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Study: Obamacare could cause 1 million low-income Americans to move from work to welfare
AEI ^ | July 15,2013 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 07/16/2013 8:07:56 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Applying our labor supply estimates directly to this population, we predict a decline in employment of between 530,000 and 940,000 in response to this group of individuals being made newly eligible for free or heavily subsidized health insurance. This would represent a decline in the aggregate employment rate of between 0.3 and 0.6 percentage points from this single component of the ACA.

The researchers arrive at these numbers by examining the labor market impact of Tennessee’s 2005 decision to discontinue its expansion of TennCare, the state’s Medicaid system. They found that the TennCare disenrollment caused “a large and immediate labor supply increase” as folks who lost coverage starting looking for work. More:

Indeed, we find a similarly large increase in private health insurance following the disenrollment, suggesting that public health insurance had been “crowding out” private health insurance When we explore the dynamic effects of the disenrollment, we find an immediate increase in job search behavior and a steady rise in both employment and health insurance coverage. The pattern of changes in labor supply and the crowdout behavior suggest that disenrollees entered the labor market and gained employment in order to procure health insurance. This finding is consistent with both.

And Obamacare would cause the reverse effect, pushing those getting subsidized coverage to leave the labor force. The result is especially worrisome for the health of working America if you combine it with Obamacare’s possible nudge toward more part-time workers in place of full-time workers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; commiecare; democrats; economy; employment; government; govtabuse; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; pelosi; socialism; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; underemployment; unemployment; welfare

1 posted on 07/16/2013 8:07:56 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Mission Accomplished.


2 posted on 07/16/2013 8:09:24 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Hojczyk
Obamacare could cause 1 million low-income Americans to move from work to welfare

by design

3 posted on 07/16/2013 8:10:22 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Signalman

Yep. The congress needs to not fund this big mess.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 8:11:17 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Signalman

Right-THAT’S been the plan all along!


5 posted on 07/16/2013 8:11:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Hojczyk
Exactly what the RAT party wanted. This was never about health care, NEVER.
6 posted on 07/16/2013 8:13:58 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Hojczyk

Cloward meet Piven


7 posted on 07/16/2013 8:14:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: snarkytart
Yep. The congress needs to not fund this big mess.

Been saying that for two years now. BUT what do we have running the GOP led House? This moron - Boehner: House Will Fund Obamacare in CR; Won't Risk 'Shutting Down the Government'

So afraid of the media and his own shadow that he will allow Obamacare to become as firmly entrenched as SS and Medicare all the while holding "Pretend Votes" to repeal the Act knowing it will never even get to a vote in the RAT?WH run Senate. Truly despicable as a GOP leader.
8 posted on 07/16/2013 8:18:01 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Hojczyk

That’s been the plan all along.


9 posted on 07/16/2013 8:20:56 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s all about margin.

Remember the Reagan Revolution was a change in MARGINAL rates, meaning it encouraged that “extra effort”.

This raises the bar the opposite way, makes “less effort” worth more bennies.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 8:30:08 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Hojczyk

nobama reads headlines like this and just smiles. And maybe has an orgasm.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 8:36:04 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Hojczyk

What is this “could” stuff?...I would posit that this effect, perhaps even more, has already occurred.


12 posted on 07/16/2013 8:38:42 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both parties are trying to elect a new PEOPLE.)
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To: Hojczyk

13 posted on 07/16/2013 8:41:10 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Hojczyk
OK. So what's the big deal?

We'll simply replace them at their jobs by some of the 30 million new low skilled, uneducated "immigrants" who will work for peanuts. It's the kind of deal where everybody wins!

14 posted on 07/16/2013 8:50:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are void-Jefferson, 1798)
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To: Hojczyk

the notion that people start looking for work when they lose insurance from some govt entity is fine and good. It makes no sense whatsoever that people looking for work somehow leads to jobs. It certainly will be the case with Ocare since theres plenty of empirical evidence it has retarded hiring but people searching for jobs does not foster job growth.
Besides comparing the labor market of the 1990’s to that of today is not quite appropriate and i’m being kind.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 8:52:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Hojczyk

Every new parasite adds another Democrat vote.


16 posted on 07/16/2013 8:53:50 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Cheerio

“Exactly what the RAT party wanted.”

Maybe, but the ‘Stupid Party’ was mighty complicit in this as well. In fact, since the Roberts’ decision, I heven’t seen a whole lot of pushback from th Pubbies either. Too busy pushing amnesty I guess.


17 posted on 07/16/2013 8:56:30 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama has already put that many people out of work and onto welfare, called extended unemployment and food stamps. Everyone who is working two jobs to scrape by when one job used to get them ahead can thank Obama. Obamacare is the straw that breaks the camels back, and the vultures on the left can’t wait for it to happen.


18 posted on 07/16/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by pallis
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To: All

Pass it to see what’s in it. When Pelosi said that and the retards still voted for obama, it proves they have no idea what’s going on.

This is all designed to brink the country down. obama, and all who pull his strings, no you can’t tax someone who’s not working.


19 posted on 07/16/2013 4:54:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Hojczyk

With this monstrosity you can not be middle income and survive it. You either need to be rich or you need to cut your income back to poverty level so that you don’t have to pay for it. If you do have to pay for it(or the fine in a few years) then it can take you from getting by to being so poor that you can’t possibly pay your bills.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 7:46:13 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel; neverdem; SierraWasp

“With this monstrosity you can not be middle income and survive it. You either need to be rich or you need to cut your income back to poverty level so that you don’t have to pay for it. If you do have to pay for it(or the fine in a few years) then it can take you from getting by to being so poor that you can’t possibly pay your bills.”

Bingo! Even before ObamaCare is official, the increases in health care cost increases are killing our younger and middle age working families.

Yesterday while shopping, my wife, a former FP Office RN, ran into a former patient.

The patient in her 40’s and her husband are examples of how ObozoCare is destroying our working middle class. The woman and her husband work and make between $80,000 to $90,000 per year depending on the husband’s overtime.

Their monthly health insurance cost for a family of 4, 2 adults and 2 teens is up to $850/month for them.

Their yearly deductible for each person is up to $3,000, with a yearly family deductible of $10K.

So they are paying the doctors cash for each visit. Many MDs are accepting the cash.

They are keeping their expensive health care insurance in case a medical disaster happens.

We discussed concierge medicine for she and her husband, and they will be looking into it. Their yearly deductibles would pay for their yearly concierge costs.

this monstrosity you can not be middle income and survive it. You either need to be rich or you need to cut your income back to poverty level so that you don’t have to pay for it. If you do have to pay for it(or the fine in a few years) then it can take you from getting by to being so poor that you can’t possibly pay your bills.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 9:09:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: wiggen; Hojczyk; pallis; Grampa Dave; Revel; neverdem; All
Besides comparing the labor market of the 1990's to that of today is not quite appropriate and i'm being kind.

Economic Fears Keep Staff Levels Lean
By Dennis McCafferty | Posted 2013-07-02 |

Economic Fears Keep Staff Levels Lean: More with Less     Economic Fears Keep Staff Levels Lean: More than 8 Million Jobs Wiped Out

Economic Fears Keep Staff Levels Lean: Unlikely Comeback     Economic Fears Keep Staff Levels Lean: Catch-Up Time

From Is the Recovery Failing? - CEA, by Shawn G. DuBravac, Chief Economist, June 24, 2013

From Business confidence back to financial crisis lows - CNBC, by Kiran Moodley, 2013 July 14

From June Data Is a Star-Spangled Disappointment - Barrons, by Gene Epstein, 2013 July 06


22 posted on 07/17/2013 11:46:11 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

i’m busy at work but since you quoted me i’ll assume you agree with me?


23 posted on 07/17/2013 11:51:26 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
... since you quoted me i’ll assume you agree with me?

Yes, of course. Just thought it would be a good idea to bring some facts buttressing your opinion - and which are not commonly mentioned in general and even business media - to the attention of people who may be interested.

24 posted on 07/17/2013 1:34:19 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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