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Obama Remark Is Complicating Military Trials
New York Times ^ | July 13, 2013 | JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 07/13/2013 5:11:49 PM PDT by reaganaut1

WASHINGTON — When President Obama proclaimed that those who commit sexual assault in the military should be “prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court-martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged,” it had an effect he did not intend: muddying legal cases across the country.

In at least a dozen sexual assault cases since the president’s remarks at the White House in May, judges and defense lawyers have said that Mr. Obama’s words as commander in chief amounted to “unlawful command influence,” tainting trials as a result. Military law experts said that those cases were only the beginning and that the president’s remarks were certain to complicate almost all prosecutions for sexual assault.

“Unlawful command influence” refers to actions of commanders that could be interpreted by jurors as an attempt to influence a court-martial, in effect ordering a specific outcome. Mr. Obama, as commander in chief of the armed forces, is considered the most powerful person to wield such influence.

The president’s remarks might have seemed innocuous to civilians, but military law experts say defense lawyers will seize on the president’s call for an automatic dishonorable discharge, the most severe discharge available in a court-martial, arguing that his words will affect their cases.

“His remarks were more specific than I’ve ever heard a commander in chief get,” said Thomas J. Romig, a former judge advocate general of the Army and the dean of the Washburn University School of Law in Topeka, Kan. “When the commander in chief says they will be dishonorably discharged, that’s a pretty specific message. Every military defense counsel will make a motion about this.”

At Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina last month, a judge dismissed charges of sexual assault against an Army officer, noting the command influence issue.

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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; blunders; cicobama; criminalpresident; democrats; obama; sexoffenders
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1 posted on 07/13/2013 5:11:49 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

The smartest man in the room does it again.


2 posted on 07/13/2013 5:14:41 PM PDT by AU72
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To: reaganaut1

I just finished a novel by Nelson DeMille called “Word of Honor”. I sense that you would enjoy it, I certainly did.


3 posted on 07/13/2013 5:15:52 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: reaganaut1
it had an effect he did not intend
4 posted on 07/13/2013 5:16:09 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1
it had an effect he did not intend

say's who?

5 posted on 07/13/2013 5:16:30 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1

And that clown is the CIC .... wonder he didn’t say “if I had a son, he would be like....”.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 5:16:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The short list would be the list of all administration officials that are NOT pathological liars!)
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7 posted on 07/13/2013 5:16:56 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Typical Obama making a pandering, political statement and clueless about his role as president, let alone CinC.


8 posted on 07/13/2013 5:22:32 PM PDT by Will88
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That joke of a CiC is an IMBECILE!


9 posted on 07/13/2013 5:32:30 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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The emperor has no clothes and he was void of clothes since 2008


10 posted on 07/13/2013 5:32:59 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: reaganaut1

He did it to protect homosexuals assaulting their peers.


11 posted on 07/13/2013 5:35:12 PM PDT by gusopol3
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12 posted on 07/13/2013 5:37:36 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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How about when the Prezzy of the US says that a dead mugger looks like the son he never had?


13 posted on 07/13/2013 5:37:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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good book...
14 posted on 07/13/2013 5:38:30 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: reaganaut1

As a constitutional law professor he makes a wonderful school crossing guard.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 5:39:23 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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How about opening fire among fellow soldiers, killing 13 of them? Do THEY get prosecuted and stripped of their positions?


16 posted on 07/13/2013 5:40:33 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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http://www.court-martial.com/Reading/Unlawful-Command-Influence-UCI.shtml


17 posted on 07/13/2013 5:41:03 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: reaganaut1

He did it on purpose you can bet your farm on that.


18 posted on 07/13/2013 5:41:47 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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He’ll just call it “workplace violence” and hope his fellow Jihadi skates.


19 posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: reaganaut1

Can’t we just all meet at the WH for a beer and let him start all over?

Between him and Holder we won’t have a court system left in the country, including the military.


20 posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:22 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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