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Trey Gowdy: House Canít Just Defend the Status Quo on Immigration
NRO ^ | July 15, 2013 | Will Allen

Posted on 07/15/2013 3:41:50 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

"The House should pass legislation on the issue, but ”that doesn’t mean you go to conference” with the Senate, he explained. (Conservatives have argued in recent weeks that taking House and Senate bills to conference would produce something much more similar to the Gang of Eight bill than whatever the House passes.)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; immigration; randsconcerntrolls; treygowdy
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Gowdy is chairman of the Immigration and Border Security Subcommittee, and as such would almost certainly be in the House conference committee.

The House should pass legislation on the issue, but” that doesn’t mean you go to conference”

How exactly are they going to prevent it from going to conference, other than letting it die of old age (and if that is their plan they can't admit it in public)? I have not heard one of them answer that question.

And if it doesn't go to conference, where does it go? If the House passes a Comprehensive Immigration Whopper with amnesty, like the senate bill but with a little more "Border Surge," the senate Dems might just vote to approve it without a conference.

But Gowdy should know House Dems will not vote for that any bill without amnesty for at least the Dreamers. All they need is for some GOP House members to cave.

Look carefully at 2 articles 10 days apart about Goodlatte, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, which oversees immigration:

07-01-2013 Goodlatte: No 'special pathway to citizenship'

July 11 ...he could see a plan in which adult undocumented immigrants are given a temporary legal status and could later apply for green cards and U.S. citizenship.....After attaining that status, Goodlatte said, they could then apply for legal permanent residence and eventually U.S. citizenship through avenues that are already available to foreigners: marrying a U.S. citizen, having a U.S. citizen relative petition for them or having a U.S. employer sponsor their application.

That last sentence is crucial. Goodlatte could argue that it's nor a "special" pathway-to-citizenship (Is he trying to have it both ways?). Today, any illegal alien can marry a US citizen and apply for green card->citizenship unless they have a criminal history or are a member of some dangerous group. Likewise, today employers can sponsor alliens, with some restrictions, supposedly.

The House could create a bill that makes it harder or easier for former illegals to become citizens, but with Obama, and another Dem or squishy R as POTUS in 2017, it may not matter. They would be here indefinitely, with the Left/media/rogue judges/Eos/sympathetic bureaucrats to help them get from 3rd base to home plate.

1 posted on 07/15/2013 3:41:50 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Where’s the fence?

There’s supposed to be a fence. Where is it?

The status quo is non-enforcement.

ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.


2 posted on 07/15/2013 3:44:01 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Mr. Gowdy, you and you ilk are not trusted to do anything.

Nothing.

Shut up and stop enabling the commiecrats, or you are no better than them.


3 posted on 07/15/2013 3:44:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
As long as the rats call the tune, set the terms of the debate, conservatives and our nation will lose.

When was the last time we fought on a field of battle of our own choosing?

4 posted on 07/15/2013 3:47:13 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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5 posted on 07/15/2013 3:49:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

6 posted on 07/15/2013 3:54:20 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Here's a change from the "status quo."

ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAW.

If you are not going to enforce existing law, there is no reason to believe you will do anything other than cherry-pick a new law and enforce the new things you like and ignore the new things that you don't.

7 posted on 07/15/2013 3:55:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Why do we ever need reform, i.e., legislation ?

Just check the landscaper, restaurant, etc., businesses for illegals. You know, like we used to see happening on a normal ongoing basis.

The only legislation we should have is to DECREASE the numbers permitted to immigrate.

We have 300+ million people and not enough jobs for them.

Allowing ANY immgration is simply idiotic at this point, unless one is thinking from the globalist/transnational financial oligarchy viewpoint.


8 posted on 07/15/2013 3:55:32 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Perdogg; NFHale; Impy; BillyBoy; DoughtyOne; tumblindice; ...

If you are a constituent of Gowdy or Goodlatte please call their office!

I called my congressman’s DC office this morning, and asked (after many calls with the same request) to speak to someone who knew something about immigration. I finally got to speak to one. He assured me that my congressman would not vote for a pathway-to-citizenship. Whew!


9 posted on 07/15/2013 4:00:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Why do we ever need reform, i.e., legislation ?

That's what I told my congressman's office. If We could pass a bill that really enforced the border better without giving the Dems something more important, that would be OK, but it will never happen.

10 posted on 07/15/2013 4:04:08 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
from the article:

“I wish you would go on plant tours with me . . . and ask the question, ‘Do you have any openings?’ And 99 percent of the time, the answer is yes.” He said that in many cases due to visa restrictions, for farm labor, “It is actually costlier to hire an immigrant. And yet the farm worker is almost invariably an immigrant. You can’t pay an American to pick blueberries.”

So maybe we need to rethink our unemployment compensation and our food stamp programs? If you're hungry enough, or worried about having a place to live, you will work in a factory or pick blueberries.

His last thought about the blueberry pickers doesn't make sense to me. Is he saying it's costlier to hire them as illegals to pick berries, so we need to make them citizens so it will be cheaper???? what is he saying?
11 posted on 07/15/2013 4:04:51 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Oynx; Syncro

Another one bites the dust. Damn. And I had hopes for Gowdy.

Just enforce the law. What can possibly be so hard for these guys to understand?


12 posted on 07/15/2013 4:10:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

My congressman is supposedly a great conservative Texas Congressman too, and therefore we should be able to count on his vote. Unfortunately in his old age he is also a quiet little mouse on all important issues, and will do whatever the hell John Boehner tells him to do. So I want to see no immigration bills at all in the house. They WILL screw it up.


13 posted on 07/15/2013 4:12:09 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: PieterCasparzen

One of the most interesting things for me about this whole topic is how they talk about; jobs Americans won’t do, teenage unemployment, etc.

Well, i’ll go out on a limb and say that more than a few of the folks that read this site have had jobs in the service industry, washing dishes, mowing lawns, doing construction. Lots of them when you were on summer break from school. And then, if you were lucky, you were able to get a job bussing/waiting tables while school was in session. I loved being able to make my own money when I was a kid. Didn’t have to hit up my folks for any. Nor could they say a whole lot about what I spent it on.

And it taught me a work ethic. Something missing from a lot of todays younger generations that don’t know what its like because everything has always been handed to them.

If someone like Gowdy folds on this, especially with all the hype that surrounded him during some of the recent congressional hearings, than that’ll prove just how corrupt DC is. And the need for any/every incumbent to be voted out of office.


14 posted on 07/15/2013 4:13:56 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

So what is your definition of amnesty?


15 posted on 07/15/2013 4:14:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Girlene
His last thought about the blueberry pickers doesn't make sense to me. Is he saying it's costlier to hire them as illegals to pick berries, so we need to make them citizens so it will be cheaper???? what is he saying?

Good question. He wants more "guest workers," maybe something beyond that.

16 posted on 07/15/2013 4:15:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Here's a change from the "status quo."

ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAW.


That would be nice.

Not going to happen unless we keep holding feet to the fire.
17 posted on 07/15/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Trey Gowdy: House Can’t Just Defend the Status Quo on Immigration

Hey Trey, how about forcing the illegal immigrant usurper in the white hut to uphold and enforce the laws of The United States already on the books like he swore to do! We don't need any more laws, and we sure as hell don't need or want AMNESTY, we need enforcement and a damn WALL!

18 posted on 07/15/2013 4:18:32 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (A Quiet Rage is Building All Across America!)
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To: chris37

disappointing


19 posted on 07/15/2013 4:19:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Girlene; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The solution is really quite simple. Well, part of the solution.

NO MORE FREAKING WELFARE FOR ANYONE.

And then Americans will be overjoyed to pick blueberries, or anything else.

(And enforce existing immigration laws.)

Also insane over regulations need to be thrown away.

All this will have to happen sooner or later anyway. Might as well start now, or it will happen the hard way, which will be a lot less pretty.


20 posted on 07/15/2013 4:23:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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