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Zimmerman Trial - DELIBERATIONS: Two Hours Into Deliberations Jury Had Question (VIDEO)
YOUTUBE ^ | 07/12/2013 | Michael Mortimer

Posted on 07/13/2013 4:52:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: RobertClark

In my experience educated women will approach their task professionally and methodically.

They had a two week trial they were not going to jump to a verdict in two hours.

Yes just about everyone on here wanted them to stand up in their chairs without even leaving the courtroom, and shout Not Guilty! Not going to happen. We do not control the jury.

I agree 100% the state did NOT prove Zimmerman to be guilty of anything.

However, the issue always has been was he justified to fire his weapon under the circumstances. Had the state not overreached, that issue would have been more clear. But the manslaughter charge is there and it’s possible the jury will conclude he should not have fired.

If they do that it will be based on his muttered comment at the beginning, the idea that his injuries were not that severe, that he was no longer over the cement, that he knew the police were about to get there, and that they don’t believe TM threatened him with death.

Unfair in my opinion, but plausible. The state obfuscated this whole thing because they didn’t want to admit Zimmerman was on the ground getting beat up.


81 posted on 07/13/2013 7:18:32 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: miss marmelstein

I usually get rejected, but in my one big case we got it right. Yes, they withheld important information, but we still got the correct verdict. Better I should be on the jury (if I don’t get bumped) than some moron who can’t think and doesn’t know the Constitution should be there.


82 posted on 07/13/2013 7:23:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 426cuda

Agree with Ann Coulter and you. The police at all levels investigated and they held the line and did not want to charge. That is good. But political pressure was used to demand a trial for racial reasons. That is bad and helps identify where the cowardice resides in this society.

A just society would have told their police to call it straight down the line, then told the community tough luck, we are doing this by the book and don’t you dare riot.

We don’t live in that society, we live in one intimidated along racial lines by leftists. IF we had fair observers in our society we would recognize this is as evil as lynch mobbing blacks to trial decades ago.


83 posted on 07/13/2013 7:23:55 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I would simply say “you are stupid, obnoxious,” etc. Nothing could make me change my mind under those circumstances.


84 posted on 07/13/2013 7:30:41 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

They are saying on our local Fox that a whistleblower who works inside the state of Florida’s Jacksonville office (legal technician) tried to get out data to the defense about Trayvon’s drug use and photos of him with firearms though the state attorney’s office put those pictures back deliberate.

The technician was so concerned of the violations that he contacted O’Mara’s office to let him know that these photos should be given to him as evidence but they were being held back by Mr. Guy’s office in Jacksonville.

The technician was fired this morning they just reported. They are saying it’s a big political scandal being covered up. They said lawsuits will be flying over the place.

If he were to be charged, this will give him more proof the court withheld evidence at the time of discovery. The judge could be dirty/certainty bias. She knew this was the defense’s concerns and never ruled on to allow them to have this evidence.

Just wait until those jurors find out little angel boy had an interest in guns and pics of him holding a gun.


85 posted on 07/13/2013 7:31:44 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Williams

BRAVO to your statement!


86 posted on 07/13/2013 7:32:38 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Christie at the beach

Didn’t Obama just tell govt. employees to snitch on one another? Geesh! The IT guy was only seeing something wrong and pointing it out!


87 posted on 07/13/2013 7:33:55 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Christie at the beach

Angela Corey is an evil witch.


88 posted on 07/13/2013 7:35:39 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Pollster1

The problem is you can get stuck on a jury and act like Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men and still come out with a bum verdict. The last time I served (and I will not serve again!), we had a fellow juror - a Korean immigrant - who didn’t know what the 5th Amendment was. And once he heard what it was, he didn’t like it! It would be funny if not so tragic.


89 posted on 07/13/2013 7:39:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To me this means they are all not agreeing. Whether it means that there is one or two holdouts either way it would be impossible to say.


90 posted on 07/13/2013 7:42:40 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: MHT
I don't think that they can have any outside information but a lawyer's wife may be aware of manslaughter sentencing but not necessarily. My guess is that she has been voted as foreman. My hope is that she won't go along to get along with a couple of others who may be unconvinced beyond a shadow of a doubt but living in fear of retribution.

If there's a holdout for acquittal, I prefer it to be a woman than a man. It's been my experience that, in a group of women, a man disagreeing with a woman will have the rest gang up on him.

91 posted on 07/13/2013 7:43:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

She is mean, I agree.


92 posted on 07/13/2013 7:46:27 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: PapaBear3625

It is my understanding that a grand jury looked at the evidence and came up with the one charge of second degree. If they wanted manslaughter, they would have charged manslaughter. This judge invalidated the work of a grand jury so why call a grand jury to begin with?


93 posted on 07/13/2013 7:59:18 AM PDT by MHT
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To: All

I don’t know about everyone else but I have a hard enough time trying to figure out what one woman is thinking.. I can’t pretend to even begin to believe I can figure out what six are thinking about.


94 posted on 07/13/2013 8:04:53 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: MHT
It is my understanding that a grand jury looked at the evidence and came up with the one charge of second degree. If they wanted manslaughter, they would have charged manslaughter. This judge invalidated the work of a grand jury so why call a grand jury to begin with?

There was NO grand jury. The state (via Corey) bypassed the grand jury (since they were afraid the gj would no bill) and issued the charges themselves. That is one of the many scandals/shady practices in this trial...

95 posted on 07/13/2013 8:15:09 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Clump

96 posted on 07/13/2013 8:20:07 AM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: Williams

Very well stated. Another Ann Coulter quote. “Better to be a wanna be cop than a wanna be thug.”


97 posted on 07/13/2013 8:28:15 AM PDT by 426cuda
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To: SeekAndFind

They could spend a year looking for evidence that Zimmerman is guilty and still not find it cuz it isn’t there. This should already be a done deal.


98 posted on 07/13/2013 8:35:12 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

Why they wouldn’t bring all the evidence to the jury room out of the gate is beyond me!
I thought the Defense was masterful with the life size cutouts displayed behind them in line of sight of the jury during closing arguments. It constantly speaks to the subconscious of the jury. Who was the bigger man? You can only draw one conclusion!


99 posted on 07/13/2013 8:38:02 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: RobertClark

Maybe it just means they all like the Saturday morning pancake buffet at the hotel?????


100 posted on 07/13/2013 9:57:43 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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