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The National Guard to the Rescue in Chicago
NBC News.com ^ | July, 11, 2013 | Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News

Posted on 07/12/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by Q-ManRN

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To: Q-ManRN

Must be in all those neighborhoods full of creepy-ass-crackers. Or the Amish.


51 posted on 07/12/2013 4:30:19 PM PDT by wny
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To: Q-ManRN

This is the same mentality that kept Eric Holder’s people in New Orleans as Katrina bore down, the mentality that it is somebody else’ responsibility to save you.


52 posted on 07/12/2013 4:32:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed that one day pro wrestling would be less fake than mainstream journalism?)
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To: Q-ManRN

No state of emergency.

Posse Comitatus (erh however itz spelt)


53 posted on 07/12/2013 4:33:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Q-ManRN
“Hospitals are overburdened with 70 gunshot wounds in one day.

They should pass some laws restricting guns, and all their problems will disappear! /s

54 posted on 07/12/2013 4:34:19 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: dynachrome

I believe that is the goal of the libs


55 posted on 07/12/2013 4:35:06 PM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: Vendome
No state of emergency.
Posse Comitatus (erh however itz spelt)

PC is irrelevant; the IL Constitution specifically gives authority to the Governor to call on the militia to enforce law: see post 38.

56 posted on 07/12/2013 4:35:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lurker
In the neighborhoods she’s talking about I almost wouldn't mind seeing the Guard go in there with tanks and air support

Best not to waste the ammo unless homeland security wants to take care of it.

Perhaps marksmanship classes and some target practice. Way too much collateral damage by the local nationals.

57 posted on 07/12/2013 4:36:07 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Q-ManRN
Kent State- The Sequel.
58 posted on 07/12/2013 4:37:39 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progressive bifocals.)
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To: Q-ManRN

If they don’t like the moral standards of their Hood then they should start taking their Hood back themselves starting with their own house and own kids. The men should once again become such and the women glad of it.


59 posted on 07/12/2013 4:38:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cripplecreek
Then let the democrats do it because no conservative will ever live it down.

The problem with that attitude is precisely that it makes for republican governors that are afraid to act. Even when the action would be wholly directed against invaders (like this). In short, it makes for abdication of power [and responsibility] to the federal government -- results of which we are reaping with today's statist policies.

60 posted on 07/12/2013 4:39:08 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Q-ManRN

What advice could he have possibly given them?

May 10, 2013:

LITTLE ROCK — “Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel will give the commencement address at Saturday’s graduation ceremonies for the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service.”
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2013/may/10/rahm-emanuel-address-clinton-school-grads/


61 posted on 07/12/2013 4:39:30 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Q-ManRN

National Guardsmen have jobs. Who will support their families while they are guarding these murderous felons?


62 posted on 07/12/2013 4:44:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SunkenCiv

Some things are actually turning around in Detroit one neighborhood at a time. Big players moving in along with some big stores which are bringing jobs and money.

The grandson of one of my neighbors transferred to Detroit from NY a while back and says he loves it. All of his neighbors are high 5 to mid 6 figure coworkers from Quicken loans or JP Morgan. They got big bonuses for living in the city and the value of their dollar goes a lot further than it did in NY. He bought a decent home from a private owner and a lot on either side from the city for under $65 grand and all his neighbors are doing the same.

The guy says its actually got a small town feel with white picket fences and all. They pay for extra private security and the companies are paying for upgrades to power and sewer systems. He says that there are a few elderly blacks still in the neighborhood and couldn’t be happier to see what’s happening.


63 posted on 07/12/2013 4:46:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Why do they want the NG? All they’ll do is cry and riot when an NG kills some dirtbag who deserved it.

The reason why the cops can’t protect you is because you hate the cops and hamstring them at every turn. Stop complaining about getting exactly what you demand.


64 posted on 07/12/2013 4:47:56 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Maybe they’re doing this because they expect trouble after the Martin verdict.


65 posted on 07/12/2013 4:50:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Conservatives don’t want to fix anything. Look around FR.


66 posted on 07/12/2013 4:51:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Q-ManRN

““Every single day we wake up in the city of Chicago, some child, some young adult, some African-American male has been murdered,” state Rep. Monique Davis said Thursday. “This is not acceptable.”

Maybe you should talk to YOUR peeps about bringing morality back to YOUR African-American “culture”. The rest of us are sick of it and you.


67 posted on 07/12/2013 4:56:21 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Q-ManRN
“Every single day we wake up in the city of Chicago, some child, some young adult, some African-American male has been murdered,” state Rep. Monique Davis said Thursday. “This is not acceptable.
“I’m hearing from mothers that they are afraid to go outside,” she said. “Hospitals are overburdened with 70 gunshot wounds in one day. Ambulances are so busy people are driving victims in their own cars.”
Davis held a press conference this week to ask Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn to call in National Guard “to protect our children so they can go to the park and swim and play and have a childhood.” She said the governor has not responded."


The really sad thing is, the woman gets it, she just can't put the two plus two together to calculate which kids are causing this.

This doesn't get better until their community leaders stand up to them, and address this head on.

Tell the jerks this S better stop or else, I don't care if you're my color or not.

Who is it that is destroying these kid's future?  Their parents and public officials are.

Time for some tough love in the crib.

68 posted on 07/12/2013 4:58:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Q-ManRN

Gangbangers are always dissed and stay dissed.


69 posted on 07/12/2013 4:58:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: cripplecreek
Conservatives don’t want to fix anything. Look around FR.

Since I actually want to fix things & address issues… does that mean I'm not Conservative?

Ex:

Fiscal Responsibility Amendment
Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of the dollar is hereby repealed.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold with impurities not exceeding one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the weight in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt which shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold to be confiscated from a private citizen shall be tried for theft and upon convection shall:
  1. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
  2. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
  3. pay all legal costs, and
  4. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy

70 posted on 07/12/2013 4:59:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Average Al

Chicago with 3 M pop and Egypt with 85 M, you can see that Chicago would just rate one F-16!Also I’m only 10 miles west of O’Hare and do not need the noise.
Rostenkowski was able to snag an old Huey.
How about an AC-130 gunship, homeland security could help with ammo.
Or.
Perhaps a few UH-1 gunships they could park them at Meigs Field.


71 posted on 07/12/2013 5:00:26 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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The military exists to fight the enemy.
The police exist to protect the people

When the military becomes to police, the people become the enemy


72 posted on 07/12/2013 5:01:01 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Carry_Okie

Bingo! There is trouble brewing and they know it.


73 posted on 07/12/2013 5:02:14 PM PDT by the-gooroo
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To: DoughtyOne
“Every single day we wake up in the city of Chicago, some child, some young adult, some African-American male has been murdered,” state Rep. Monique Davis said Thursday. “This is not acceptable. “I’m hearing from mothers that they are afraid to go outside,” she said. “Hospitals are overburdened with 70 gunshot wounds in one day. Ambulances are so busy people are driving victims in their own cars.”

I believe this is the same moron who referred to the mayor of Chicago as Ron Emanuel.

Hey, Monique! Guess who is predominantly responsible for all those African-American males being murdered. Oh, yeah, other African-American males.
74 posted on 07/12/2013 5:03:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Yes, exactly! Duh...

How’s that gun control coming along Monique?


75 posted on 07/12/2013 5:05:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: the-gooroo
Bingo! There is trouble brewing and they know it.

Not quite. There is trouble brewing and they want to take advantage of it.

76 posted on 07/12/2013 5:09:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: Q-ManRN
Concealed carry has not been enacted in Chicago yet despite a recent court order and passage of a highly restrictive concealed carry law.

I'd argue what the State Legislature passed and over-rode Governor Quinn with isn't even a conceal/carry law. NOWHERE in the legislation that was passed is ANY Illinois Citizen able to carry a concealed loaded-weapon outside their home.

What passed is a "fanny pack" law. You can carry a handgun in a fanny pack, but it must be unloaded. You can carry ammunition on your person to "load the gun" when needed, but carrying a loaded weapon? Uh uh.

So here's what's gonna happen: "Wait Mr. Robber/Rapist/Burgler/Muderer! I have to load my handgun first to defend myself, because I'm a law-abiding citizen."

To which Robber/Rapist/Burbler/Murderer has their way with you as you fumble to load your weapon.

I cannot WAIT for this POS that the State Legislature to get appealed and over-turned by the Federal Appeals Court. Maybe then we'll have Constitutional Carry.

77 posted on 07/12/2013 5:09:58 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Q-ManRN

Did not IL just made CCW legal.


78 posted on 07/12/2013 5:12:33 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
NO, see post #77. Illinois does NOT have CCW, even though people are talking and acting like we do. Anyone who READS the bill see's what an abomination it is.

It was purposefully done to try and hoodwink the Federal Appeals Court. It needs to be appealed, struck down, and Illinois declared a Constitutional Carry state.

79 posted on 07/12/2013 5:15:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dsrtsage
When the military becomes to police, the people become the enemy

Look at the reactions to Snowden leaking the NSA's domestic snooping programs and you'll see that the people are the enemy already.

80 posted on 07/12/2013 5:24:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Q-ManRN
“Every single day we wake up in the city of Chicago, some child, some young adult, some African-American male has been murdered,” state Rep. Monique Davis said Thursday.

They must have a lot of creepy ass crackers up there.

81 posted on 07/12/2013 5:31:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Q-ManRN

If the people of Chicago are unable to govern themselves, then they should not be able to vote in county, state or national elections. The Democrats would tighten them up in about two minutes.


82 posted on 07/12/2013 5:31:32 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Q-ManRN
The war on crime is lost in Chicago. America must pull out immediately to avoid useless casualties. Turn this bastion of corruption over to the feral youts and gang bangers.
83 posted on 07/12/2013 5:34:24 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If they arm the insurgents perhaps they will overthrow the Muslim Brotherhood Chicago regime. ;-)


84 posted on 07/12/2013 5:35:24 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: Moonman62
If you're talking about me, you should ping me /sarc
85 posted on 07/12/2013 5:37:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Did not know that.

thnx


86 posted on 07/12/2013 5:45:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: grobdriver

OMG.. They need A fence, I’ll bet they get a fence before the states get one to protect our nation’s border...


87 posted on 07/12/2013 5:47:39 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: Bogey78O

They should call George Zimmerman after he walks away from the FAUX trial in Florida.. Maybe he can form a neighborhood watch program in Chicago.. It won’t hurt, really... :)


88 posted on 07/12/2013 5:54:23 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“......you would have another Trayvon martin case on our hands.”...

Or far worse. ANY white guardsman/woman that shot ANY black kid would probably not even get out of the area alive themselves.


89 posted on 07/12/2013 6:02:08 PM PDT by Progov (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Q-ManRN

Ironic how Progressive sh!tholes need the National Guard to police the police and restore order. Seems like several years ago they were thinking of sending the National Guard into D.C. to restore order.


90 posted on 07/12/2013 6:05:34 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The short list would be the list of all administration officials that are NOT pathological liars!)
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To: Q-ManRN
Davis held a press conference this week to ask Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn to call in National Guard “to protect our children so they can go to the park and swim and play and have a childhood.” She said the governor has not responded."

And the second a white Guardsman shoots a black thug, a large chunk of the black population of Chicago will be burning down anything they can find after they steal the contents.

No thanks, we've been suckered into this too many times before. Sad to say, you are on your own until you get better organized and definitely on the right side of the battle.

91 posted on 07/12/2013 6:13:40 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: grobdriver
Chicago and Detroit.......

Co-Capitals of Bumphuceestawwn.

Flush until clean.....

92 posted on 07/12/2013 6:17:24 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Q-ManRN

US National Guard are local to their areas. What is going on in Chi-town, is to enable locals to brown shirt neighborhoods, vis-à-vis background federal control- by legal side stepping of posse comitatus. Once a challenge is made to the US Constitution. it takes at least 8 yrs to court. In the mean time, the Executive and Legislative can run amok- by a subservient armed/unarmed populace. Protections from abuse, by elected servants, are now longer codified by the US Constitution. Do the next right thing, no matter what, citizen.


93 posted on 07/12/2013 6:31:27 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks cc.


94 posted on 07/12/2013 9:36:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: cripplecreek; Bob Ireland; SunkenCiv

Community improvement projects sound wonderful. Where I live, they built a nice open neighborhood to offset the other degrading crime-ridden neighborhoods in this area. They brought in high-end shops and stores too. And that brought in wealthier, higher class people.

Of course, it did not take the criminals long to figure out where the real money was. If the criminals are going to risk jail robbing people, they might as well rob someone rich with possessions worth having as opposed to robbing the poor in their own neighborhoods.

Decent people are starting to move out of that newer and nicer neighborhood as are some of the businesses. I predict that neighborhood will be rundown eventually.

The City of Detroit is bankrupt financially and morally because of liberal politicians and unions. Banks like JP Morgan can build nice neighborhoods to put a nice window dressing over these underlying issues. They can make gated communities and hire guards that protect the chosen few.

The real question in these areas is how do those that are not “chosen” live?

Without change that emphasizes personal moral responsibility, fiscal restraint, limited government, and recognition of the right of decent private citizens to defend themselves and their communities against violent criminals, these cities are doomed to poverty and despair.

Throwing money at societal problems does not solve those problems as our public education system proves handily.


95 posted on 07/13/2013 7:57:54 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Its important to note that Detroit is an open and concealed carry city.

Not everybody has what it takes to make a difference and for the most part conservatism is in a state of complete moral breakdown with nothing but anger and destruction.


96 posted on 07/13/2013 8:04:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That same regressive mentality also got lots of decent property owners in New Orleans disarmed, arrested, and even beaten by law enforcement when they took personal responsibility for defending themselves and their property.

So, you can see where it is a no-win scenario where regressive politicians like Ray Nagan rule.


97 posted on 07/13/2013 8:33:49 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Here is a suggestion: get out of Chicago now!

And seal the border!


98 posted on 07/13/2013 8:35:27 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is destroying the USA.)
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To: cripplecreek

The law in Dtroit may allow open and concealed carry; however, that does not mean that liberal-minded prosecutors, liberal-minded police, and liberal-minded citizens are accepting of it. Going to court to defend your rights can cost your job as well as lots of money and time whereas prosecutors and police have political protection with the taxpayer as an unlimited financial resource.

Conservatives are rising to meet the challenges; however, it is going to be long frustrating battle to restore our Constitutional Republic and decent people still have to make a living and raise their families.


99 posted on 07/13/2013 8:55:22 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Well you say a lot. I guess that’s something in your world.


100 posted on 07/13/2013 9:02:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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