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BREAKING: JUDGE RULES JURY CAN CONSIDER LESSER CHARGE OF MANSLAUGHTER AGAINST ZIMMERMAN...
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Posted on 07/11/2013 7:12:21 AM PDT by Perdogg

DRUDGE Headline: BREAKING: JUDGE ALLOWS LESSER CHARGE OF MANSLAUGHTER...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; kangaroocourt; martin; railroaded; ruling; trayvonmartin; tyranny; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/11/2013 7:12:21 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

So he’ll probably end up getting 30 years. What a load of crap.


2 posted on 07/11/2013 7:13:19 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Perdogg

Not so good esp. in FL - manslaughter with a gun carries life or so I read here yesterday.


3 posted on 07/11/2013 7:13:35 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Perdogg

Now there’s a surprise...


4 posted on 07/11/2013 7:13:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Perdogg

Did anyone think it would be different. Ugly Scrunt Corey sitting in front to CYA.


5 posted on 07/11/2013 7:14:02 AM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: Perdogg

And the high-tech necklacing continues.


6 posted on 07/11/2013 7:14:32 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Perdogg

Child abuse??? Seriously?


7 posted on 07/11/2013 7:14:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Perdogg

I figured it would be allowed.
There’s no question in my mind he will be found not guilty of the murder rap, but I’m not sure how manslaughter reads on the jury instructions. May be challenging for them to convict on that as well.


8 posted on 07/11/2013 7:15:01 AM PDT by tuwood
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To: Perdogg

Ruh Roh.


9 posted on 07/11/2013 7:15:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Perdogg

Zimmerman is going to jail. This judge just gave the jury a way out.

They are scared to death of rioting and are willing to put an innocent man in jail for decades to prevent it.

This judge is completely out of control with judicial misconduct throughout the whole trial.

What a travesty.


10 posted on 07/11/2013 7:15:34 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Perdogg

Manslaugter is not consistent with the original charge. One requires specific intent and one does not.


11 posted on 07/11/2013 7:15:52 AM PDT by Augustinian monk ("BUSHES WITHOUT BORDERS")
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To: Perdogg

Prosecution is also trying for child abuse...smh


12 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:08 AM PDT by ~Vor~ (Freeper since 10/98)
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To: Perdogg

Sounds to me the fix is in.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Perdogg
Crosslinking to daily trial thread.
14 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:13 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Perdogg

She’s grasping at straws....he was defending himself...how is THAT manslaughter? But, I’m no lawyer.


15 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:25 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Perdogg

Since Zimmerman bled all over the place, why doesn’t the state settle for “illegal discharge of hazardous waste” and call that good? At least the buffoons will be able to beat their chests and say they “won”.


16 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:47 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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To: tuwood

I read (or heard) yesterday that the jury will not be allowed to know that manslaughter and murder 2 carry virtually the same sentence in FL.


17 posted on 07/11/2013 7:16:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Perdogg

PER THE INSTRUCTIONS OF SAINT TRAYVON'S DC "DAD"

As evidenced by yesterday's revelation that the US DOJ actively incited the riots that led to charges being brought forward.

18 posted on 07/11/2013 7:17:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Perdogg

The judge has been biased all the way. This is get an appeal without question. I suspect a new trial will be the result.


20 posted on 07/11/2013 7:17:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: tuwood

Reasonable doubt


21 posted on 07/11/2013 7:17:38 AM PDT by griswold3 (Hillary Clinton is Diana Moon Glampers)
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To: Perdogg

I learned in the live threads on this that in Florida this was part and parcel to Murder 2 anyway.

Doesn’t matter. The defenses self defense case speaks to both murder and manslaughter. The prosecution came nowhere close to even suggesting that Z did not fear great bodily harm, enabling him, legally, to use deadly force to get the thug to stop beating his head against the concrete. End of story.


22 posted on 07/11/2013 7:17:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’ve read that the state still needs to cross high bar of disproving self-defense in manslaughter.


23 posted on 07/11/2013 7:17:52 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Perdogg
BREAKING: JUDGE ALLOWS LESSER CHARGE OF MANSLAUGHTER... Prosecutors seek 'child abuse' charge...

The above headlines are from Drudge. I'm surprised they're not charging Zimmerman with littering because he left Trayvon Martin on the grass....

24 posted on 07/11/2013 7:18:11 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: Perdogg

So...?

He was still defending himself.


25 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: ScottinVA

Yep.


26 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:35 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: VRWCarea51

Note to Persecution team: Don’t forget illegal parking of his vehicle and jay walking. /s


27 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:42 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: headstamp 2

Looks like Zimmerman is going to prison where he’ll be forced into general population. He’ll last all of 30 minutes. Any juror who votes to convict, after knowing all the facts laid out, should have a special place in hell awaiting them.


28 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Perdogg
I would not be surprised if Obama & Holder have not reached out and touched these jurors and their families.

...spying on their calls and emails, making them an offer they can't refuse.

29 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:43 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: freebilly

Don’t give them any ideas...OMG!


30 posted on 07/11/2013 7:19:57 AM PDT by lula ( What America needs is men of Character in congress, we have enough characters.)
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To: Perdogg

This sucks huge.


31 posted on 07/11/2013 7:20:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: kristinn

I agree, the bar may still be high, but it’s not as high as it was last night.


32 posted on 07/11/2013 7:20:24 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: freebilly
The above headlines are from Drudge. I'm surprised they're not charging Zimmerman with littering because he left Trayvon Martin on the grass....

I'd Argue he was putting down fertilizer.

33 posted on 07/11/2013 7:21:22 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: tuwood
There’s no question in my mind he will be found not guilty of the murder rap, but I’m not sure how manslaughter reads on the jury instructions. May be challenging for them to convict on that as well.

I've read the instructions. The evidence doesn't support that charge, either.

However, I expect there will be at least one holdout that insists Zimmerman is guilty of "something, anything", and will hang on to that strawman as long as possible.

If I were on that jury, I'd announce as soon as we started the deliberations:

"The state has not proved Zimmerman has committed any crime. All they have done is offer one theory after another that isn't supported by the evidence. I am voting not guilty, and I won't be changing my vote. If you believe he is guilty of anything, then we might as well tell the judge now, so we can all go home.".

34 posted on 07/11/2013 7:21:46 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: headstamp 2

Zimmerman is going to jail. This judge just gave the jury a way out.


No they didn’t. His defense has the exact same veracity against manslaughter as it does against Murder 2.


35 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Perdogg

If this trial wasn’t all over the media I imagine she would have just ordered the jury to return a guilty verdict.


36 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:24 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: VRWCarea51

They were even talking about CHILD ABUSE since martin was only 17.


37 posted on 07/11/2013 7:22:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Perdogg

Someone said that in FL manslaughter with a firearm of someone under 18 carries a life sentence- can someone verify? If the judge goes for this and does not fully inform the jury, the jury may go for the “lesser charge” not understanding that it carries the SAME SENTENCE as murder 2.


38 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:13 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: headstamp 2
Zimmerman is going to jail. This judge just gave the jury a way out. They are scared to death of rioting and are willing to put an innocent man in jail for decades to prevent it. This judge is completely out of control with judicial misconduct throughout the whole trial. What a travesty.

That pretty much sums it up. I haven't watched a minute of the trial, but have heard clips on the radio on various talk shows. There is an unmistakable tone of hostility in the judge's voice towards the defendant. When she addressed him yesterday it was as bright as a beacon.
39 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:02 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: freebilly
littering because he left Trayvon Martin on the grass....

... and not using the bags provided at the beginning of the sidewalk.

I believe he'll be spending lots of time in appeal courts, but any conviction now will be overturned.

40 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:10 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: NonValueAdded

They are so incredibly hell bent on throwing this guy in jail I wouldn’t be surprised if they charge him with littering next.


41 posted on 07/11/2013 7:24:37 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: goodnesswins

She’s grasping at straws....he was defending himself...how is THAT manslaughter? But, I’m no lawyer.


Actually, this week a lawyer chimed in. He said what you and I said. He was defending himself against potential great bodily harm. The best the state can hope for is a hung jury even on manslaughter. I suspect most, if not all of the jurors think that Zimmerman is a completely innocent man that found himself up against a young thug with too much hubris. To send him to prison to satiat a bit** judge makes no sense. That would be the opposite of compassion - and a total lack of respect for the law.


42 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Perdogg

Holder must have sent the judge a message that ended in OR ELSE.


43 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: ScottinVA
"Looks like Zimmerman is going to prison where he’ll be forced into general population. He’ll last all of 30 minutes. Any juror who votes to convict, after knowing all the facts laid out, should have a special place in hell awaiting them."

I suspect that the jurors have been told in whatever indirect way is deniable that they either convict Zimmerman or the community with the Obama DOJ in the shadows will convict them and carry out a sentence.

44 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:27 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: DBrow

Sentence is mandatory 30 years.


45 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:29 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Perdogg
The jury is more than likely scared they will be targeted by the Obama administration if they say not guilty..IRS,and many other things the Muslim could do..And of curse the thugs he let loose on Florida could kill and get away with it..
46 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:32 AM PDT by PLD
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“Any juror who votes to convict, after knowing all the facts laid out, should have a special place in hell awaiting them.”

Yes.


47 posted on 07/11/2013 7:25:37 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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To: cuban leaf
Is it legal to charge the accused with another offense while the the trial is proceeding? What next, driving without a seatbelt?
48 posted on 07/11/2013 7:26:03 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: Perdogg

This country is finished. It is still America, but not as it was founded, the Fed Gov is massively corrupt and have more power than the founders ever envisioned.


49 posted on 07/11/2013 7:26:20 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: headstamp 2

Hopefully this jury is smart enough to realize what is going on here and will acquit on everything the fascists throw their way. Daaaamn, I wish I was on this jury.


50 posted on 07/11/2013 7:26:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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