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BREAKING Knife Story: Asiana Passengers Almost Burned To Death Waiting For Box Cutters
The Truth About Knives ^ | July 8, 2013 | Chris Dumm

Posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:21 AM PDT by george76

Reports indicate that passengers aboard crashed Asiana Flight 214 were trapped by their seatbelts while the Boeing 777 burned around them. If only someone had a knife to cut them free, even a small pocketknife…

But nobody had any kind of knife, because knives aren’t allowed on flights that land or originate in the United States. So what happened?

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police officers on the ground threw utility knives up to crew members so they could cut the seat belts of those who remained trapped as rescue crews removed the injured.

You read that correctly: passengers were trapped in the burning wreckage, and they had to wait until police showed up with box cutters to cut them free from their seats.

Thanks to the TSA’s absurd ‘No Knives On Planes’ rule, hysterically defended by the Air Waitress union, nobody on flight 214 had a sharp rescue tool to cut them free. How many of them would have burned alive if police and firefighters hadn’t showed up within minutes? What would the Air Waitresses have said then? You’ll notice that they’re saying nothing right now.

(Excerpt) Read more at thetruthaboutknives.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: asiana; asiana214; flight214; rescue; tsa
San Francisco Fire Department Chief Joanne Hayes-White said the two who died were found on "the exterior" of the plane...

http://www.wset.com/story/22773388/update-at-tail-end-of-trans-pacific-flight-terror

1 posted on 07/10/2013 7:53:21 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Some scuttlebutt that one of the 2 exterior victims was actually run over by a fire engine responding to the call.
Anything further on that?


2 posted on 07/10/2013 7:58:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Why can’t people just get out of the way of emergency vehicles?


3 posted on 07/10/2013 8:01:35 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: george76

I wonder why so many were unable to unfasten their seatbelts.
That seems to me to be one of if not the first absolutely mandatory safety issues; that seatbelts can be unfastened in a crash.


4 posted on 07/10/2013 8:02:03 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Did you see the videos of the trucks arriving? They drove around the airplane for almost five minutes before doing anything and then they were mostly ineffective. I never did see any truck shooting foam into the burning engine on the right side and when the cabin burned they shot foam over the top of the airplane instead of into the open doors.

With all the driving around while people were trying to evacuate it would be hard not to get run over. The firemen didn’t even get out of the trucks to help anyone.


5 posted on 07/10/2013 8:06:49 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: george76
Thanks for posting this. Interesting website!
(The Benchmade 300 flipper review by Chris Dunn is a fun read)
6 posted on 07/10/2013 8:08:26 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: RWGinger

“I wonder why so many were unable to unfasten their seatbelts.”

Thought about that too. It’s designed to be so easy a lib can figure it out. My keychain has a small cutter so I’m always prepared.


7 posted on 07/10/2013 8:12:28 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I believe autopsy results are still pending.


8 posted on 07/10/2013 8:12:52 AM PDT by dmd25
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To: Sequoyah101

I believe those same videos showed passengers evacuating the plane with their carryon baggage. How stupid is that?


9 posted on 07/10/2013 8:13:14 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: george76
Dang, I mispelled Chris Dumm's name...sorry about that.
(Still fixing things. Something reset my video card and all display settings and I can't read the print. The last couple of changes and one more restart should fix it...maybe)
10 posted on 07/10/2013 8:14:55 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: Big Giant Head

Ping


11 posted on 07/10/2013 8:15:20 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: george76
Instead of violating EVERYONES RIGHTS, why not deport mudslimes, and forbid their travel!

No more public molestations. No more terrorism. Win Win!

12 posted on 07/10/2013 8:19:54 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: george76

Airplane seatbelt buckles are profoundly simple.

How can they possibly not unlatch?


13 posted on 07/10/2013 8:26:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sequoyah101

It’s a damn good thing this wasn’t worse than it was.

TSA apparently made a mess of things, refusing access to outside rescue forces until they were screened and cleared, and Customs not allowing victims off the airport until they had approved them. Not really all that surprising if you have been exposed to TSA incompetence on a regular basis, especially from the weekend “C” shifters.

If this had been worse, hundreds could have died due to government ineptitude.

This is the first real accident of the TSA Age,


14 posted on 07/10/2013 8:28:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Sadly now a days it is not so easy to pick out the muslim extremist as they are coming in all colors of crazy.


15 posted on 07/10/2013 8:32:34 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Sequoyah101

16 posted on 07/10/2013 8:35:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Instead of violating EVERYONES RIGHTS

That's the whole point.

17 posted on 07/10/2013 8:36:34 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: All
Surely a "TSA safe" version of this could be made part of the on-board safety equipment for the cabin crew?

Costs all of $5

18 posted on 07/10/2013 8:41:06 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Why can’t people just get out of the way of emergency vehicles?”

Uh... when you’ve just been in a crash, thrown on the ground upon impact, with two broken legs; that could be an impossibility. \likely scenario


19 posted on 07/10/2013 8:42:03 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: george76

I’m calling BS on this. All reports indicate that the airplane was completely evacuated within 90 seconds, before the police would have had a chance to get there. Trying to cut through one of those nylon seatbelts with a utility knife, much less a pocket knife, would have taken longer than that.


20 posted on 07/10/2013 8:42:12 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

CHINESE FIRE DRILL


21 posted on 07/10/2013 8:45:22 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: az_gila

KNIFE BAD! BAAAAAAD! (bleated the sheeple)


22 posted on 07/10/2013 8:45:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Twinkie

they should walk on their butt cheeks while wearing proper reflective vests! /sarc


23 posted on 07/10/2013 8:51:58 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

A bit off topic but in the early ‘70s (73 if memory serves) there was a mid ar collision on approach to NAS Moffett Field between a VP-47 P-3C and a NASA aircraft. Both planes subsequently came to rest as smoking messes on the municipal golf course just off the approach end to the airfield. There was miraculously one survivor, a junior enlisted aircrew man that had been an aft observer on the P-3. He was found later under a parachute canopy that had deployed as a result of the impact. He had been run over by one of the crash-rescue trucks responding to the mess. As a result of being run over, his spine was severed and was, presumably still is a paraplegic. Stuff like that happens in the chaos of an aircraft disaster. It wasn’t me thank God, but it was one of our aircraft and the kid was a shipmate.


24 posted on 07/10/2013 8:57:29 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Afterguard

They were all shipmates. Hadn’t thought about that in a long time.


25 posted on 07/10/2013 9:01:22 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: george76

boxcutters on planes is the reason the TSA exists


26 posted on 07/10/2013 9:06:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: max americana

When I have time I will try to research it.
I simply can’t believe something as simplee seatbelt fastening and un fastening is not addressed as a basic safety requirement.

I did consider maybe in a panic people wouldn’t remember how to pull the latch but responders could

VERY strange happening


27 posted on 07/10/2013 9:09:09 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Twinkie

I am pretty sure that was sarcasm.
Or at least I took it as sarcasm


28 posted on 07/10/2013 9:10:20 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: rawcatslyentist

its funny how after sandy hook they scream “gun control” despite the fact illegally attained guns were used. Yet you never hear them yell “muslim control” after boston, or fort hood or 9-11 or the ‘93 bombings or the failed times square bomber or the failed underwear bomber....


29 posted on 07/10/2013 9:16:11 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: anoldafvet
I believe those same videos showed passengers evacuating the plane with their carryon baggage. How stupid is that?

Not stupid at all, knowing that anything left behind would never be seen again either because of fire or theft. Would you leave your laptop or other valuables (that you were loath to leave in your checked luggage) behind if there was any chance of getting them out with you? Suppose you had prescription drugs or other medical supplies with you? Do you think the airline or TSA would replace them?

30 posted on 07/10/2013 9:28:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: anoldafvet

I’d probably grab my bag. It’s easy enough to carry, isn’t going to cost anybody else time, and I’d rather not have my stuff burned.

Of course, I carry my stuff under my seat, not in the overhead.


31 posted on 07/10/2013 10:05:54 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: az_gila

There should be a pocket on the seat belt with one of those in it.

Quick, PATENT it!!! Then get it written into FAA regulations.

That's how it's done these days. (sigh)

32 posted on 07/10/2013 10:24:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

That’s them! I didn’t know they got out of the trucks to pose for a picture!


33 posted on 07/10/2013 11:22:11 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: anoldafvet

Well, maybe not as stupid as it may seem. Without papers they would have been sunk.

You see, our immigration laws are only “broken” for obastard’s people. They still apply and are enforced for just about everyone else.

Law enforcement is all subject to prosecutorial discretion now you know. Wet backs and black panthers always go free. Customs agents, whites and others are jailed and maybe eventually charged with something.


34 posted on 07/10/2013 11:25:12 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: tcrlaf

I guess the TSA was looking for any dogs to shoot before they got through.


35 posted on 07/10/2013 12:00:34 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: DuncanWaring
Airplane seatbelt buckles are profoundly simple.

How can they possibly not unlatch?

Real hard with busted clavicles...spinal swelling and rupture...yer guts all twisted...and prolly broken arms,wrists, and fingers, too....I reckon????

36 posted on 07/10/2013 1:11:07 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: dasboot

If the passengers on the aircraft were that badly injured, there would have been a lot more than two dead.


37 posted on 07/11/2013 6:12:14 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RWGinger

I would guess that the impact jarred some seats, jamming the belts and buckles.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 1:59:12 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/12/us-usa-crash-victim-idUSBRE96B0R220130712


39 posted on 07/12/2013 6:30:38 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: az_gila
Costs all of $5

You can probably get them at the $1 store. That means they are made in China for about 25 cents.
40 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:16 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Unconscious on the ground?


41 posted on 07/13/2013 6:01:40 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." ¬óR.C. Sproul)
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