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California insurance commissioner: We could “have a real disaster on our hands” with [ObamaCare]
Hot Air ^ | July 14, 3013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 07/15/2013 4:43:22 AM PDT by Zakeet

Complete Headline: California insurance commissioner: We could “have a real disaster on our hands” with identify theft, fraud, and abuse

California rushed headlong into the implementation of ObamaCare, eager to be the first model state to show off the many wonderful ways in which the law was ostensibly meant to work. Much like at the national level, however, California is encountering some pretty heady problems as they, too, try to get everything organized by the October deadline by which people are supposed to be able to start signing up for the system’s proffered health insurance choices. Besides the very glaring problems of sharply higher insurance premiums and major insurers fleeing the individual insurance market for via-employer insurance only, their “Covered California” exchange’s administrators are realizing that there’s another predicament in the works. Via the AP:

As California prepares to launch its health care exchange, consumer groups are worried the uninsured could fall victim to fraud, identity theft or other crimes at the hands of some of the very people who are supposed to help them enroll.

The exchange, known as Covered California, recently adopted rules for a network of more than 21,000 enrollment counselors who will provide consumers with in-person assistance as part of the federal Affordable Care Act. In some cases, they will have access to personal and financial information, from ID cards to medical histories.

But the state insurance commissioner and anti-fraud groups say the exchange is falling short in ensuring that the people hired as counselors are adequately screened and monitored.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fraud; insurance; obamacare

ObamaCare was written by a committee whose head said he didn’t understand it ... passed by a Congress that didn’t read it ... whose members are exempt from it ... signed by a president who smokes ... funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes ... overseen by a surgeon general who is obese ... and financed by a country that is broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

1 posted on 07/15/2013 4:43:22 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet


2 posted on 07/15/2013 4:46:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: Zakeet

I would say that if you had a state in serious financial trouble now, and waltzed into the insurance period....it’d only get worse.

The whole trend here....they need a repair job done to make any of this work. As far as I can see....the House won’t touch that, and the President will extend out the program til 2016, and let the next President handle the mess. As long as both the house and senate remain in opposite directions....there’s no outcome, and no program. I think Justice Roberts recognized this whole trend...it was a program without any capability to operate, and gave the President a 100-year legend...a non-operational program that took up to an entire year of time in the house and senate.


3 posted on 07/15/2013 4:50:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Zakeet

“California insurance commissioner: We could “have a real disaster on our hands” with [ObamaCare]”

He needs go give Nancy Nutcase a call ... she has it ALL figured out! :)


4 posted on 07/15/2013 4:52:17 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Zakeet

Is this Fraud to the left or is it a feature. The counselor groups all look like the usual suspects and this would be just another way to redistribute the spoils of society’s producers to the dependent exploiters of the Rat base.


5 posted on 07/15/2013 4:55:55 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Zakeet

-———What could possibly go wrong? ———

What if they had a war and nobody came?

What if they gave away healthcare and nobody signed up?

When you sign up, they know who you are and where you live


6 posted on 07/15/2013 4:58:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: bert

If everybody is eligible how can it be fraudulent? Just treat whoever shows up and names be damned


7 posted on 07/15/2013 5:10:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: bert

-———What could possibly go wrong? ———

What if they had a war and nobody came?

What if they gave away healthcare and nobody signed up?

....I have a hunch these counselors, along with the roll out blitz that will commence, could be setting up another massive WH scandal. Left to reason, and choice, NOBODY would sign up for this plan. Yet, it can’t fail. Not yet, at least until proper blame can get attached to others beside the WH.


8 posted on 07/15/2013 5:16:04 AM PDT by JaxLaxDad
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I think on LA. (I’ve been there several times but confess my vision is based on movies and TV)

I see visions of various racially diverse gang bangers, young guys, and off stage their women and bastards. I just can’t bring myself to believe they will summon the energy to go sign up for health care for which they have no immediate need.

Then there is the underworld, not criminal underworld but illegal alien underworld. I can’t see them making any positive action for something they not only don’t need but can’t possibly understand.

It just doesn’t compute


9 posted on 07/15/2013 5:34:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: pepsionice
I was talking with some disgruntled local Reps over the weekend. I told them that the GOP needs to sue Obama for breaking the law by not enforcing 0care. Force his hand to start implementation or ask for it to be revoked.
10 posted on 07/15/2013 5:38:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: JaxLaxDad
Left to reason, and choice, NOBODY would sign up for this plan.

I plan to sign up for it as early as I can.

I'm currently paying close to $700 per month for insurance. With the subsidies in the plan, my cost would go down to less than $100 per month if I sign up for a silver plan and probably close to $0 if I go with a bronze plan. I'd have to be a damned fool not to sign up for that.

I've seen the stats in the past about the percent of the population that doesn't pay any income taxes. I'd expect that not only nearly all of that group, but a significant percent of the people that DO pay income taxes, would qualify for having the taxpayers cover most of their insurance premiums. (At least those that aren't covered for free already with the expanded Medicaid.)

My expectation is that there will probably be five times as many people signing up for Obamacare than their projections call for.

A lot of employers will be dropping their insurance plans in order to push the cost of providing insurance for their employees over to the government.

11 posted on 07/15/2013 6:19:20 AM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“I told them that the GOP needs to sue Obama for breaking the law by not enforcing 0care. “

Sure, the Pubs will get right on that.....


12 posted on 07/15/2013 6:53:23 AM PDT by wrencher
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lol..not holding my breath and I told them so!


13 posted on 07/15/2013 7:06:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Zakeet
Just remove the word "could" and he is spot on.

14 posted on 07/15/2013 7:18:04 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Wissa

Have you analyzed the comparative benefits of your current plan and either the bronze or the silver plan? In your case, based on the benefits in those plans, does it make sense to buy susuidized insurance now or to wait to do so until you need medical care? I ask because some have said many of the uninsured, particularly the young, will choose to pay the penalty, rather than buying insurance. Of course, if a bronze plan is pretty free after subsidy, that argument would not hold water.


15 posted on 07/15/2013 7:53:40 AM PDT by p. henry
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I've done as much analysis as I can do, until the actual specs of the benefits of the various plans available to me are defined. That will probably be closer to the 10/01/13 date that signup begins.

In my case, my age is high enough that my risk of something like a heart attack is significantly higher than somebody in their twenties or thirties. I find life less stressful when I know I won't face the possibility of a catastrophic financial loss for an uninsured event like that, so I'll be buying insurance regardless. You can't plan on when you'll get a heart attack and hold off until the month before it hits to sign up for insurance.

People that are younger, with incomes high enough not to get the subsidies will probably pay the penalties and take their chances. I don't fall into either of those categories.

16 posted on 07/15/2013 8:27:28 AM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Zakeet

THE DEVIL is NOT JUST in the details of ObamaCare!!!


17 posted on 07/15/2013 10:43:40 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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