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So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?
Townhall.com ^ | July 12, 2013 | Mark Davis

Posted on 07/12/2013 1:16:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

If you’re wondering whether my Governor is going to try to become our President, I have no magic window to that, even though I have known him for nearly twenty tears.

But from here in Texas, where all kinds of political plotlines are getting attention, there are some insights I can share as Rick Perry plans a return to private life that may be only momentary.

First, let’s get rid of the dumbest analysis of the past week-- the notion that Perry is not seeking re-election because he feared a loss to pro-choice rock starlet Wendy Davis.

Senator Davis may run, and why not? She is probably the Democrats’ strongest candidate for 2014. But amid all the buzz about Texas shifting from red to purple, be aware that we are nowhere close to electing a Democrat Governor.

If state Attorney General Greg Abbott serves as Perry’s successor, he would be a strong incumbent seeking re-election in 2018, so that’s not exactly a door the Texas Dems can walk through either. So we’re a good decade away from any notion of a Democrat in the Governor’s mansion in Austin.

So will Perry seek another mansion to move into in January 2017, the one being vacated at last by the Obamas?

It would not surprise me. But nor would a decision to stay in private life, to write books or just enjoy his family, including a granddaughter born just a couple of weeks ago. It’s easy to forget because he looks years younger, but President Perry would turn 70 at the end of his first term in the White House. He would, in fact, be the third oldest man ever inaugurated, behind Ronald Reagan and William Henry Harrison, and just a week ahead of James Buchanan.

But let’s not obsess. No one is talking about Hillary Clinton’s age as a factor, and she has more than two years on Perry.

The 2016 GOP primary race may have a young-folks feel to it, though. In a field that may contain Senator Marco Rubio (currently 42), Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (45) and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal (42), Rand Paul and Chris Christie look like grizzled veterans at 50.

But let’s sift through those names while asking a question about Perry’s chances. If you find yourself underestimating him because of the “oops” moment on a debate stage, think again: Who exactly would bring stronger credentials than Perry in 2016?

Let’s dispense with Christie immediately, because millions of Republicans nationwide already have. I’m pleased to have him as Governor of New Jersey, but his zeal to keep that job has involved episodes ranging from fawning over President Obama to faint-at-best support of the Romney-Ryan ticket to ambivalence over some conservative causes.

Senator Paul is an interesting guy. Not as out-there as his Dad, but still steeped in a rigid libertarianism that might place him just outside the GOP primary mainstream.

Walker and JIndal are superb public servants who have helped their states with bold conservative leadership, but they have been around for a hiccup of time compared to the decade and a half Perry will be able to tout in a thriving Texas.

I mention Jeb Bush only because every 2016 preview insists on it, even though I find absolutely no groundswell of desire for his candidacy.

So again-- tell me who would be a bigger deal than Perry at the starting gate sometime around the summer of 2015? (I’m not forgetting Sarah Palin. I just don’t think she will run for President again, and who knows? She may be freshly installed by then as Alaska’s newest United States Senator.)

Now to the irony you may have already discerned. There is one name that might excite as many voters as Perry, if not more, and he is one of those pesky 42-year-olds, and from the same state, to boot.

That would be Ted Cruz, who has generated more buzz and passion in six months in the U.S. Senate than some leaders do in an entire career. A poll this month already shows more Texans stoked about Cruz than Perry for the White House.

But let’s tap the brakes for a moment. While Cruz has more zip on the appeal meter right now-- and he deserves every bit of it-- there would have to be attention to the skills needed to win a general election, and there Perry’s seasoning and broader appeal may accrue to his advantage.

But if national GOP voters are in the same “screw it, we want a fighter” mood that Texas voters channeled last year, Cruz would be a force so formidable that Perry may choose to stay out rather than walk into that buzz saw.

But when have we been in that mood lately? No wonder we pine for Reagan. He wasn’t just a magnificent President, he was the last consistently conservative nominee we offered up-- and I say that with all due respect for our standardbearers since, especially George W. Bush, whose presidency I will always be grateful for in the post-9/11 era, even though government got way too big on his watch.

So a lot of fortunes depend on the mood of Republican voters as 2015 winds to a close and the Iowa caucuses draw near. Will we atomize our preferences along a wide spectrum containing some worthy warriors, allowing another under-inspiring, semi-conservative to waltz through the crowd to the convention?

Or will we be in the mood to stand up to Hillary, or whoever the left’s hero will be that year? Will we be ready to fight for the repeal of Obamacare, lower taxes, state’s rights and a strong values agenda?

He may have struggled last year to remember that third cabinet agency he would get rid of, but with four more years of protecting Texas from the Obama agenda, coupled with a crisper approach toward campaigning, Rick Perry would be a strong bet to land among the strongest contenders when hopefuls start announcing two years from now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016elections; 2016gopprimary; perry2016; presidentialnominee; rickperry
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I really hate those speculations
1 posted on 07/12/2013 1:16:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This crap again so soon?


2 posted on 07/12/2013 1:22:13 AM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: Kaslin
Last I checked, Texas doesn't have the Individual Mandate.

Our 2012 candidate invented the Individual Mandate and put it into practice years before Zero (who lacked the smarts to come up with it on his own, but was happy to delegate the task to Pelosi and Reid).

3 posted on 07/12/2013 1:26:07 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kaslin

I like Scott Walker.

Rick Perry has done a great job, but he is so boring to listen to. He also does not seem the fire in the belly, very similar to Romney.


4 posted on 07/12/2013 1:35:34 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: cynwoody

I read the article several times through and I don’t find any mention of individual mandate


5 posted on 07/12/2013 1:37:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: rawhide

Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.


6 posted on 07/12/2013 1:46:13 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Kaslin

We need an unknown, well speaking independent thinking individual who is not afraid to call the republican party what it really is, the new democrats. And who is not afraid to call the dems what they really are, in public,race baiting, commie bastards.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 1:54:22 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Kaslin
I read the article several times through and I don’t find any mention of individual mandate

Ask yourself who the 2012 candidate was. Ask yourself why he lost. Could it be that the best issue for Republicans was not available to him, due to his own history? The failure of which, at the national level, we now see validated by Zero's own minions.

Rick Perry may not be the best debater, but he does not have that handicap! We should have nominated him in 2012.

8 posted on 07/12/2013 1:59:30 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kaslin

Anybody else who doesn’t have marbles in his mouth?


9 posted on 07/12/2013 2:31:46 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: JCBreckenridge
Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.

So its his turn now?

10 posted on 07/12/2013 2:33:07 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: rawhide

I agree on Walker being a better choice.

I will tell you, there are three leaders in government who when I get to vote are above Perry. Palin, Walker, and um ... who’s the third one there? Let’s see.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 2:41:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.

Loser!

This speech turned his stomach.

Here he lamely explains himself.

He embodies all the reasons not to vote Republican.

Of course, for whom do you vote then? Losertarian?

12 posted on 07/12/2013 2:52:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yes but Santorum has been labeled as a crackpot of sorts in the past and it suk. I’m not saying I agree with that but public perception is a critical factor with voters.


13 posted on 07/12/2013 3:05:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Yes but Santorum has been labeled as a crackpot of sorts in the past and it stuck. I’m not saying I agree with that but public perception is a critical factor with voters.


14 posted on 07/12/2013 3:09:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

Just open the phone book and take your pick


15 posted on 07/12/2013 3:24:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Kaslin

Sarah


16 posted on 07/12/2013 3:53:52 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

Rand


17 posted on 07/12/2013 3:57:44 AM PDT by BlueCat
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To: JCBreckenridge

I voted for him in our primary. My first choice though was Herman Cain, but he was out before our primary


18 posted on 07/12/2013 4:17:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: The Wizard
First of all she has to want to run. I refuse to vote for anyone who feels she or he is being forced to run. I made that mistake once and voted for the candidate in our primary. I found his heart was not in it because he quit soon after our primary.
19 posted on 07/12/2013 4:24:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: cynwoody

You can not deny that anyone of our candidates was better then that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Some more, some less


20 posted on 07/12/2013 4:28:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Perry sputtered out in 2012.

If he jumps in to the 2016 fray, the video of his memory lapse will be played ad nauseum.

Being an active governor, however, puts him points ahead of anyone from the Senate, especially, and House, secondarily, Christie or Jeb Bush.


21 posted on 07/12/2013 4:31:12 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Kaslin

If Rick wants it... Rick will have to work his arse off and he MUST be what we need to save America... if he even wants to live in the White House... so to get it... he must be “it”... get it?

LLS


22 posted on 07/12/2013 4:31:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: exnavy
For your information many democrats call them selves independent because they are ashamed that they belong to the rat party.

No thanks

23 posted on 07/12/2013 4:31:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Go Rick......

He has accomplished what others have not....... accomplish real results

Trivial nuanced falderal on minor points of dogma do not detract from his ability to do


24 posted on 07/12/2013 4:33:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Kaslin

“I refuse to vote for anyone who feels she or he is being forced to run.”

Would you have refused George Washington? He never wanted it... yet he never refused and gave his life’s span to us freely. The very BEST PRESIDENTS did not want to run... but were compelled to run for America’s sake and not their own.


25 posted on 07/12/2013 4:35:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: cynwoody

I find it interesting that the second link in your post is from Buzzfeed, which is a leftwing site, just like Politico is and I refuse to take anything serious from these sites


26 posted on 07/12/2013 4:35:26 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: JCBreckenridge

He deserves nothing. He is a boring loser with no real accomplishments

He is a theoretician lacking ability to accomplish


27 posted on 07/12/2013 4:35:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

See my post in #16. Like I said he has to want to run and his heart has to be 100% in it


28 posted on 07/12/2013 4:38:32 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

The author, Mark Davis, is a huge RINO and appears to be pimping Perry who also pushes RINO policies including amnesty and in-state tuition for ILLEGAL ALIENS ala RinoRubio.

As an aside, Davis has to be one of the most boring talk show hosts. Ever!


29 posted on 07/12/2013 4:42:35 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Kaslin

So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?


The only one slimey enough mean enough and smart enough to bend the democrats over and sodomize them for the gipper..

NEWT GINGRICH.. thats who..
The ONLY one that can and would spit hyperbole in their faces...
Step on their shoes with ice cleats..
Smiling all the while..

He might be an Ice Hole but he is our ice hole..


30 posted on 07/12/2013 5:01:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin
I really hate these speculations

It's the puppet masters trying to take hold of the discussion before a true constituional conservative gains traction. It's interesting that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz were mentioned, even if dismissed.

31 posted on 07/12/2013 5:05:37 AM PDT by grania
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To: rawhide

Count on my support for Walker also. Palin is a close second. But neither of these have even given an inkling that they’ll run.


32 posted on 07/12/2013 5:05:55 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Kaslin

Absolutely... every time I see Fred Thompson selling reverse mortgages, I want my money back. I understand. I want someone who will set America back to what she is supposed to be and not a person that just wants the power and money like every President has been since Reagan. I want an honest man or woman that will restore America and start dismantling the communist infrastructure in government and society. I want a Committee on UNAMERICAN Activities to bring charges of treason against our domestic enemies!

LLS


33 posted on 07/12/2013 5:15:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
every time I see Fred Thompson selling reverse mortgages, I want my money back.

When all the Thompson hoopla was going on on FR, I spent 5 minutes doing research and came up with him being head of the committed that wrote the original Campaign Finance bill -- and it was called Thompson-McCain-Finegold.

I had Thompson's number early on. Every time I would post about his history, I got skewered. 'Oh, he has changed' yada yada yada.

I also noted that he would campaign one day and take the next two or three off.

His bandwagon crashed after just a few weeks.

==

Then came 2012 primary season and FReepers spraining themselves and getting splinters as the jumped from one crashed bandwagon to the next. It wasn't pretty to watch.

==

Bottom line: Can he/she win against the opposition?

Sadly, for most of the wannabes running in 2008, 20012 and probably 2016, the answer is 'no, they can't'.
34 posted on 07/12/2013 5:26:33 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: hosepipe

ANYONE that has ever said,” The era of Reagan is over” will NEVER get my vote again. I voted for him in our primary but it was over by then. I voted for romney in the general election and that will never happen again either. Newt may be what you say but Newt is untrustworthy.

LLS


35 posted on 07/12/2013 5:27:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: TomGuy

You can bank on one thing... I am not looking for perfection but I will not settle for anything less than a true Conservative. Want my vote... earn it! NEVER AGAIN is my Battle Cry!


36 posted on 07/12/2013 5:36:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
"Personally, I'd love to see Santorum get his shot. He's earned it."

That would be awesome, with Spectre as his running-mate.

37 posted on 07/12/2013 5:36:42 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Kaslin

Wow, this is early.......


38 posted on 07/12/2013 5:41:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I steal taglines - KILL THE BILL!)
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To: bert

Who did you support?


39 posted on 07/12/2013 5:53:02 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: jsanders2001

Well, if we want a conservative as president perhaps we ought to get behind a conservative.


40 posted on 07/12/2013 5:53:42 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: cynwoody

Me? I supported Cruz and the Constitution party.

How about yourself? Who did you support?


41 posted on 07/12/2013 5:54:27 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Pollster1

Texas senator Ted Cruz


42 posted on 07/12/2013 5:54:46 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

Perry is a connected World Elite. He has been cooling his real self for a run in 2016. It is a trap. Don’t fall for this one.


43 posted on 07/12/2013 5:55:30 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: ClaytonP

He won as many states as Romney did back in 2008. Every candidate with that many states in a primary has became the Republican nominee.


44 posted on 07/12/2013 5:55:46 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

I supported Herman Cain and then Rick Perry and then Mitt Romney


45 posted on 07/12/2013 5:57:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: JCBreckenridge
He won as many states as Romney did back in 2008. Every candidate with that many states in a primary has became the Republican nominee.

So you think its good to stick with the "Its my turn" model?

How has that worked in the past?

46 posted on 07/12/2013 6:00:06 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: bmwcyle

I don’t even think about the 2016 presidential election yet. My focus is on the 2014 election and that we take the Senate back by a huge margin from the rats, and increase our seats in the House


47 posted on 07/12/2013 6:12:27 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yes but this looks like the conditioning or drum beating for 2016.


48 posted on 07/12/2013 6:14:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin

Stronger than “Adios mofo”, Governor “Good Hair”, “I’m building the TTC no matter who gets in my way”, etc...

Not in any particular order:

West.
Palin.
Rand.
Cruz.
Bachmann.
Gowdy.

I’m sure I’m missing a few...


49 posted on 07/12/2013 6:17:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: TomGuy
I think you are correct, Perry ruined his chances with his terrible performance in 2012. It is probably not fair, since he was on pain medication but that's the way it goes.

Cruz could be a force and Rand Paul will be a force. This time I am hoping conservatives will not split their votes and decide early on Cruz, Paul or Sara. I think it very unlikely that Sara will run so we need to decide on either Cruz or Paul. Either one is fine with me. Both are strong principled conservatives that can articulate the conservative message. Slight edge to Cruz on being the better conservative but slight edge to Paul on experience and organization. (And there is always that natural born citizen thing that could prevent a Cruz run).

50 posted on 07/12/2013 6:19:11 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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