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Northern Colorado wants to secede from Colorado
Yahoo News ^ | 07/11/13 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 07/12/2013 9:59:02 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

Will North Colorado become America's 51st state? That's what some residents in the Centennial State are pushing for. Representatives from eight northern counties convened Monday, CBS Denver reports, to "begin mapping the boundaries for the new state they say will represent the interests of rural Colorado." The secession movement stems from "a growing urban-rural divide," with state lawmakers in Denver passing sweeping gun control legislation and calling for more renewable energy and less oil and gas production—a big part of northern Colorado's economy. “Northern and Northeastern Colorado and our voices are being ignored in the legislative process this year, and our very way of life is under attack,” Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway told Coloradoan.com.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: Colorado; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; guncontrol; secession; secondamendment
Eastern Washington State and Eastern California agree! Liberalism is intolerable!!!
1 posted on 07/12/2013 9:59:02 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Instead of seceding (separating and adopting a new name) why not reverse-secede — keep the same name and inform the other parts that THEY’RE being kicked out and THEY must select a new name?


2 posted on 07/12/2013 10:01:22 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Heck, here in New York, on Long Island, there have been calls for Nassau and Suffolk Counties to separate from New York State as well.

Suffolk County comptroller and former state assemblyman Joseph Sawicki (a Republican) has called for a separation of Long Island from the rest of the state, saying that the region, one of the wealthiest in the state, receives only $5.2 billion in state payments and pays $8.1 billion in taxes to the state.

Nassau County executive Ed Mangano came out in support of such a proposal in April 2010 and will be commissioning a study on it.

Long Island even has a movement pushing for secession of the entire geographic island (Kings, Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk counties) from the United States.

READ THIS FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/22/nyregion/22secede.html?_r=0


3 posted on 07/12/2013 10:01:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

They can call it Atlantis.


4 posted on 07/12/2013 10:05:18 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

My brother-in-law is a tech company CEO in Boulder. Was having a casual conversation with him last week. Where’s your son going to college? Middlebury, VT. What’s he studying? Environmental sciences.

Hopeless.


5 posted on 07/12/2013 10:05:44 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

When the Makers abandon the Takers, who then will pay for the latter?


6 posted on 07/12/2013 10:06:32 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I am surprised that western, southern and eastern CO counties don’t want to join us. After all it’s primarily Denver and Boulder that are screwing the rest of us. We should just wall them off like East Berlin used to be and require passports for them to get out into the rest of the state.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 10:06:53 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: fwdude

I was thinking Verde.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 10:09:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BlueStateRightist; Publius; Billthedrill
When the Makers abandon the Takers, who then will pay for the latter?

Shrug? Go Galt? The takers will try to enforce it by force, but they'll mostly likely fail, because they're the people who AREN'T good at doing stuff, including enforcing their will.

9 posted on 07/12/2013 10:10:26 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

West Virginia did it the Civil War. Pro Union East Tennessee tried to also, but the Confederate army invaded and prevented it.


10 posted on 07/12/2013 10:12:04 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; SeekAndFind

This was predicted in the book The Sovereign Individual by Rees-Mogg and Davidson. Look for the break up of the large nation states, and even the return of city-states.

We live in interesting times, which is not necessarily a good thing.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 10:12:22 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Will North Colorado become America's 51st state? That's what some residents in the Centennial State are pushing for. Representatives from eight northern counties convened Monday, CBS Denver reports, to "begin mapping the boundaries for the new state they say will represent the interests of rural Colorado." The secession movement stems from "a growing urban-rural divide," with state lawmakers in Denver passing sweeping gun control legislation and calling for more renewable energy and less oil and gas production—a big part of northern Colorado's economy. “Northern and Northeastern Colorado and our voices are being ignored in the legislative process this year, and our very way of life is under attack,” Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway told Coloradoan.com.

I've read of similar complaints/movements in western Kansas.

12 posted on 07/12/2013 10:13:22 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: Still Thinking

Good Idea...Run the garbage out of Dodge!


13 posted on 07/12/2013 10:13:38 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Pining_4_TX

Let the liberals wall themselves in...just don’t involve the rest of us! To hell with them!


14 posted on 07/12/2013 10:15:07 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Need to sell it to the liberals in boulder as “Who wants those hicks”

And then sell it to the people in north colorado as “Who wants the hippies”

So sell the positives to botht he Hippies and the Hicks so to speak.

Scare the Hippies by saying, “You wouldn’t want someone like Tancredo getting elected governor, would you?”


15 posted on 07/12/2013 10:17:25 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the info. It’s good to see L.I. is serious enough to do something about it. I’m surprised to see Brooklyn and Queens in that mix.

I believe upstate NY feels the same. No way did the good people of NY want the 2nd generation ‘Cuomo’ nor carpetbagger clinton. remember when she got booed when she spoke and the firemen booed her and then it was edited out of the video. I’m convinced there is massive voter fraud.


16 posted on 07/12/2013 10:18:41 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

I live in Upstate, and nothing would help the region West of the Hudson more than being separated from NY City and its control via Albany.

Yes, I have heard the arguments that NY City tax revenues somewhat disproportionately go to Upstate I think its a very surface argument. What about subsidized power from Niagara Falls going downstate? What about the job-killing mandates possibly suitable for NY City, but unworkable in Upstate?


17 posted on 07/12/2013 10:19:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: TigersEye

18 posted on 07/12/2013 10:20:07 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: TigersEye

I am surprised that western, southern and eastern CO counties don’t want to join us. After all it’s primarily Denver and Boulder that are screwing the rest of us. We should just wall them off like East Berlin used to be and require passports for them to get out into the rest of the state.

Make colorado a “dougnut state” with a creme filling of insanity called the state of “Boulder lib-topia”


19 posted on 07/12/2013 10:21:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
This is exactly what I argued in a post yesterday about Mark Levin's new book.

Levin is going to present a plan to use Article V conventions to propose new amendments.

I suggested using Article IV Section 3 to create new states from existing ones, where the conservative parts of states split off to create new states, giving the Senate 2 new conservative Senators.

-PJ

20 posted on 07/12/2013 10:21:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

No passport for her!!!

21 posted on 07/12/2013 10:24:14 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

“...it’s primarily Denver and Boulder that are screwing the rest of us.”

That is exactly right. The same can be said in most states—it is the urban locations that are socialist while the non-urban regions are American. In NYS, Long Island and everything north and west of Westchester County and the burroughs is an entirely different world. The only exceptions are the urban places like Albany, Syracuse, and Rochester. Same situation in Illinois and California. Wisconsin has Milwaukee and Madison then there is the normal rest of the state. And, Michigan...

The path to separations in the states may need to be urban/non urban rather than county/county or region/region.


22 posted on 07/12/2013 10:24:25 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Big City(s) cesspools control entire state’s politics and laws. This is the logical outcome, expect to see more of this.


23 posted on 07/12/2013 10:24:53 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Texas needs to expel Austin for sure, then San Antonio and parts of Houston and Dallas. Because that won’t happen, West Texas, the most conservative part of the state, should become a state.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 10:25:00 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Political Junkie Too

Wait! What. Mike Church has been advocating Article V conventions for years and the Great One blasted him.


25 posted on 07/12/2013 10:27:12 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Yeah, but .. Southeastern West Virginia ?

West North Dakota ?

Eastern edge of North South Carolina ?

26 posted on 07/12/2013 10:27:38 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Still Thinking
Go Galt?

It is supremely ironic that this is happening in Colorado, isn't it?

27 posted on 07/12/2013 10:28:23 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Political Junkie Too

Maryland’s eastern shore is geographically, economically and culturally isolated from the rest of Maryland, which is totally controlled by liberals who have an ironclad grip on the state house. This peninsula is largely rural and conservative. It could thrive on its own and would quickly attract millions of disaffected Marylanders.


28 posted on 07/12/2013 10:31:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Everything east of the cascades and the coast of Washington, Oregon, and California agrees! I swear there must be something in the waters of the pacific that brings out the total flaming loony in people. As a matter of fact, if you carved out every major city in the US, the rest of the country is very conservative, with a very fine sprinkling of flaming liberals and republicans.
29 posted on 07/12/2013 10:33:43 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Billthedrill

Good catch — I missed that!


30 posted on 07/12/2013 10:33:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; nickcarraway; SmithL; NormsRevenge

Can Northern/Eastern California be far behind?


31 posted on 07/12/2013 10:33:49 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: umgud

Big City(s) cesspools control entire state’s politics and laws.
*******
Well said. Cesspools of self-interested corruption and political thuggery.


32 posted on 07/12/2013 10:38:38 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Good Idea...Run the garbage out of Dodge!

Exactly, even viewed in a value-agnostic way, the rural counties are the ones more consistent with historical norms in Colorado and the "progressive" (progressive like cancer, not like progress) urban areas are the ones who are doing something new, so wouldn't THEY be the ones to have been involuntarily separated and needing a new name?

33 posted on 07/12/2013 10:44:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

While I agree with the sentiments could this backfire? What if urban areas wanted to withdraw and form new states. Would a red state allow it? If you do you give two more senate seats and one rep to the dems.

Something to consider.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 10:49:31 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: ealgeone

It would probably work like that here in AZ, but I think that nationwide, there are more places where the urban libs are wagging the conservative rurals than the other way around. Plus, even if it were break-even, it would still dilute the liberal schemes for DC and Puerto Rico statehood, should those succeed.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 10:53:24 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“To form a new state, approval would be needed from voters, the Colorado General Assembly and U.S. Congress.”

I think it’s a great idea but the above sentence tells us we can forget about it actually happening.

Large urban areas are the ruination of America.


36 posted on 07/12/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Large urban areas are the ruination of America...Indeed!


37 posted on 07/12/2013 11:06:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

First Northern Colorado then...

Southern California quickly seceeds, followed by Southern New Jersey, Northwestern Florida, Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon. The latter two then merge to form Cascadia.

Long ignored by Annapolis and Baltimore, Eastern Maryland joins with the lower two counties, Kent and Sussex, of Delaware. The upper county, New Castle, rejoins Pennsylvania. However this proves too much for the rest of Pennsylvania and it splits into three states, Pittsburghia and Scrantonia, while leaving a Philadelphia-Wilmington-Camden ameoba of degeneracy and illiteracy to fail for itself.

Long Island then leaves New York State, which prompts everything north of Rockland County to go it alone, save for the People’s Republic of Ithaca, which remains an oblast of New York City.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 11:11:04 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Actually, if Denver, Boulder, and Aspen, would just disassociate from the state, we’d be fine.


39 posted on 07/12/2013 11:44:01 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: txrefugee
Texas needs to expel Austin for sure, then San Antonio and parts of Houston and Dallas. Because that won’t happen, West Texas, the most conservative part of the state, should become a state.

Hey, north San Antonio is pretty conservative - let's keep it with the rest Texas, and get rid of the south side. The rest I'll agree with.,p. A refugee from the PRNJ who LOVES Texas and (most) Texans.

40 posted on 07/12/2013 12:13:16 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: martin_fierro

I got some names ready,, Marihuanastan.. Googlia.. no?

OK, try ,,uhhh


41 posted on 07/12/2013 12:13:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: Ancesthntr; txrefugee
Correction:

Hey, north San Antonio is pretty conservative - let's keep it with the rest Texas, and get rid of the south side. The rest I'll agree with.

A refugee from the PRNJ who LOVES Texas and (most) Texans.

42 posted on 07/12/2013 12:14:17 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Still Thinking

43 posted on 07/12/2013 12:23:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Why not trade DENVER to LA for Northern California. It would be perfect.. LA and Denver can be models of LIBERALISM, while Northern CA and CO can be models of what red states can do!!


44 posted on 07/12/2013 12:35:05 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul in 2016)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

If these folks keep making up new states,

I think we will eventually prove Obamao right.

57 states


45 posted on 07/12/2013 12:48:37 PM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Starboard

Like Minnseapolis/St.Paul and Portlandia.


46 posted on 07/12/2013 3:32:07 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Quantum to lay off more than half of 305 employees in Colorado Springs

By Wayne Heilman Modified: July 18, 2013 at 6:43 am • Published: July 17, 2013 | 2:15 pm • 11

Quantum Corp. will lay off 170 of its 305 employees in Colorado Springs as the California-based maker of computer storage devices outsources its remaining manufacturing operations to a contractor in Alabama.

Brad Cohen, a Quantum spokesman in San Jose, said the company will complete the layoff and shift its manufacturing to Texas-based Benchmark Electronics during the next six months,. with most of the cuts coming after Jan. 1. Employees who are laid off will receive severance packages and outplacement assistance, he said.

The Quantum layoffs will further shrink an already struggling manufacturing sector in the Colorado Springs area. Manufacturing employment has declined by more than half since peaking at 26,700 in 2001 to 12,400 in May, the most recent data available. That is the fewest manufacturing workers in the area since July 1978.

http://gazette.com/quantum-to-lay-off-170-in-colorado-springs/article/1503595


47 posted on 07/18/2013 7:59:28 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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