Skip to comments.So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?
Posted on 07/12/2013 1:16:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
If youre wondering whether my Governor is going to try to become our President, I have no magic window to that, even though I have known him for nearly twenty tears.
But from here in Texas, where all kinds of political plotlines are getting attention, there are some insights I can share as Rick Perry plans a return to private life that may be only momentary.
First, lets get rid of the dumbest analysis of the past week-- the notion that Perry is not seeking re-election because he feared a loss to pro-choice rock starlet Wendy Davis.
Senator Davis may run, and why not? She is probably the Democrats strongest candidate for 2014. But amid all the buzz about Texas shifting from red to purple, be aware that we are nowhere close to electing a Democrat Governor.
If state Attorney General Greg Abbott serves as Perrys successor, he would be a strong incumbent seeking re-election in 2018, so thats not exactly a door the Texas Dems can walk through either. So were a good decade away from any notion of a Democrat in the Governors mansion in Austin.
So will Perry seek another mansion to move into in January 2017, the one being vacated at last by the Obamas?
It would not surprise me. But nor would a decision to stay in private life, to write books or just enjoy his family, including a granddaughter born just a couple of weeks ago. Its easy to forget because he looks years younger, but President Perry would turn 70 at the end of his first term in the White House. He would, in fact, be the third oldest man ever inaugurated, behind Ronald Reagan and William Henry Harrison, and just a week ahead of James Buchanan.
But lets not obsess. No one is talking about Hillary Clintons age as a factor, and she has more than two years on Perry.
The 2016 GOP primary race may have a young-folks feel to it, though. In a field that may contain Senator Marco Rubio (currently 42), Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (45) and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal (42), Rand Paul and Chris Christie look like grizzled veterans at 50.
But lets sift through those names while asking a question about Perrys chances. If you find yourself underestimating him because of the oops moment on a debate stage, think again: Who exactly would bring stronger credentials than Perry in 2016?
Lets dispense with Christie immediately, because millions of Republicans nationwide already have. Im pleased to have him as Governor of New Jersey, but his zeal to keep that job has involved episodes ranging from fawning over President Obama to faint-at-best support of the Romney-Ryan ticket to ambivalence over some conservative causes.
Senator Paul is an interesting guy. Not as out-there as his Dad, but still steeped in a rigid libertarianism that might place him just outside the GOP primary mainstream.
Walker and JIndal are superb public servants who have helped their states with bold conservative leadership, but they have been around for a hiccup of time compared to the decade and a half Perry will be able to tout in a thriving Texas.
I mention Jeb Bush only because every 2016 preview insists on it, even though I find absolutely no groundswell of desire for his candidacy.
So again-- tell me who would be a bigger deal than Perry at the starting gate sometime around the summer of 2015? (Im not forgetting Sarah Palin. I just dont think she will run for President again, and who knows? She may be freshly installed by then as Alaskas newest United States Senator.)
Now to the irony you may have already discerned. There is one name that might excite as many voters as Perry, if not more, and he is one of those pesky 42-year-olds, and from the same state, to boot.
That would be Ted Cruz, who has generated more buzz and passion in six months in the U.S. Senate than some leaders do in an entire career. A poll this month already shows more Texans stoked about Cruz than Perry for the White House.
But lets tap the brakes for a moment. While Cruz has more zip on the appeal meter right now-- and he deserves every bit of it-- there would have to be attention to the skills needed to win a general election, and there Perrys seasoning and broader appeal may accrue to his advantage.
But if national GOP voters are in the same screw it, we want a fighter mood that Texas voters channeled last year, Cruz would be a force so formidable that Perry may choose to stay out rather than walk into that buzz saw.
But when have we been in that mood lately? No wonder we pine for Reagan. He wasnt just a magnificent President, he was the last consistently conservative nominee we offered up-- and I say that with all due respect for our standardbearers since, especially George W. Bush, whose presidency I will always be grateful for in the post-9/11 era, even though government got way too big on his watch.
So a lot of fortunes depend on the mood of Republican voters as 2015 winds to a close and the Iowa caucuses draw near. Will we atomize our preferences along a wide spectrum containing some worthy warriors, allowing another under-inspiring, semi-conservative to waltz through the crowd to the convention?
Or will we be in the mood to stand up to Hillary, or whoever the lefts hero will be that year? Will we be ready to fight for the repeal of Obamacare, lower taxes, states rights and a strong values agenda?
He may have struggled last year to remember that third cabinet agency he would get rid of, but with four more years of protecting Texas from the Obama agenda, coupled with a crisper approach toward campaigning, Rick Perry would be a strong bet to land among the strongest contenders when hopefuls start announcing two years from now.
This crap again so soon?
Our 2012 candidate invented the Individual Mandate and put it into practice years before Zero (who lacked the smarts to come up with it on his own, but was happy to delegate the task to Pelosi and Reid).
I like Scott Walker.
Rick Perry has done a great job, but he is so boring to listen to. He also does not seem the fire in the belly, very similar to Romney.
I read the article several times through and I don’t find any mention of individual mandate
Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.
We need an unknown, well speaking independent thinking individual who is not afraid to call the republican party what it really is, the new democrats. And who is not afraid to call the dems what they really are, in public,race baiting, commie bastards.
Ask yourself who the 2012 candidate was. Ask yourself why he lost. Could it be that the best issue for Republicans was not available to him, due to his own history? The failure of which, at the national level, we now see validated by Zero's own minions.
Rick Perry may not be the best debater, but he does not have that handicap! We should have nominated him in 2012.
Anybody else who doesn’t have marbles in his mouth?
So its his turn now?
I agree on Walker being a better choice.
I will tell you, there are three leaders in government who when I get to vote are above Perry. Palin, Walker, and um ... who’s the third one there? Let’s see.
This speech turned his stomach.
Here he lamely explains himself.
He embodies all the reasons not to vote Republican.
Of course, for whom do you vote then? Losertarian?
Yes but Santorum has been labeled as a crackpot of sorts in the past and it suk. I’m not saying I agree with that but public perception is a critical factor with voters.
Yes but Santorum has been labeled as a crackpot of sorts in the past and it stuck. Im not saying I agree with that but public perception is a critical factor with voters.
Just open the phone book and take your pick
I voted for him in our primary. My first choice though was Herman Cain, but he was out before our primary
You can not deny that anyone of our candidates was better then that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Some more, some less
Perry sputtered out in 2012.
If he jumps in to the 2016 fray, the video of his memory lapse will be played ad nauseum.
Being an active governor, however, puts him points ahead of anyone from the Senate, especially, and House, secondarily, Christie or Jeb Bush.
If Rick wants it... Rick will have to work his arse off and he MUST be what we need to save America... if he even wants to live in the White House... so to get it... he must be “it”... get it?
He has accomplished what others have not....... accomplish real results
Trivial nuanced falderal on minor points of dogma do not detract from his ability to do
“I refuse to vote for anyone who feels she or he is being forced to run.”
Would you have refused George Washington? He never wanted it... yet he never refused and gave his life’s span to us freely. The very BEST PRESIDENTS did not want to run... but were compelled to run for America’s sake and not their own.
I find it interesting that the second link in your post is from Buzzfeed, which is a leftwing site, just like Politico is and I refuse to take anything serious from these sites
He deserves nothing. He is a boring loser with no real accomplishments
He is a theoretician lacking ability to accomplish
See my post in #16. Like I said he has to want to run and his heart has to be 100% in it
The author, Mark Davis, is a huge RINO and appears to be pimping Perry who also pushes RINO policies including amnesty and in-state tuition for ILLEGAL ALIENS ala RinoRubio.
As an aside, Davis has to be one of the most boring talk show hosts. Ever!
So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?
The only one slimey enough mean enough and smart enough to bend the democrats over and sodomize them for the gipper..
NEWT GINGRICH.. thats who..
The ONLY one that can and would spit hyperbole in their faces...
Step on their shoes with ice cleats..
Smiling all the while..
He might be an Ice Hole but he is our ice hole..
It's the puppet masters trying to take hold of the discussion before a true constituional conservative gains traction. It's interesting that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz were mentioned, even if dismissed.
Count on my support for Walker also. Palin is a close second. But neither of these have even given an inkling that they’ll run.
Absolutely... every time I see Fred Thompson selling reverse mortgages, I want my money back. I understand. I want someone who will set America back to what she is supposed to be and not a person that just wants the power and money like every President has been since Reagan. I want an honest man or woman that will restore America and start dismantling the communist infrastructure in government and society. I want a Committee on UNAMERICAN Activities to bring charges of treason against our domestic enemies!
ANYONE that has ever said,” The era of Reagan is over” will NEVER get my vote again. I voted for him in our primary but it was over by then. I voted for romney in the general election and that will never happen again either. Newt may be what you say but Newt is untrustworthy.
You can bank on one thing... I am not looking for perfection but I will not settle for anything less than a true Conservative. Want my vote... earn it! NEVER AGAIN is my Battle Cry!
That would be awesome, with Spectre as his running-mate.
Wow, this is early.......
Who did you support?
Well, if we want a conservative as president perhaps we ought to get behind a conservative.
Me? I supported Cruz and the Constitution party.
How about yourself? Who did you support?
Texas senator Ted Cruz
Perry is a connected World Elite. He has been cooling his real self for a run in 2016. It is a trap. Don’t fall for this one.
He won as many states as Romney did back in 2008. Every candidate with that many states in a primary has became the Republican nominee.
I supported Herman Cain and then Rick Perry and then Mitt Romney
So you think its good to stick with the "Its my turn" model?
How has that worked in the past?
I don’t even think about the 2016 presidential election yet. My focus is on the 2014 election and that we take the Senate back by a huge margin from the rats, and increase our seats in the House
Yes but this looks like the conditioning or drum beating for 2016.
Stronger than “Adios mofo”, Governor “Good Hair”, “I’m building the TTC no matter who gets in my way”, etc...
Not in any particular order:
I’m sure I’m missing a few...
Cruz could be a force and Rand Paul will be a force. This time I am hoping conservatives will not split their votes and decide early on Cruz, Paul or Sara. I think it very unlikely that Sara will run so we need to decide on either Cruz or Paul. Either one is fine with me. Both are strong principled conservatives that can articulate the conservative message. Slight edge to Cruz on being the better conservative but slight edge to Paul on experience and organization. (And there is always that natural born citizen thing that could prevent a Cruz run).