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Why Conservative Americans Admire Putin
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/15-07-2013/125127-conservative_americans_putin-0/ ^

Posted on 07/15/2013 3:38:20 AM PDT by kronos77

After the Great Patriotic War, Americans looked at Russians as atheists and communists. Russians were viewed as intelligent but liars and devils not to be trusted. When Solzhenitsyn came to America he was looked upon as a hero from the Soviet Union by the American press. The US media later portrayed him in a negative way calling him naïve and ignorant of American society even though Solzhenitsyn was only pointing out the truth known by many conservative Americans. His 1978 speech in this video in America at the Harvard University is not only true about America but prophetic as well. Solzhenitsyn knew communism was infecting society and saw its effect. He also saw "Destructive and irresponsible freedom" in America. Solzhenitsyn says in the USA, "Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, motion pictures full of pornography, crime and horror. It is considered to be part of freedom and theoretically counter-balanced by the young people's right not to look or not to accept. Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil." The US media made sure his words were ignored by many and society has become much worse in the last twenty years in America.

At another time he warns not only Americans but Russians as well, "We should teach future generations so they can avoid the mistakes of those who turn away from God. Otherwise, they will suffer the same fate as those who were murdered." Many conservative Americans understood Solzhenitsyn as they knew America was changing for the worse at that time.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 07/15/2013 3:38:20 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77

I see Pravda is reverting back to it’s old ways.


2 posted on 07/15/2013 3:48:41 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

G-d help me, but Pravda makes more sense to me than most stuff from the American MSM these daze.


3 posted on 07/15/2013 3:50:40 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: kronos77

Not too fond of Putins politics but at least he is a man,
Not a wall flower fag like obammy


4 posted on 07/15/2013 3:55:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: kronos77

he is an enigma. I am not sure what his politics are, except the politics of Putin remaining leader of Russia and a world leader.

He talks the talk and walks the walk. He is a REAL MAN....which is something we have not had in the oval office for 4+ years. and I am not putting Bush up on a pedestal as a president...only as a MAN.


5 posted on 07/15/2013 4:05:54 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kronos77

That’s because Putin is doing a better job of watching out for our interests.


6 posted on 07/15/2013 4:06:08 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: kronos77
It's because Russian and Chinese leaders realize deep inside that they are dependent on America to stay afloat themselves.

7 posted on 07/15/2013 4:13:14 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: kronos77

From the article -

However, when they watch Obama destroying their own country with no hero to save them they become frustrated and look to Putin. Although they hear the same mantra from their TV that Putin is a dictator, Putin is evil, Putin is a murderer; from the internet they see him kneeling at Christ’s Holy Sepulcher which Obama never does when visiting Jerusalem. They see him going to church when they know Obama favors Muslims. They see Putin establishing laws to protect the church and laws against homosexuality. This they admire and this brings them hope. Hope in their crazy world where there is a leader willing to follow Christ. They have no Reagan but they see Putin whom they wish was their president. They write me,

“One of my fantasies is to kidnap Vladimir Putin and make him the leader of the US.” - Jim

“The fact that Putin allows Christianity is an AMAZING thing, while Christians, true ones, are persecuted in anti christ America.” - Robert

“Putin has encouraged the nation of Russia to return to spiritual values, whereas the US. is going in the opposite direction. “ - Glen

“It is a shame that it takes someone from Russia to speak the truth that our media refuses to do. The reason they don’t is because they are communists themselves. “ - Steve


8 posted on 07/15/2013 4:13:36 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Vaquero

Russia is always an enigma, Churchill was right on that.


9 posted on 07/15/2013 4:13:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Usagi_yo

There is more truth in Pravda than the la slimes and the ny slimes put together.

LLS


10 posted on 07/15/2013 4:20:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: kronos77

Putin just threw over his wife of many years for some acrobat. Give me a break about how devout he is.


11 posted on 07/15/2013 4:38:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Bingo. And I don’t think it is his single con.


12 posted on 07/15/2013 4:42:25 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: kronos77

Umm, I don’t trust Putin at all.


13 posted on 07/15/2013 4:44:14 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: kronos77

I think this article misses the mark on American Christians. I certainly have never held any ill feeling towards the Russian Orthodox Church, and have never witnessed such feelings from anyone else. In fact, I greatly admire the Church for what it has done in Russia. It’s survival is a testament to the power of our Lord.

I don’t trust Putin, but I don’t really trust ANY foreign leader. Heck, I sure as hell don’t trust our foreign leader, Barack Hussein Milhaus Obama! I’d say that to distrust leaders is very healthy and the Founders encouraged it.

With regards to Christianity vis-a-vis Russia/America. Yes, Russia is becoming a safe haven for Christians while America is turning into the United Soviet States of Sodom, or the USSS.


14 posted on 07/15/2013 5:08:56 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: kronos77

When compared to obama, Putin seems to be a rational individual and a leader.

But I still would not trust him, anymore than I would trust obama.


15 posted on 07/15/2013 5:14:19 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: kronos77

I don’t so much TRUST Putin as RESPECT him.

Whereas I neither trust nor respect Obama. . .


16 posted on 07/15/2013 5:44:14 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Vaquero

In describing Putin, you state: he is an enigma. I am not sure what his politics are
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And my response: No more so than our putative president.


17 posted on 07/15/2013 5:45:18 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: freedomfiter2
That’s because Putin is doing a better job of watching out for our interests.

In a time that has past, I would have said that is the dumbest thing I've ever read on FR.

In the present time, that is a very astute and intelligent observation.

5.56mm

18 posted on 07/15/2013 5:56:07 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: iontheball

I firmly believe our _resident of the White Hut is a dyed in the wool Marxist. Not a stretch really. and one who will ‘Stand with Islam’(in his own words) if it comes to a battle.


19 posted on 07/15/2013 5:56:51 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Salgak
“I don’t so much TRUST Putin as RESPECT him.

Whereas I neither trust nor respect Obama. . .”

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My thoughts exactly.

20 posted on 07/15/2013 6:07:32 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: kronos77
This is not true:

"Most Americans are Protestant and do not see the Orthodox faith as valid. Many think little of Catholics and see the Orthodox faith as being worse."

The disease of decadence has brought American Christians together, respecting one another as Christians, as never before.

21 posted on 07/15/2013 6:14:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: kronos77

I don’t admire one fascist over another just because Putin appears stronger. This is bull crap.


22 posted on 07/15/2013 6:18:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: kronos77

Putin is about the same as a Mafia thug. He will do whatever it takes to get what he wants — lie, steal, kill, torture, subvert democracy. You may need to be a “tough guy” or a “man’s man” to do those things, but that certainly doesn’t make him admirable. And sure, he may be religious and people may find his defense of religion admirable, but a lot of Mafiosos went to church on a regular basis too.


23 posted on 07/15/2013 6:19:03 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: bmwcyle

Russians don’t have gay pride marches in their army...

Putin won his election against the Communist party.


24 posted on 07/15/2013 6:21:11 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: kronos77
This also is not true:

"American Christians do not respect Christianity in Russia. Most do not know the churches are open and are very beautiful."

Americans tend to view the power of Christianity in Russia as proof of the triumph of truth over atheism, of goodness over evil, and of the Russian people over communism and totalitarianism, and the beauty of Russian churches is legendary throughout the world.

25 posted on 07/15/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: kronos77

Perhaps we like Putin (even when he is a pain) because he is unabashedly pro-Putin, and pro-Russia in a way we wish our own president would be?


26 posted on 07/15/2013 6:26:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Viennacon
The fake "atheists" had so much fun destroying white Christian culture with things like gay marriage, they can now have fun playing 'spread the other cheek' for their new Islamic masters. There is simply no Christian cause in Western Europe to defend them anymore, no more white knights to take up the banner of St. George's Cross... Eastern Europe is still Orthodox Christian like Russia, and that is where the Order of the Dragon came from.
27 posted on 07/15/2013 6:27:24 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
HAHAHAHAHA, Putin fixed the election and he changed the rules so he could be put back in office. Hint, stay away from shiny objects so you don't get distracted.
28 posted on 07/15/2013 6:30:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: kronos77

I respect Putin - he’s a real man, and he’s loyal to his country. I trust Putin a whole lot more than I trust the communist in our White House. Putin will act against America’s interests about half the time, and the drug-addled thug from Kenya/Hawaii/Indonesia/Chicago will act against our interests twice as often. Putin lies smoothly but tells the truth unless there is a reason to lie. Our Dear Leader only tells the truth on rare occasions.


29 posted on 07/15/2013 6:30:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: PoloSec

When compared to obama, Putin seems to be a rational individual and a leader.

But I still would not trust him, anymore than I would trust obama.

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Well said.

Also, Putin seems to love his country. Obamao hates ours.


30 posted on 07/15/2013 6:41:53 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Bigg Red
But I still would not trust him, anymore than I would trust obama.

Trust, but verify.

31 posted on 07/15/2013 6:43:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Pollster1
Our Dear Leader only tells the truth...

By accident.

32 posted on 07/15/2013 6:56:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kronos77
Wait a minute! I do not admire Putin. You can take the man out of the KGB, but you can never take the KGB out of the man---It shows!

vaudine

33 posted on 07/15/2013 6:57:22 AM PDT by vaudine
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Bullshit...

The U.S. State Dept. tried to hijack the Russian election with non-profit NGOs...

Putin beat them, so that queer Pussy Riot band on the State Dept. payroll staged an attack on the Russian Orthodox church and Madonna was flown in as a provocateur.

Russia cracked down on non-profits and the faggots for this reason.

You think Russians don’t know Marxists when they see them?


34 posted on 07/15/2013 7:00:57 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: vaudine

He is of authentic Russian birth and loves his country.

You can’t say the same about yours.


35 posted on 07/15/2013 7:02:31 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
No, I can't say that about our Emperor in Chief; however, I believe Putin loves power,not country--has that in common with the Pretentious Pretender.

vaudine

36 posted on 07/15/2013 7:07:59 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Vaquero

Man...woman...he’s an FN commie and I hate commies!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 07/15/2013 7:25:40 AM PDT by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences......)
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To: kronos77
~ Of course: Their Guy ~

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Our Guy

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38 posted on 07/15/2013 7:36:42 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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“Article is not published” is what I found at the link.


39 posted on 07/15/2013 7:43:57 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Blacksheep

I don’t know what Putin is.

I do no obama is a friggin Marxist and that being said that I assume you mean that us who you hate.

If not, you are not looking at the real Marxist. Zer0 and his Commie American Regime.


40 posted on 07/15/2013 8:11:39 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kronos77
Putin respects, appreciates and honors Russian military personnel and Veterans, which is why I and countless others respect him as a leader. 0bama despises our modern military, and he hates our Veterans too.

Putin is a man's man and a patriot, whereas 0bama is a closet homosexual from a foreign country.

These reasons are among many why I respect Putin more.


41 posted on 07/15/2013 8:37:05 AM PDT by Prole
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To: vaudine

Have you ever been to Russia or anywhere outside of the country?

It might shock you to learn that not everything works the same way in your little world you see on CNN.


42 posted on 07/15/2013 2:58:38 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Vaquero
I don’t know what Putin is. He is a Russian.
43 posted on 07/15/2013 2:59:43 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Vaquero
I don’t know what Putin is.

He is a Russian.

Case closed.

44 posted on 07/15/2013 3:00:14 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: yldstrk

Putin is heterosexual...


45 posted on 07/15/2013 3:00:54 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

That’s a out it.


46 posted on 07/15/2013 3:06:03 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

That’s ABOUT it. ( Stupid iPhone )


47 posted on 07/15/2013 3:07:46 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kronos77

Evil wears many faces and lies. It always lies.


48 posted on 07/15/2013 3:21:26 PM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

check it out, she’s an acrobat, did you think I was saying otherwise?


49 posted on 07/15/2013 3:51:52 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Putin is about the same as a Mafia thug. He will do whatever it takes to get what he wants — lie, steal, kill, torture, subvert democracy. You may need to be a “tough guy” or a “man’s man” to do those things, but that certainly doesn’t make him admirable. And sure, he may be religious and people may find his defense of religion admirable, but a lot of Mafiosos went to church on a regular basis too.

Well put.

I'm not sure Putin really is authentically religious, but who can say?

50 posted on 07/15/2013 4:22:20 PM PDT by x
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