOS

One must camp on Jenny Lake in The Tetons as well.


16 posted on 07/09/2013 8:52:34 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Haven’t been to Jenny Lake yet. It’s on my list though.


17 posted on 07/09/2013 8:56:38 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Route395

And you gotta lay out under the stars on the eastern side of Montana just to absorb the big sky.


18 posted on 07/09/2013 8:57:19 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: TADSLOS

It is like something from a dream.


19 posted on 07/09/2013 8:57:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: rockrr
If Mel Brooks can be an Indian so can I!!!
20 posted on 07/09/2013 9:01:59 PM PDT by Route395
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To: mylife

I belong to the Montana State page on Facebook. Geez, they post some beautiful pics. Only been to Little Big Horn. Would love to get into those mountains. Maybe some day.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 9:04:48 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Route395; rockrr

Don’t forget Ward Churchill!


22 posted on 07/09/2013 9:05:31 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mylife

http://www.bigskyfishing.com/


23 posted on 07/09/2013 9:06:26 PM PDT by Route395
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To: TADSLOS

Take the boat across to hike on the mountains.
There are blackberry’s all along the trail in late aug.

Got stuck in Buffalo Wy by a snow storm in Big Horn National forest on Aug 27.

It was stunning when the storm cleared.
Chaparral in bloom in the snow under the moon in aug

The smell was incredible.


24 posted on 07/09/2013 9:07:53 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: beaversmom

See #24


25 posted on 07/09/2013 9:08:43 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Route395

Awesomeness.

Winter would suck major ***, but late summer is incredible.


26 posted on 07/09/2013 9:11:33 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Winter is a whole different ball game...


27 posted on 07/09/2013 9:16:21 PM PDT by Route395
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To: mylife
Got stuck in Buffalo Wy by a snow storm in Big Horn National forest on Aug 27.

That's funny! Wow! Aug 27! Was just talking about Buffalo, Wyoming today if you can believe it! Stayed there on the way to Little Big Horn. Dear friend had mentioned about Ten Sleep, Wyoming which I guess is west of there. Love small towns! Can't remember small Eastern towns when I lived in Maine as a kid, but love small Western towns.

28 posted on 07/09/2013 9:16:55 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mylife

Took son up to Custer, SD for BSA camp over weekend. Wyoming has got to be close second for big sky.


29 posted on 07/09/2013 9:19:02 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Buffalo is a working cowboy town.


30 posted on 07/09/2013 9:19:04 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Route395

Why should we pay at all? The park land across the street from me was donated to the state with the caveat that people can not be charged admission. Except, they charge for “parking”. There is nowhere to legally park within practical walking distance of park amenities.

We used to buy an Empire Passport every year, but now it is too expensive and you get fewer and fewer services for your money. My yard is a park, a part of the same original parcel donated the state. I don’t need their park.


31 posted on 07/09/2013 9:19:58 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: beaversmom

I took my son and brother on the grand western tour when he was about 11.

We had a blast.


32 posted on 07/09/2013 9:20:52 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Oh okay. Didn’t know that. Just stayed at cabin at campground, http://www.deerparkrv.com/ for one night. Nice little town.


33 posted on 07/09/2013 9:21:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Overwatcher

I recently went to Sequoia National Park..”

Three years ago we went to the Grand Canyon in Arizona. They were offering an ID card for seniors and everyone traveling with me got in free. Also was good at other Federal parks although I never checked to see which ones. Makes me wonder if it’s still valid.


34 posted on 07/09/2013 9:24:22 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: beaversmom

When we were waiting out the snow, the place we were eating at was filling with cowboys right off the working trail.
It may be different now, but it was a working town when I was there, prolly 11 years ago?


35 posted on 07/09/2013 9:24:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Oh I bet. How fun! Did you camp out?

I’d *love* to see the East. I’d love to see every state, but the West is in my heart...been here since 1975.

Are you the one that told me about Big Bend a few years ago? Think we might have talked about Utah, too. :) Maybe you, maybe not.


36 posted on 07/09/2013 9:24:40 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mylife

Oh it’s probably the same. Time kinda stands still in those little towns. On our way back home, stopped in Wheatland and Chugwater, WY and took some pics. :)


37 posted on 07/09/2013 9:26:59 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mylife

Should clarify...on our way back home from SD this last time...


38 posted on 07/09/2013 9:28:49 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
I need to get up to Idaho.
The Sail from my first submarine landed there in Arco Idaho LOL Weird huh?


39 posted on 07/09/2013 9:29:41 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Very neat! Is that a rest stop? Where is that?


40 posted on 07/09/2013 9:30:34 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Route395

Hosti gezen in dayne lebn? They darker than us! Woof! ;-)


41 posted on 07/09/2013 9:31:14 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: beaversmom

Don’t think I told you about Big Bend.
I have never been there yet.


42 posted on 07/09/2013 9:31:46 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Looking up about Arco, ID on Wiki:

Population of 995 at 2010 census.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arco,_Idaho


43 posted on 07/09/2013 9:31:57 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

All I know is it is Arco Idaho LOL
How did the sail of the Devilboat get there? LOL


44 posted on 07/09/2013 9:32:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Oh okay. That must have been another FReeper. Got to talking about National Parks out west a couple of years ago on a thread and a TX FReeper said Big Bend was a great National Park to see.


45 posted on 07/09/2013 9:33:19 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Yer right, it is just a rest stop.
I have know idea what the back story is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hawkbill_%28SSN-666%29


46 posted on 07/09/2013 9:35:19 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: beaversmom

Big Bend could be rather dangerous these days.


47 posted on 07/09/2013 9:36:35 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife
How did the sail of the Devilboat get there? LOL

That is a mystery for sure. Would be neat to find out the story on that. I guess you could always contact the City Hall in Arco and find out.

Here's a pic I took on the trip to MT to or from Little Big Horn on the highway:


48 posted on 07/09/2013 9:39:26 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Idaho science center


49 posted on 07/09/2013 9:39:33 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: beaversmom

Not the sort of thing you expect to see up there LOL


50 posted on 07/09/2013 9:40:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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