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Zimmerman Prosecution Devolves into a Show Trial
Townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/11/2013 12:32:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: I haven't paid any attention to this -- well, I've been paying attention to the trial. I haven't paid much attention to this judge until today. You know, my instincts told me the fix was in on this thing from the very first moment Obama and Eric Holder got involved in it. But this is outrageous, what this judge allowed today. Folks, it's all up to the jury now, and it really depends on what they do because in the Zimmerman trial, I mean, every fear that we've had about this appears to be manifesting itself.

Greetings, and great to have you. Rush Limbaugh and the EIB Network, three hours of broadcast excellence straight ahead.

Prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial want to ask jurors to consider lesser charges of third-degree murder and manslaughter because they know that they haven't made their case on first degree murder. So they went and they said, "We want to let the jury decide," 'cause the alternative was acquittal or first-degree murder. And the prosecution today said, "No, no, no, no, manslaughter and maybe second-degree murder -- third-degree murder." I think it was a second-degree murder charge, not first-degree. And then, to compound this -- are you ready for this? -- it looks like the judge is going to permit the jury to consider a charge of child abuse because Trayvon Martin was 17 years old when this happened.

The attorney for Zimmerman stood up and was beside himself. He said (paraphrasing), "They're pulling this out of their hat. This has been buried deep. We didn't know this was coming. We need some time to prepare for this." The judge didn't seem too sympathetic at all. The judge seemed more than willing for virtually anything that will convict this guy of something to happen. Now, I had a little time here, not a whole lot when this started to shake out. As best I could determine, given the time constraints I had, I'm open to being shown wrong about this, but as I checked the statute on this child abuse business, I think, in order for Zimmerman to be convicted of this in something other than a banana republic court, he would have to have known that Trayvon Martin was 17 years old.

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You heard that, too? Well, I don't think Zimmerman cared how old this guy was when this was all going on. I certainly don't think he knew he was 17. I certainly didn't think he was involved with a child here. Prosecutors said that they would ask that the lesser charges be included as they hammer out jury instructions today. Prosecutors also seeking a child abuse charge against Zimmerman since Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of his death. Never mind that Zimmerman's lawyers can't defend against either of these new charges 'cause they've rested. They rested their case, so this stuff comes out after they've rested. They have to ask the judge for special dispensation here.

Zimmerman's attorney has been on TV all morning, strongly objected to the prosecution's proposal that third-degree murder be included in the instructions. The defense attorney's name is Don West. He called the proposal "outrageous" given that it is premised on the idea that Zimmerman committed child abuse since Martin was underage when he was fatally shot. He said, "Oh my God. Just when I thought it couldn’t get more bizarre." West questioned how Zimmerman could be charged with child abuse while Martin was on top of Zimmerman "pummeling him."

The judge's name is Debra Nelson. She said today that she would allow the jurors to consider manslaughter. Arguments on third-degree murder had yet to be made. That's why the defense rested. There were no arguments made on third-degree murder. Look, my dad was a lawyer, but that's the extent of my knowledge here. I just think it's outrageous. And this is what happens in show trials. The only important thing in a show trial is pleasing the people in power and giving the unwashed masses a lesson. Show trials have nothing to do with dispensing justice. They're all about dispensing social justice, which is usually the polar opposite of real justice.

Ex-Sanford Police Chief Tells CNN He Was Fired For Not Arresting Zimmerman

Now, I don't know; I would think we've got grounds for an appeal here. But, I mean, who wants to see Zimmerman dragged through the courts again, even on an appeal, even though he might have to do it. I don't know, folks. I was on Fox yesterday afternoon on their show at five o'clock, and they asked me about this, and I told them that the media, since day one, has been invested in a guilty verdict here based on race.

You know, most of the media people that I've met -- sports, news, you name it -- given their age and generation, the civil rights movement seems to have had a profound impact on informing them of life in America. They are of the belief that racial injustice is just as prevalent today as it was during slavery and that we have yet to really make amends for it, and they consistently look at minorities as really constantly always discriminated against. They've got unbridled sympathy -- you know, it's really what it boils down to. They have unbridled sympathy, and I think it's actually insulting. They look at minorities as incapable of handling themselves, incapable of navigating the canals and the rivers and the fjords of life. And it really is a put-down.

It's a contemptible condescension that they have toward minorities while claiming to love them and being in their corner and being their champions and so forth. But to arrive at that position they've gotta believe these people are pretty much incompetent and incapable and that's why this never-ending sympathy. So the case comes, just like the Duke lacrosse case, it made to order, it fit the bill, and it didn't matter the nature of the evidence. It was yet another opportunity to prove that America is imperfect and needs to be perfected. It's yet another opportunity to prove that America is not yet the land of justice and freedom for all and that the people continually denied are blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities, people of color. And so the media champions, here comes a case, even to go to the extent of they called Zimmerman a white Hispanic.

The New York Times, we researched it, only five instances in United States history in the media of somebody being called a white Hispanic. Zimmerman was number five, and the other ones were in inconsequential references. CNN's picked it up now. He's a white Hispanic, all for the purposes of promoting racial polarization. All for the purposes of promoting a racial divide. So as is much the case and is often the case with liberalism, it's the seriousness of the charge that motives. It's not the nature of the evidence that matters at all. In fact, the nature of the evidence must always be ignored.

I first learned of this, by the way, my life has been a never-ending education of liberalism. During the Clarence Thomas, Anita Hill hearings, I kept hearing advocates for Anita Hill wringing their hands talking about the seriousness of the charge. Yeah, well, what about the evidence? That doesn't matter. Seriousness of the charge. Oh, actually it was before that. The first time I heard it, there was a professor at Columbia named Gary Sick -- appropriately named -- and in 1990, he published a book, and the book claimed that George H. W. Bush was flown secretly to France on an SR-71 spy plane to negotiate with the Iranians. He struck a deal where the Iranians would keep our hostages through the 1980 election, thereby making Carter look bad and enabling Reagan to win. In 1990, 10 years after the fact. Of course, this was all about the George H. W. Bush reelection in 1992.

The Speaker of the House at the time was a man known for stealing airline food, Thomas Foley from the state of the Washington. Well, he was. He'd fly commercial flights and he'd steal people's food and disembark with it. He really loved the plastic knives and forks that came with it. Anyway, he goes to the microphones and the camera, said, "The seriousness of the charge is such here that we are required to investigate." The seriousness of the charge? By who? A whacked out Columbia professor? Yeah, that's all it took, the seriousness of the charge. It's the same bogus BS here. The seriousness of the charge, racial discrimination, racial hate crime, i.e., same thing at the Duke lacrosse case.

It doesn't matter what happened at the Duke case. It doesn't matter everybody involved was embarrassed profoundly. It doesn't matter they were dead wrong, same thing here. So now the trial happens, and the prosecution, everybody knows it, and then the news fails to make their case on second-degree murder, uh-oh, time for emergency procedures. Guess what? You know what? We want to go for "he broke his finger and has a hangnail," whatever we can get a conviction on, child abuse. The judge says, "Oh, that's interesting, oh, okay we'll consider that." And Zimmerman's lawyers don't know what to do.

We're in a show trial. This isn't about justice, folks. Eric Holder goes down there and ratchets up public opinion with Reverend Al. The president says, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," thereby injecting race into a story that may not have been about race at all. Probably was not about race. We certainly do not have white on black crime here. We have made up white Hispanic so-called crime on black here. The only reason this trial is taking place is because the media is invested in a guilty verdict, and the race hustler industry, including the attorney general, flew down there the minute this case happened, when Zimmerman wasn't charged. Remember the original police chief wouldn't charge. They didn't have enough evidence to charge. There was nothing to charge here.

The race hustler industry got involved and brought public pressure on the law enforcement officials down there, and even on the state attorney. In order to satisfy the demands of the all-powerful federal government, they charged Zimmerman. The original law enforcement bunch first exposed to the evidence didn't charge Zimmerman. There was nothing to see. And then the Reverend Sharpton and the other race hustlers got in business and flew down there, Eric Holder flew down there, thanked Reverend Al, as he called him, for his community outreach and service.

The regime saw an opportunity to turn something into a profoundly racial case for the express purpose of ripping the country apart. I don't know how to describe it. I really don't know how else to describe it. Last night on CNN's Anderson Cooper 175 correspondent George Howell interviewed the former Sanford, Florida, police chief, Bill Lee. He was the guy that said there was no probable cause for arrest and he was the guy that was fired, or removed from the case. So the CNN correspondent Howell said, "Your lead investigator, Chris Serino, suggested manslaughter on that initial police report. Why is it that for 40 plus days George Zimmerman walked a free man?"

LEE: The laws of the state of Florida and the Constitution require you to have probable cause to arrest someone. The evidence, the testimony that we had, didn't get us to probable cause. You know, if we had people that were witnesses that could tell us that the self-defense claim or the way George Zimmerman said things happened that contradicted that, then we certainly may have probable cause.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; judge; prosecution; trayvonmartin; zimmermantrial
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1 posted on 07/11/2013 12:32:25 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The only effective prosecution has been by the Judge !


2 posted on 07/11/2013 12:38:47 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

This was a show trial before it even convened.


3 posted on 07/11/2013 12:41:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

That should read “Persecution”.


4 posted on 07/11/2013 12:43:55 PM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
too true , and needs to be repeated :

This was a show trial before it even convened. !!!


5 posted on 07/11/2013 12:44:43 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

I wish I had complete faith that the jury will acquit George Zimmerman.

I am so praying.


6 posted on 07/11/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Kaslin

The prosecution keeps using the word ‘profiling’ in closing statements.. THEY ARE SETTING THE DOJ UP FOR A FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS ‘RACIAL PROFILING’ CHARGE. There is NO evidence whatsoever that George was watching Trayvon due to his race. They couldn’t even find someone that could testify to George ever saying the ‘N’ word, or they SURELY WOULD HAVE.


7 posted on 07/11/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kaslin

I have to wonder if the IRS has audited Zimmerman yet?


8 posted on 07/11/2013 12:47:15 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: onyx
"I wish I had complete faith that the jury will acquit George Zimmerman."

I wish I had complete faith that Zimmerman would've gotten a jury of his peers.

9 posted on 07/11/2013 12:47:46 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kozak
Kozak ~:" That should read “Persecution”."

That needs repeating !

That should read “Persecution”."


Bring out more of the clowns ,.. I already have the popcorn !


10 posted on 07/11/2013 12:50:11 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin
During analysis of a photo of George's clean hands, the prosecutor said "If the victim (Trayvon) is wailing on him (Zimmerman), then why is he not defending himself?"

Well, Mr. Prosecutor.. He DID defend himself! BOOM! LOL

11 posted on 07/11/2013 12:51:02 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kaslin
Zimmerman Prosecution Devolves into a Show Trial

I haven't been following this, are the prosecutors all bleeding heart dims?

12 posted on 07/11/2013 12:53:26 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

yep.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 12:54:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

yep.


14 posted on 07/11/2013 12:55:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: onyx

Right there with you Onyx!


15 posted on 07/11/2013 12:55:38 PM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: onyx

Me too.


16 posted on 07/11/2013 12:56:57 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: onyx

I think it probably depends on whether threat to the jurors’ personal safety and that of their families has been somehow communicated to them.


17 posted on 07/11/2013 1:00:36 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's EcThomics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Kaslin

It was 2nd degree murder, not first.


18 posted on 07/11/2013 1:03:45 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: All

I mean it was 2nd degree murder he was charged with, not that he is guilty of it.


19 posted on 07/11/2013 1:04:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: onyx

That is all Mr. Zimmerman; and all of us for that matter; has left, FRiend. Praying to God that the jury recognizes the outrageous, desperate nature of the proceedings.

Tatt


20 posted on 07/11/2013 1:05:40 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Kaslin

The phone’s tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the DA
Look out kid
Don’t matter what you did


21 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:10 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: onyx

That’s what worries me, too.

Recent times have shown us that juries (O.J. Simpson, Casey Anthony) can be composed of some damn stupid people.


22 posted on 07/11/2013 1:06:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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23 posted on 07/11/2013 1:11:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: onyx

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3041574/posts?page=2101#2101

Ask and yea shall receive FRiend.

Prayers up.
Tatt


24 posted on 07/11/2013 1:15:19 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Z may have profiled Martin as as potential criminal, and before he even knew his race. Martin's criminal record and his very likely assault on Z proved the validity of that profile. Profile has become a dirty word but it is necessarily used by police every day, so why not by citizens?

If Martin has not attacked Z as I believe he did, he (Martin)would be alive today.

25 posted on 07/11/2013 1:52:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Kaslin

In general, women like compromising. Manslaughter is the compromise here.

Poor George.


26 posted on 07/11/2013 1:57:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: onyx

Rush, I love ya but you’re wrong.
If this was a real show trial Zimmerman would have
confessed and named his accomplices...


27 posted on 07/11/2013 2:01:59 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kaslin

since when can they just tack on new charges in the middle of a case, to be considered in that case, where you’re defending yourself against the original charge? wouldn’t that require another trial?

obviously the ‘judge’ is a hard leftie, but we knew that when we saw it was female.


28 posted on 07/11/2013 2:04:26 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: luvbach1
Zimmerman profiled him for the way that he was acting, not his race, but the judge has not allowed any evidence to be introduced on Trayvon's prior conduct to show that Zimmerman had very good reason to be suspicious of what Trayvon was up to.

Maybe Trayvon attacked because he had seen something he wanted inside one of the townhouses and knew with the neighborhood watchman observing him, that he couldn't break in and take it.

29 posted on 07/11/2013 2:10:47 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I haven't been following this, are the prosecutors all bleeding heart dims?

That's hard to determine but the fact is that they are under higher orders, as well as the judge, to do whatever is necessary to convict Mr. Zimmerman.......

30 posted on 07/11/2013 2:11:00 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I wish I had complete faith that Zimmerman would've gotten a jury of his peers.

All women jurors, IIRC.

31 posted on 07/11/2013 2:11:18 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: rhubarbk; Gator113

Wonderful.
We’ll keep praying and praying for his wonderful lawyers, too.
They’re presenting closing arguments tomorrow morning.
If not an outright acquittal, we need at least one juror to see this miscarriage of justice and cause a mistrial.


32 posted on 07/11/2013 2:16:32 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: arthurus
I think it probably depends on whether threat to the jurors’ personal safety and that of their families has been somehow communicated to them.

Oh geeeez. If that's the case, that's immdiate news for the judge.

33 posted on 07/11/2013 2:18:12 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: thesearethetimes...
That is all Mr. Zimmerman; and all of us for that matter; has left, FRiend. Praying to God that the jury recognizes the outrageous, desperate nature of the proceedings.

Yes, along with his excellent lawyers, you're right.

Lord, hear our prayers.

34 posted on 07/11/2013 2:20:23 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Zimmerman profiled him for the way that he was acting, not his race, but the judge has not allowed any evidence to be introduced on Trayvon's prior conduct to show that Zimmerman had very good reason to be suspicious of what Trayvon was up to.

Given that GZ didn't know Trayvon, the past conduct wouldn't give GZ any additional reason to be suspicious of him. But it would demonstrate Trayvon's predisposition to want to settle disagreements with his fists, and DD's testimony shows he wasn't happy about being watched. The lends credence to GZ's assertion that Trayvon started the fist fight.

35 posted on 07/11/2013 2:23:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
That’s what worries me, too.
Recent times have shown us that juries (O.J. Simpson, Casey Anthony) can be composed of some damn stupid people.

Well, we can take "acquital stupid".

I mean, the little girl had to be the most sympathetic murder victim, yet that horrid mom was acquitted for the state not proving its case!

36 posted on 07/11/2013 2:31:26 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: tet68

Oh gosh! LOL.


37 posted on 07/11/2013 2:32:04 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

I have a few problems with this case, I know I am not Z but if I was packing, I would have had my weapon out and told TM to stop in his tracks, sit down with hands on head and wait for the Cops.
Why did the 911 operator take so much time with the lady that recorded the call, and why was not a crusier dispatched upon Z call to 411, I think that timeline of LEO should have been attested to!
I know there is a 45sec quote on the tape but there was not an officer on scene in the time the altercation was taking place.
All that said, My weapon would have been drawn when I exited my vehicle. Only because of the unknown I would be approaching. However That said Z cannot be convicted upon trying to defend himself no matter his bad choice of intent.
If 5-0 would have arrived there would have been no death!


38 posted on 07/11/2013 2:49:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

IIRC, GZ lost sight of TM, who then jumped out of the bushes at him, so it’s probably a good thing GZ didn’t have his weapon drawn.

This case should have never gone to trial. That’s the second tragedy here.


39 posted on 07/11/2013 2:56:15 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

I agree, but I think some items have not been accessed in this trial and no matter what an appeal is a sure thing.
Both Prosecution and Defense have overlooked certain evidence and will have to collect more for the appeal!
I do feel on appeal TM’s phone will be admissible as well as his FB page!
On another point is this, where is Judge Nelson goin for vacation she hurried this trial to no end and has violated the cause of justice and that will have to be adressed.
I would only say this about weapon drawn, just because it is drawn verbal warning can be issued the outcome was the same.
I’m just under the suspicion that if TM was advised that a loaded weapon was on him he would have ceased any attack.


40 posted on 07/11/2013 3:05:47 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Kaslin
... this is what happens in show trials. The only important thing in a show trial is pleasing the people in power and giving the unwashed masses a lesson. Show trials have nothing to do with dispensing justice.

Rush 'gets it'...

41 posted on 07/11/2013 3:12:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice organized rallies against George Zimmerman.)
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To: Kaslin

The “Greatest Generation” went all over Europe fighting Nazism and Fascism, then to Korea and Vietnam to combat communism; Now their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have embraced forms of all three “ism”s, complete with regular “show trials”.


42 posted on 07/11/2013 3:12:39 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: onyx

The common thread of all these cases is that injustice prevails. The American people lack the wisdom to know justice.


43 posted on 07/11/2013 3:14:02 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: thesearethetimes...

Being in the cluthes of a FL jury is itself a nightmare.


44 posted on 07/11/2013 3:16:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: fortheDeclaration

Rush’s mistake


45 posted on 07/11/2013 3:24:28 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: MeganC

Mayba, and they probably did his parents


46 posted on 07/11/2013 3:26:09 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

make that maybe


47 posted on 07/11/2013 3:26:43 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

The last paragraph of the summation should be asever rebuke of the judge


48 posted on 07/11/2013 3:28:48 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: onyx

Yes, that’s true.

Regarding Zimmerman, I’m hopeful, but I’m scared those women on the jury are going to decide that he has to pay SOMEHOW for killing that poor little child./s


49 posted on 07/11/2013 3:41:54 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: MeganC

I have to wonder if the IRS has audited Zimmerman yet?


Early on didn’t they revoke his bail because they said he was playing fast and loose with some money raised for his defense or something of that sort? Maybe the IRS did stick their snoots into his bank account or the NSA into his mail. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.


50 posted on 07/11/2013 3:47:27 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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