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[CT] State Police To Gunmakers: No More Advice On Law
The Hartford Courant ^ | July 12, 2013 | Dan Haar

Posted on 07/13/2013 5:28:04 AM PDT by Daffynition

Back in May, a month after Gov. Dannel P. Malloy signed the state’s gun control law, Stag Arms of New Britain came up with a modified design and took it to the state police firearms unit to see whether it would pass muster.

The unit was helpful, even making a design suggestion that would help assure the gun would not be classified as an illegal assault weapon. Stag prepared to make the rifle, a .22-caliber version of the military-style AR-15.

Then in June, the state legislature tightened the law in order to correct a few problems. Stag returned with an updated model, seeking an opinion.

But this time, the firearms unit had a different answer.

“I was told to get a lawyer, figure it out and if I’m wrong I’m going to have to deal with it,” said Mark Malkowski, the Stag Arms owner and president. “It’s my responsibility to interpret…I was told we were no longer allowed to bring prototypes in.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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*We don't know. We didn't know we didn't know. We didn't know we were supposed to know.*

“People were calling us for interpretations and we hadn’t even read the bill ourselves.”

1 posted on 07/13/2013 5:28:04 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Why is any firearms manufacturer still being in CT?

WAKE UP!! THEY DON’T WANT YOU IN CT!! MOVE NOW BEFORE YOU ARE ARRESTED!! IT AIN’T GOING TO GET ANY BETTER!!

And to the NSA trolls, FU.


2 posted on 07/13/2013 5:33:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Daffynition

Very simple.

Make a law that people can’t avoid breaking. Then selectively enforce it to get the desired results.

It’s called fascism.

Stag stays in CT, it deserves to pay every dollar it get fined.


3 posted on 07/13/2013 5:36:39 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Daffynition
To all gun manufacturers in CT:

Take a hint. We don't like you, we don't need you and we don't want you. Hit the road and take it somewhere else.

Gov. Malloy

4 posted on 07/13/2013 5:37:51 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Daffynition

I’m damned sure that ifI make a purchase online or in a store, I’ll make absolutely sure that the product is not from or purchased from CT, CA, and all those other places that are vehement anti-gun zealots. I’m tired of buying from controllers. Colt - you’d better take notice.


5 posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Daffynition

The CT state police are under political orders to willfully allow citizens to break laws, is that it?
People generally WANT to follow the rules. By not allowing the people to know what the rules are, the state seeks to entrap the people.
Is this any way to govern a citizenry?
From the lowest levels of government to the highest levels, those in power skirt or ignore the law. What recourse to this do we have, but to become cynical scofflaws ourselves.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 5:55:12 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Gaffer

*We don’t know. We didn’t know we didn’t know. We didn’t know we were supposed to know.* ....

If “law enforcement” doesn’t know the law, how the hell can they enforce it?

If I owned STAG Arms, I’d be looking for a new address in another state.


7 posted on 07/13/2013 5:56:47 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Progov

bttt


8 posted on 07/13/2013 5:58:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Progov

Me too. I guess now the ATF will stop issuing their bullshit opinion letters?

I’m just not gonna buy any gun or ammo or whatever from an enemy state any longer. It takes time to find out when you’re shopping, but choking off their out-of-state resources is a start.


9 posted on 07/13/2013 5:59:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Daffynition
Dear gun makers - It's time for you guys to read the writing on the wall.

There are states out there that do not share Connecticut's anti-gun bias, where taxes are cheaper, the business environment is better, and the deck isn't stacked against you.

Take your company, along with the taxes you pay, along with the jobs you create and the taxes your employees pay and move to a state where you will be treated with appreciation.

10 posted on 07/13/2013 5:59:41 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Daffynition

Dannel has basically told the gun manufacturers , leave and take your stinkin’ high paying , highly skilled jobs with you. CT’s future belongs to the newly minted, low skill, underpaid citizen.


11 posted on 07/13/2013 6:10:41 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Thumper1960
People generally WANT to follow the rules. By not allowing the people to know what the rules are, the state seeks to entrap the people.
Is this any way to govern a citizenry?

Kind of the same way 0bamacare was passed, and is being implemented.
To this day does anyone really know what's in the law?

12 posted on 07/13/2013 6:12:31 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Progov

>>If “law enforcement” doesn’t know the law, how the hell can they enforce it?

In the police state that the US has become, the cops enforce the law based on your “attitude” and their mood. There are too many laws for anyone to enforce them all, so law “enforcement” just does what it pleases.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 6:13:49 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Daffynition
Isn't interesting what happens when businesses businesses work in concert with government? The whole business-government "partnership" has been going on for years. It results in campaign contributions to politicians. Which, in turn, results in corporate welfare. The businesses that partner with government obtain unfair advantage over those that do not. Label this what you want, either statism, fascism or something else.

Now things have progressed beyond that in many states. It is approaching totalitarianism. Companies like Stag Arms is part of the problem. They attempted to work with government when they should have moved to a free state. Now government isn't willing to work with them. Stag had every right to protest and lobby legislators. I'm sure they did, but they loss. The second step that they could have taken (hopefully they will still take) is leave a business and gun unfriendly state. There are plenty of states that have lower taxes, less regulation, better standards of living and strong 2a rights.

Stag needs to hurt CT in the pocket book by leaving CT.

14 posted on 07/13/2013 6:16:37 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (.Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: Daffynition

If I were in a 2nd Amendment supporting state and in a position to offer support to gun/ammo manufactures in 2nd Amendment unfriendly states I’d be burning up the phone lines and making trips to those facilities to entice them to leave where they are not wanted and come to where their efforts are appreciated.

There can be no excuse for a firm who depends on a core element of the constitution to remain in a constitution unfriendly state and effectively fund and support your sworn enemy.

Just think of how many businesses SHOULD move to areas of the country more agreeable with their products.

IE: For a multitude of reasons the auto industry should move out of states with enviro-wackos and union thuggery.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 6:18:07 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Daffynition

The polarization between elitist statist thugs and people who still believe in the Constitution and freedom has reached the point of no return- the tipping point. Short of total ccapitulation by one side or the other another civil war is inevitable.


16 posted on 07/13/2013 6:30:11 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Daffynition
"“People were calling us for interpretations and we hadn’t even read the bill ourselves.”

What the Stag Arms people need to do is to ask the state Attorney General (or the state Attorney General's office staff) rather than the police. The cops are right in this case....their job is to enforce the law, not interpret it.

17 posted on 07/13/2013 6:32:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

If they can’t explain the law they don’t understand it. If they don’t understand it they can’t enforce.

I totally disagree


18 posted on 07/13/2013 6:42:25 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Daffynition
MOVE already...
19 posted on 07/13/2013 6:44:50 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Daffynition

Maybe the Stag owner will get the message when he takes a weapon in to get a determination..and the State Patrol arrests him.

“No sir, your prototype weapon does not conform to the new rules. Oh, and by the way, you’re under arrest. Please put your hands behind your back...”


20 posted on 07/13/2013 6:54:23 AM PDT by moovova
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