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To: Blood of Tyrants

Europe didn’t die at Auschwitz.

Europe died in the mud of Verdun, the Somme, Paaschendaele and a hundred other stinking hellholes that killed 10,000 men a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year for over four years.

Auschwitz just represented the death throes of a dying civilization.

19 posted on 07/12/2013 7:08:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring; henkster; donmeaker
DuncanWaring: "Europe didn’t die at Auschwitz.
Europe died in the mud of Verdun, the Somme..."

I don't agree with that in the least, and here's why:

If you set as your standard the US Civil War of 1861-1865 -- for the "maximum military deaths" a civilization can endure and still prosper: that number is 2.2% of the population.

In the First World War, the only nations which exceeded 2.2% military deaths were France (3.5%), Germany (3.1%) and Turkey (3.6%).
Britain suffered 1.9% deaths, Russia 1% and the USA .1%.

Overall, Europe suffered 1% military deaths in the Great War -- fewer than half US deaths in the Civil War.
So European civilization was no more "dead" in 1919 than was the US in 1865.

But there was a huge difference between 1865 and 1919, and in a word, that difference was: Democrat President Woodrow Wilson.

The US Civil War ended with Unconditional Surrender of Confederates, complete US victory and quick recovery of "American Civilization's" dynamic growth.

The First World War ended according to President Wilson's idea of "peace without victory", with undefeated Germany still eager for Round Two.
So Europe did not die at the Somme, it was killed by a US President too eager to make nicey-nicey with people who truly needed to be utterly defeated and unconditionally surrender.

That took a Second World War, with another 75+ million deaths, at which point European Civilization was prostrate and no longer in control of its destiny.

Today? Well... we will never again see 1914 when the Great War began, or even 1991 when it finally, finally ended.
But there is nothing which guarantees US hegemony forever, and strong partnerships can easily allow one or the other partner to become "senior" as conditions dictate.

Our current Democrat "lead from behind" administration comes to mind...

62 posted on 07/14/2013 8:27:52 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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