Skip to comments.Sanford Police Prepare for Zimmerman Riots
Posted on 07/10/2013 11:02:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
On Monday, the Broward County Sheriff's Office in Florida released a public service announcement attempting to convince young people not to riot in case George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, was acquitted of second-degree murder. That likelihood remains high, thanks to the fact that the prosecution itself was weak and pushed forward by a breathless media desperate for a racial hot point to drive ratings.
The sheriff's office announced that it was "working closely with the Sanford Police Department and other local law enforcement agencies" on a "response plan in anticipation of the verdict." Sheriff Scott Israel appeared in a video alongside a rapping duet of two teenagers, one a Hispanic female and another a black male, who tell the public, "Raise your voice, and not your hands! We need to stand together as one, no cuffs, no guns. ... I know your patience will be tested, but law enforcement has your back!"
Despite the passions elicited in both the black community and the white community over Zimmerman, one fact remains clear: Americans are far more concerned with the possibility of a minority riot over Zimmerman's acquittal than they are with the possibility of a white riot over Zimmerman's conviction. That's not unreasonable. Al Sharpton of MSNBC, among others, has threatened civil disobedience in Sanford before, and Americans still remember the Crown Heights riots of 1991, the Los Angeles riots of 1992, the St. Petersburg riots of 1996, the Cincinnati riots of 2001 and the Oakland riots of 2009, among others.
Why, exactly, are Americans so seemingly complacent about the notion of another riot over a case about a Hispanic man shooting a black teenager, presumably in self-defense? It's thanks to a media that continues to maintain the fiction that every case allegedly involving a non-black suspect and a black victim is a test case for American racism. The media pretended that the case against George Zimmerman was unshakeable; it simply wasn't. There wasn't just reasonable doubt about whether Zimmerman engaged in self-defense when he shot Martin, there was virtually zero countervailing credible evidence to the proposition that he shot Martin in self-defense. Furthermore, there was literally zero evidence for the proposition that the shooting was racially motivated, or that the police didn't initially arrest Zimmerman thanks to their institutional racism.
Yet the story has played out in the media as a controversial example of America's continuing love affair with racism. The media's narrative went like this: white man shoots black man after racially profiling him, and racist local officers let him off the hook. That's a lie, but it's become widely accepted in the black community, where 72 percent of blacks polled thought that Zimmerman was definitely or probably guilty (compared with just 32 percent of nonblack Americans), and 73 percent thought he would have been arrested initially if he had shot a white person (compared with 35 percent of nonblack Americans).
Sadly, an incredible number of blacks feel that the system is biased against them: While most white people don't believe that the criminal justice system is racist (49 percent believe it is), a whopping 84 percent of blacks in America believe it is.
And so each case with racial overtones becomes another reminder to blacks that the system is out to get them, particularly when largely white media commentators wrongly paint a case as race-based. This means that anytime the media labels a case race-based, Americans are forced to accept the ugly calculus that acquittal, while proper, may result in riots based on perceived institutional wrongs.
The best preparation would be to put Angela Corrie out to address the mobs.
They wouldn’t be so stupid as to ruin what little value they still have in their ‘hoods, would they?
Count on it.
Not necessarily the case. They would push the story even if it cost them ratings. The big issue is ideological, not financial.
I expect better of Fox. Watching America Live just now and Megyn Kelly’s replacement is talking to a man who said GZ continued to pursue TM after being asked to stop. If it isn’t clear by this point that GZ did as the operator said and quit following TM at that time, then the outcome is uncertain to me. But the two talked as though it was fact that he was disobeying police in continuing to follow him.
Do you mean Angela Corey the State Attorney, and why?
Doesn’t Florida lead the nation in CCPs? Prolly not the best place to riot.
My understanding is that he was NOT talking to the police, but to the neighborhood watch person,
and she said “we don’t need you to do that”,
after which he headed back to his vehicle.
Martin circled around and ambushed him, sucker punched him, vice-straddled him, was suffocating him while wailing on him with the other hand.
They bought running shoes?
They’ll probably have success if the tamp the rioting down immediately and don’t run away with their tails between their legs like the craven bastards in the LAPD did in 1992.
It should read :
Courtesy of Eric Holder & Co...
He was talking to non-emergency police. GZ was community watch leader.
Some blacks will see what they want to see no matter what. As a white man, I’m apparently not “qualified” to speak on matters of racial discrimination, but Zimmerman is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. That works for all people regardless of skin color.
I want Zimmerman to be imprisoned (or executed) if he truly stalked and murdered Trayvon. I believe people are capable of seeing beyond race and judging the case on its merits. I trust the jury to reach the right decision. They may judge wrongly, but I don’t know of a better alternative than trial by one’s peers.
That said, I just don’t think the state has made its case. Reasonable doubt has to go to the defendant—not the state.
We need to have more stand your ground advocates.
Worst part is the presidents intermeddling, declaring “if he had a son”. Jut race baiting at the presidential level without addressing the facts. Then he pushed the suppression agenda.
If there are riots, he contributed to them. He promoted them.
I wonder if they are getting more “help” from the DOJ.
Tell me something please. Where do you go when the law breaks the law and wipes with the Constitution? Who do you call when a cop violates your civil rights or the law? Sure has been a lot of that kind of thing going on lately.
Just on Rush today.
Document: DOJ Community Relations Service was deployed to Sanford, FL, to provide technical assistance for the preparation of possible marches and rallies related to the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old African American male.
Washington, D.C. Judicial Watch announced today that has obtained documents in response to local, state, and federal records requests revealing that a little-known unit of the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Community Relations Service (CRS), was deployed to Sanford, FL, following the Trayvon Martin shooting to help organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman.
JW filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requested with the DOJ on April 24, 2012; 125 pages were received on May 30, 2012. JW administratively appealed the request on June 5, 2012, and received 222 pages more on March 6, 2013. According to the documents:
March 25 27, 2012, CRS spent $674.14 upon being deployed to Sanford, FL, to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African- American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.
March 25 28, 2012, CRS spent $1,142.84 in Sanford, FL to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.
March 30 April 1, 2012, CRS spent $892.55 in Sanford, FL to provide support for protest deployment in Florida.
March 30 April 1, 2012, CRS spent an additional $751.60 in Sanford, FL to provide technical assistance to the City of Sanford, event organizers, and law enforcement agencies for the march and rally on March 31.
April 3 12, 2012, CRS spent $1,307.40 in Sanford, FL to provide technical assistance, conciliation, and onsite mediation during demonstrations planned in Sanford.
April 11-12, 2012, CRS spent $552.35 in Sanford, FL to provide technical assistance for the preparation of possible marches and rallies related to the fatal shooting of a 17 year old African American male. expenses for employees to travel, eat, sleep?
From a Florida Sunshine Law request filed on April 23, 2012, JW received thousands of pages of emails on April 27, 2012, in which was found an email by Miami-Dade County Community Relations Board Program Officer Amy Carswell from April 16, 2012: Congratulations to our partners, Thomas Battles, Regional Director, and Mildred De Robles, Miami-Dade Coordinator and their co-workers at the U.S. Department of Justice Community Relations Service for their outstanding and ongoing efforts to reduce tensions and build bridges of understanding and respect in Sanford, Florida following a news article in the Orlando Sentinel about the secretive peacekeepers.
In reply to that message, Battles said: Thank you Partner. You did lots of stuff behind the scene to make Miami a success. We will continue to work together. He signed the email simply Tommy.
Carswell responded: Thats why we make the big bucks.
Set up under the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the DOJs CRS, the employees of which are required by law to conduct their activities in confidence, reportedly has greatly expanded its role under President Barack Obama. Though the agency claims to use impartial mediation practices and conflict resolution procedures,
press reports along with the documents obtained by Judicial Watch suggest that the unit deployed to Sanford, FL, took an active role in working with those demanding the prosecution of Zimmerman.
On April 15, 2012, during the height of the protests, the Orlando Sentinel reported, They [the CRS] helped set up a meeting between the local NAACP and elected officials that led to the temporary resignation of police Chief Bill Lee according to Turner Clayton, Seminole County chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The paper quoted the Rev. Valarie Houston, pastor of Allen Chapel AME Church, a focal point for protestors, as saying They were there for us, after a March 20 meeting with CRS agents.
Separately, in response to a Florida Sunshine Law request to the City of Sanford, Judicial Watch also obtained an audio recording of a community meeting held at Second Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church in Sanford on April 19, 2012. The meeting, which led to the ouster of Sanfords Police Chief Bill Lee, was scheduled after a group of college students calling themselves the Dream Defenders barricaded the entrance to the police department demanding Lee be fired. According to the Orlando Sentinel, DOJ employees with the CRS had arranged a 40-mile police escort for the students from Daytona Beach to Sanford.
These documents detail the extraordinary intervention by the Justice Department in the pressure campaign leading to the prosecution of George Zimmerman, said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. My guess is that most Americans would rightly object to taxpayers paying government employees to help organize racially-charged demonstrations.
Zimmerman was absolutely wrong in following him for any length of time longer than to place the call to the dispatcher. His role as a Neighborhood Watch patroller was over at the point of conclusion of that phone call.
Megyn Kelly’s replacement is Martha MacCullum who is normally on at 9:00 am with Bill Hemmer.
YEP pretty sickening.....the dispatcher ...not a cop but a min. wage employee....asked z if he was following the perp told him ‘you dont need to do that’ RIGHT you dont need to tail a suspicious individual on a dark rainy night in a community with elderly residents after more than one recent break in at that same residence....i see, just let him roam around maybe break in and scare some oldster to death or worse..if i were the oldster i think i’d want george to tail the guy and chase him out of there....
all things considered...
Zimmerman was asked for an address. He didn’t want to give his address because he didn’t know where Martin was (which makes me believe he was not following him at that point). He walked up a street to give another house address to respond to the dispatcher.
Why is that wrong? Isn’t Neighborhood Watch supposed to watch? Is it illegal to look at someone?
“You don’t need to do that” isn’t the same as “stop doing that”.
Well. . . that just means we will soon be watching the Sanford Turkey Shoot of 2013. . . (evil grin)
Smell day fire?
Thanks! I could NOT remember her name but certainly remember the beautiful face. But GZ said he stopped following TM. So why is that at least not a question?
Every thug and criminal in America thanks you for your support, including Hussein Obama and Eric Holder.
“Sheriff Scott Israel appeared in a video alongside a rapping duet of two teenagers, one a Hispanic female and another a black male, who tell the public, “Raise your voice, and not your hands! We need to stand together as one, no cuffs, no guns. ... “
That is going to be much less successful than a simple “Rioters Will Be Shot” public service announcement.
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I am not that fond of Bill Hemmer. But Martha is wonderful. I just wondering if she hasn’t seen the footage from Sean Hannity’s program where he says he stopped following him. Seems relevant!
I agree completely
So? I’ve had strangers walk down my street and into my yard to talk to me. Would I have been justified in attacking them?
There was a video by the defense of the reenactment of what happened up to when Martin jumped on Zimmerman and attacked him
The culprits at NBC lost their jobs; but, did they hurt their career?
You have bad information.
According to testimony and evidence (tapes of Zimmerman's testimony and interviews) submitted at the trial, Zimmerman STOPPED following Trayvon when the 911 contact told him not to.
He then started to make his way back to his vehicle following the circular, winding streets and left Trayvon to go wherever he was going.
As Zimmerman was on his way back to his vehicle, but before he reached it, he met up with Trayvon again and that is when Trayvon attacked him.
Are people starting to line up outside of stores like before Black Friday sales? How about while waiting for the next Star Wars film to open?
Sequoyah101 ~:” Where do you go when the law breaks the law and wipes with the Constitution? “
Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137,(1803) “The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.”
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” Thomas Jefferson
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”— Thomas Jefferson
“You dont need to do that isnt the same as stop doing that.
Exactly right, and put very succinctly.
It’s a RAT county.
I hope they tear the place apart, regardless of the verdict.
I saw the video where GZ walked police through what happened, before he had attorneys. And I hear there was a video prepared that the judge would not allow defense to use.
meanwhile DOJ busy fomenting riots
advice for Holder’s people:
go to the store, write your name and obamaphone number on a piece of tape and place it on the back of the TV. That should reserve it for you when you return on Friday.
Well, here we are. What next?
It was a rhetorical question actually but you have given the correct answer. How many times and how badly does the law have to be broken for a response to be just?
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson
Know where we can find any Patriots? I know where there are a bunch of Tyrants.
As I’ve always said, when these people riot, they usually tear up their own neighborhoods,
causing HUNDREDS of dollars in damages.
America is at that awkward stage; its too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.-Claire Wolfe
One of the operative issues in this case is the ultimate imperative. It doesn’t matter if there was following, or not. It doesn’t matter if GZ was given instructions (he wasn’t) that he disobeyed. There is one most significant issue, which if true, prevents all further discussion. That is: Did GZ at the time he fired his Kel-Tec reasonably believe his lifewas endangered, or serious bodily harm was going to occur. If it did, he could defend himself. All else is window dressing.
Another FReeper posted this morning on another thread the following logical argument that I believe you will hear urged in closing argument. Assume there are two men. One has a gun, and the other doesn’t. One is a soft, formerly pudgy man afraid of personal confrontation. Who starts the fight? I would posit that the one without the gun would begin fisticuffs. A man with a gun, wanting to dissuade another, at most, would brandish (not advised) to warn the other.
But, regardless who started the physical exchange, did GZ have a reasonable belief that his life was endangered to the point of death or serious bodily injury. The test is subjective - not objective. It is not what any other person (jury, lawyer, judge) thinks. It is what GZ was thinking “in the moment”.
That is the Florida law that the jury will be instructed upon.From reading the two stautes it seems that there is good reason for law enforcement to anticipate riots.
When our Masters speak we are to say Yassuh and do as they say./s