Skip to comments.In Venezuela, Snowden Can Prepare For Life As A Pawn
Posted on 07/11/2013 12:34:49 PM PDT by IBD editorial writer
Diplomacy: National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden seems to have taken Venezuela's asylum offer, an odd choice for a man supposedly motivated by a desire for transparency. He should prepare for life as a pawn. U.S. surveillance is "not something I am willing to live under," Snowden told the U.K. Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, in a story published Monday, condemning yet again the NSA, whose operations, he claims, motivated him to hack into its computers, steal U.S. secrets, leak them to the press, and then flee a $100,000-a-year job and a pole-dancing girlfriend on the island paradise of Hawaii for a life on the lam. His whining to Greenwald now has a hollow ring, assuming he can exit the Moscow airport transit lounge where he is marooned with a cancelled passport, because Venezuela is far, far worse. Venezuela, contrary to its claims of sovereignty, is a nation run by totalitarian Cuba's security organs, a sort of zombie state under the same goons who keep watch over ordinary Cubans in the crudest surveillance this side of North Korea.
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Bolivia. Evo Morales is highly pissed over the airplane stunt. He will likely fly to Moscow personally to pick-him up and bring him back to La Paz. Will earn street cred by sticking it in Obama’s eye.
Sounds like he should stay in Russia. Maybe Putin got all Snowden has to give so it’s either be killed or S. America.
Iceland is cool though.
Putin is finished with him. There’s no upside for Moscow to keep him around.
If Venezuela takes him in, I think Obama’s hand (or his handlers’) becomes more likely to be involved in the whole affair. Consanguinists of Zero’s departed friend Hugo are still in charge there. Or, would ‘Venezuela’ mean a Venezuelan Embassy somewhere in ... Australia, or some such place? Either Snowden will assume room temperature quickly, or the Administration is trying to make something else desirable happen with Snowden’s continued existence.
There's not a whole lot of evidence that it actually happened in the first place.
His plane refueled in Austria.
That's the only verifiable part of the story.
Which agency supposedly searched his plane?
What French government authority denied him airspace?
We have Evo's word on it. Which isn't worth much.
The only thing I know of that Venezuela has going for it is, their Santa Teresa 1796 rum is some of the best on the planet.
As a controversial foreigner, he will be monitored 24/7 by "Bolivarian volunteers."
LaPaz? Where Che bought it?
And the great thing is that he will get vacations
in Iran and Cuba.
Good food, good beaches, blue laws are pretty strict, though.
I believe Venezuela has plenty of pole-dancing women, so he won’t be lacking in that regard.
Ha! I read that Fidel sent Che there with the full and final intention of getting rid of him.
Che made himself VERY inconvenient!
I guess inconvenient people go to LaPaz!
So, did you actually write the article?
You are right, Castro borrowed from the Stalin playbook...kill a potential rival, then use him as a martyr.
I haven’t read much on what secrets he’s revealed,
but most of them seem to be about our government
spying on its own citizens.
And not on potential terrorists [ie, muslims],
but on political opponents of the socialist expansion of power.
So... I’m pretty much rootin’ for Snowden and against the American Regime on this one.
So far Snowden has been offered asylum in several countries but the problem is that he can’t figure out how to get to any of them without flying over a country with an extradition treaty.
Same here, for identical reasons.
In Venezuela, Snowden can prepare for life as a pawn
In America, Snowden can prepare for life as a pawn ... unless things change immediately and decisively!
Keep shredding the Constitution and with it the rule of law ... grant amnesty and citizenship to millions of illegal aliens from third world countries ... place a majority of the voting public on the public teat ... continue to regulate and tax both businesses and productive individuals into oblivion ... fail to control government spending ... kill the currency ... destroy the economy ... undermine morality ... shout down and shut off intelligent public debate ... take away an independent and free thinking media ... ruin education ... replace the military with a KGB style policing gestapo ... remove opportunity and freedom ... and you have life as a pawn!
And brother, we are racing down that path at breakneck speed!
Must be something ‘unpleasant’ about to come out. Opinion shapers are circling like hawks on this case.
Yep, I noticed.
Very. Sittin’ in a thermal spa sippin’ a cold one rather than sweating away in a jungle...
They are also free to go play in the snow and icy glaciers with their SUVs.
Or, would Venezuela mean a Venezuelan Embassy somewhere in ... Australia, or some such place?
..and China...and Britain...and International Allies...and he’’s passed the documents he has to unknown sources....which should concern everybody.
.... the fact is he's a fool...and his situation is a direct result of ‘his decisions’ to lie, steal and run like the rat he is.
Frankly he's revealed nothing not already known by those informed...and the Int’l. Leaders are playing their “scripted” responses... but they all know they “spy” and so do we”...no news to them either.
Sooo...he's stuck...or better said “cornered”...which like with Assange was the plan.
He's got a heck of a dilemma getting to Venezuela by air...might better go in a hole in a cargo ship...but that's a very long ride.....
I guess it depends on his ‘insurance’ policies and whether he agreed with Putin to ‘stop leaking stuff about the USA’.
“Im pretty much rootin for Snowden and against the American Regime on this one.”
Same here; he exposed our government (and more importantly the Obama regime) as an dictatorship.
Putin made Snowden an offer of an STFU-asylum in Russia and Snowden didn't realize that Putin doesn't entertain counter-offers. Putin, in his comment about shaving a pig results in a lot of noise but no fleece, means this punk's troubles aren't worth a minute of Putin's attention.
Snowden's only way out is valid passport issued by a sympathetic country. His entry into Russia is permanently barred. And so Snowden is twisting slowly in the transit-area of Moscow airport.
No airline will carrying him unless it flies non-stop to the receiving country. I can think of only one that will: Air Koryo (North Korea).
No airline will carrying him unless it flies non-stop to the receiving country.
Again...what has Snowden revealed that hasn’t been already out there to see? ..Nothing...
The truth is there for all who want to know it..and has been....some choose to ignore it..others deny it...some even excuse it....others don’t bother to know rather have the daily media inform them, with all it’s spin and slant.
We know how governments operate...and we know that if media wants a good story they’ll make one to feed the public while OBOZO continues to duck and weave..especially when the public is engaged with these media stories.
However people want to think...Snowden knew well ahead of taking the job at NSA that his intention was to steal “documents”...that is pre-meditated...and he was a pawn in the hands of Assange and the new meal ticket for him to gain popularity, which was fast eclipsing as was his bankroll...Snowden bought into Assanges plan.
Plenty. Notably, Snowden has revealed that the NSA spys on Americans inside the U.S. That was previously denied by the government, to include lying to Congress in statute-mandated briefings. The consequences are enormous, including the likihood that the Executive is blackmailing members of the Legislative and Judicial Branches: Justice Roberts, for example. Is the NSA the reason we are stuck with ObamaCare? This is the rationale for the comments above that we live in a dictatorship.
Snowden is not just letting the average American know what knowledgeable Americans have always known. Snowden's information was not previously known beyond the intelligence community.
Snowden actions, regardless of the public knowing or not...is still against the law...and his actions continue to be so...and that is the bottom line.
I understand the “possibilities” people attempt to claim “might” be as a result of Snowdens actions...that still does not excuse the facts, which are not only known but admitted by Snowden,... that he has purposely palnned, and with intent, sought and stole US Gov. Intellegence ‘Documents’..and lied to accomplish these actions with the purpose of distributing them to whom “HE” determined...and which he has stated he has done just that.
It did not take Snowden for anyone to know our country is being led to a dictatorship......
Snowden has broken the law and must face the consequences. I do, however, believe that his disclosures have had a much needed salutary effect on our political culture.