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1 posted on 07/15/2013 6:02:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin; sickoflibs

I have been asking this question for about 6 months now - What will the GOP do when the Dems decide to cut it loose? It is a possibility it will happen before the Fall of 2014.


2 posted on 07/15/2013 6:05:57 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Kaslin
Question of the Week: Will Obamacare Collapse?

Obamacare could never stand up...it was designed to crush the economy, not help the People.

3 posted on 07/15/2013 6:08:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: Kaslin

I understand everyone’s unhappiness with Obamacare, but frankly what we had before was also a mess.

I do not, see anyone moving to actually FIX things.

We just seem to waffle between one mess (pre-Obamacare) and another mess (Obamacare)

Either fix Obamacare, or leave it.

We cannot return to what we had.


4 posted on 07/15/2013 6:08:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kaslin

It already is collapsing because it was unworkable right from the start


7 posted on 07/15/2013 6:15:39 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Kaslin
Question of the Week: Will Obamacare Collapse?

Only after democrats bankrupt the country trying to prop it up.


10 posted on 07/15/2013 6:22:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: Kaslin

The Rats and Rhinos need the crack delivered to addict the peeps and increase the politicians power. Wake up!


13 posted on 07/15/2013 6:23:21 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: Kaslin

It was designed to fail so they could give you the solution, Single Payer.


15 posted on 07/15/2013 6:27:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin
Outstanding post. Mitchell states that his one legacy to the world is the phrase, “Bad government policy begets more bad government policy.”

There's another, equally true legacy statement that applies to Obamacare: Gall's Law. This law was based on a body of work by John Gall who has extensively studied the nature of systems. Gall concluded that "A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. The inverse proposition also appears to be true: A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be made to work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system."

We are seeing Gall's Law play out with Obamacare, which is the mother-of-all complex systems. And the worst is yet to come. The underlying supporting systems have not even been put in place yet but when they eventually are Obamacare will inevitably be a fiasco of historic proportions. A great political disaster, the signs of which are already evident even to many Democrats.

17 posted on 07/15/2013 6:32:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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Obamacare is the ridiculous and fantastic 'Spruce Goose', leviathan that won't fly EITHER!
19 posted on 07/15/2013 6:32:36 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Kaslin
Here's a few more for your collection:


22 posted on 07/15/2013 6:41:08 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: Kaslin

No it will not collapse, it may be tweaked a bit here and there, but the Rino’s want it as much as obama does, just like amnesty.

Hope I’m wrong about that, but the facts in evidence leads me to the conclusion.


25 posted on 07/15/2013 6:44:28 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Kaslin

It was designed to collapse and create a panicky outcry for Single Payer in its wake.


30 posted on 07/15/2013 6:52:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare is suppose to collapse. It is designed to bring about that outcome.

The answer will be yet more and even bigger government to rescue the situation in the single payer system, which should be recognized as the end goal of Obamacare.

Free market solutions are the only REAL solutions while remaining a free nation.


35 posted on 07/15/2013 7:05:09 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Kaslin
Is Obamacare such a cluster-you-know-what that the law will self-destruct?...
47 posted on 07/15/2013 7:40:45 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Kaslin

You have to identify a problem before you solve a problem. The problem is that medical treatment is too expensive for very many people to afford. The solution to that would be cheaper solutions. Nobody’s looking for cheaper, simpler solutions to things because there’s not enough profit in that.


53 posted on 07/15/2013 7:53:39 AM PDT by grania
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To: Kaslin

No, it will morph into single payer.


55 posted on 07/15/2013 7:56:42 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare has already collapsed, but they will shove it down our throats, anyway.


57 posted on 07/15/2013 7:59:14 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Kaslin

The word WHEN was left off after the colon...


73 posted on 07/15/2013 1:24:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Well, I’ve already explained why I’m optimistic about the possibility of turning Obamacare lemons into free-market lemonade.

Simply stated, the law took a healthcare system that already was a mess because of government intervention and subsidies and it doubled down on that misguided approach!”

Not me, sorry. I am much more certain that we will have band-aid placed upon band-aid placed upon suture placed upon workaround placed upon subsidy placed upon whatever else...BECAUSE LAWS ARE NEVER REPEALED! (OK, functioning laws are repealed, like Glass-Steagal, but we’re talking 1%)

Instead, I believe the odds are much greater that will get a hybrid-patchwork-bastardization-cross-subsidized mishmosh that will look like one of those old houses with 6 layers of roofing on it, so many that the rafters are sagging under the weight.

The government HAS ACHIEVED legal control over this 1/6th of the US economy and nothing short of an asteroid strike will cause them to relinquish their grip.

The fix will be THREE THOUSAND pages. Count on it.


74 posted on 07/15/2013 1:50:26 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both parties are trying to elect a new PEOPLE.)
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