Skip to comments.Asiana pilot says saw flash of light during landing
Posted on 07/10/2013 4:38:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
The pilot at the helm of the Asiana Airlines flight told investigators he saw a flash of light while trying to land the plane and was temporarily blinded, National Transportation Safety Board Chairwoman Debbie Hersman said on Wednesday
We really dont know what it couldve been, Hersman said when asked if the flash couldve been a laser of some type.
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He probably thought he was going to die.
It was his career blowing up in his face.
So this flash of light somehow altered his approach profile?
It doesn’t appear that they knew they were in trouble till it was already too late. I doubt a flash of light would have made much difference a few seconds out.
It blowed up real good.
It’s possible someone was pointing a laser at the plane. If true, it would be interesting to see if a careful examination of surveillance video sheds any light on the identity of the culprit.
Michigan Militia did it!
I’m not buying it unless what was said on the cockpit recorder somehow verifies it.
I will no longer believe any stories of lasers causing airplane crashes after watching the Egyptian footage of helicopters circling the crowds. Those helicopters looked like they were painted green and red from all the hundreds of lasers on them, and the pilots cruised around without a care.
LOL good point. The choppers looked like they were lit up with strobe lights.
[Im not buying it unless what was said on the cockpit recorder somehow verifies it.]
Right. What was the altitude and speed of the plane when this flash occurred?
Exactly. How did a flash change his speed and approach.
Unless someone was on the tarmac pointing a laser at the plane, or someone in a car on the San Mateo Bridge, or someone was on a boat in the water between the plane and the runway, I doubt it's possible to flash the pilot at that point in the approach.
BTW, there are always windsurfers in the Bay off of the runway who are riding the wake from the planes.
The sun, while the plane was cartwheeling?
I read today that one of the relief pilots said the nose was so high that the runway couldn’t be seen by the crew. So did this so-called flash of light come from the sky?
Well this proves that it wasn’t mechanical error. The pilots wouldn’t be making such trasnparent claims otherwise.
Hey Lee, lying does not make things better.
That was the blinding flash of OH CRAP, I BLEW IT!
All pilots fear the cry of the OH NO bird.
My guess.. Asian pride. Pilot is saying this to save face.
That’s the clean version. Lol.
Saw that. Wondered what the pilots thought about it.
Flash of light? I suspect a white Hispanic.
It was his career dissapation light. It went into high gear.
What he actually saw was the end of his career as a commercial pilot; “QUICK; I NEED AN EXCUSE, OR SOME BODY ELSE TO BLAME”.
So, did that flash of light come right after screaming, “Jesus take the wheel!”, cuz we know it wasn’t you that saved all those passengers.
We need the Ancient Aliens guy here.
Pilots have been blinded by lasers before and civilians have been arrested and sentenced to prison terms for this offense. It probably depends on the timing. The guy wielding the laser might have fortuitously hit the sweet spot, the critical moments during which any mistake would have caused an accident. A guy with 10,000 flying hours doesn't seem like someone who would crash an idiot-proof plane like a large commercial jet by accident. Yes, it was his first landing at SFO, but every pilot has a first time.
Sun reflecting off something probably.
but not their fault of course...
A flash could have blinded him for a few seconds, delaying his recognition of a developing situation. Perhaps if he had noticed a few seconds earlier, he would have had enough time to correct the problem.
In any case, we won’t know until the investigation report is released.
Oh sure there was a light, oh sure!
A flash of light does not make you low and slow at the fence, bubba.
Stand up like a man a take your medicine.
YOU SCREWED UP!
I am a retired ATC out of SFO. I worked SFO Bay Approach at NCT (Area B)and we dealt with foreign pilots on a regular basis.
If you get a couple of them on frequency at the same time and you are having a problem with them reading back your clearances in a manner that you think is correct and you have to keep going back to them to verify, you can “go down the shitter” pretty quick.
That is one issue.
I can’t verify, but I have heard that the requirement to speak English (the universal language in ATC) is very lax. This would not surprise me from my experience. A few have told me that it is just a matter of them checking a box on a form.
Here is an issue that is not being brought up and might be a factor in this accident. Cockpit/Crew Resource Management CRM is a bit different in the Asian Culture. There is a tendency to not question your superiors. This can have disastrous consequences in the cockpit.
I am not sure about the dynamics that were in play on this flight with training going on etc... but someone should have said something sooner.
I have always felt that it would be very very easy for a reporter looking for a story to get a scanner and monitor the traffic at SFO or any other international airport and document just how bad the language barrier is.
Also read just now that at least one of the pilots that was being interviewed was using a translator. HMmmmmmmm..... That does not surprise me at all.
The one from the indicator saying “you’re too low dummy”
Lying to save your butt from criminal prosecution isn’t a uniquely Asian trait.
It would depend on the power of the laser and the beam width at the plane.
The lasers seen in Egypt are little low power laser pointers with beam width of a few inches at a distance.
A high power laser with a wide beam width at target distance. As in wide enough to cover the entire cockpit window. Then the pilots are not going to see crap, no mater how hard they try and squint their eyes.
we call it the SUN
Was that his career flashing before his eyes?
IBM (In Before Mockery!)
Oooooops, sorry, I’m late.
that is very likely
That “developing situation” started in Seoul, Korea when the pilots were planning the flight. In my opinion, the error chain began there with a poorly matched check pilot (trainer) and a weak Captain and crew. Most likely, the crew missed the fact that the ILS approach facilities were out of service for 28L and 28R. Knowing this, they would have had a flight across the entire Pacific Ocean to plan a non precision approach using the excellent Flight Management Computer to build an approach with alignment and glide path information that could have been autopilot coupled and flown to 300 or 400 feet. “Flash of Light”? I sincerely doubt it.
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