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'If TM was white what would have happened?' Rachel Jeantel says jury cleared GZ 'because of race'
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Posted on 07/16/2013 10:47:46 AM PDT by matt04

Trayvon Martin’s friend Rachel Jeantel, revealed last night that she ‘had a feeling’ that the largely white-female jury would find George Zimmerman not guilty because of their race.

'If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that have happened?' said Miss Jeantel, who was the last person to speak to the teen.

Meanwhile protests continued throughout the U.S. as thousands of people gathered in Atlanta, Georgia, and Birmingham, Alabama, as well as smaller crowds in New York City and Washington D.C.

The slain teenager’s friend, who was one of the prosecution’s star witnesses said after the verdict she felt ‘disappointed, angry, upset, question, and mad’.

During the trial, defence lawyer Don West repeatedly asked Miss Jeantel to speak up and the jury said that they could not hear her, so she used an interview on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight to explain that an untreated overbite has caused her speech issues for much of her life.

‘I had to have surgery to push it back and right now I don’t want to do it because it would take a year to heal,’ she said. ‘Words I can say - it can’t come out right.’

She took shots at Mr West, saying ‘he's lucky I'm a Christian’ - as that is the only thing that has prevented her from ‘cussing’ him out.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: la; oakland; trayvon
Full title:If Trayvon was white what would have happened?': Rachel Jeantel says jury cleared Zimmerman 'because of race' as protesters take to streets across America with violent clashes in LA and Oakland


1 posted on 07/16/2013 10:47:46 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

I forsee future murder trials of a black defendant and white victim, where the jury is made up of mostly Blacks just as in the OJ trial. And the result will be the same. The verdict will be not guilty and considered payback for Travon Martin.

Interview: William Hodgman

As assistant district attorney for the city of Los Angeles, Willliam Hodgman was one of the lead prosecutors, arguing pretrial motions and working on the jury selection process.

How do you explain the images of the black community rejoicing at the O.J. acquittal?

I think it can be summed up in four words: payback for Rodney King.

The afternoon after the verdicts came in, I was in my office, and after having spent time briefly with the Brown family, more time with the Goldman family, attempting to console them as well as console the junior members of our own team who were quite distraught over the verdicts, ... there was a knock at the door, and a couple deputy sheriffs came in. They had been with the group of deputies who had transported the jurors who had been sequestered out to a sheriff substation to be released back to their loved ones and boyfriends and others. And they described the scene as joyous, high-fiving, smiles, laughter, hugs. And these two deputies told me, they said: “Bill, you guys never had a chance. We were standing there in the parking lot, and all we could hear was, ‘That was payback for Rodney King. That was payback for Rodney King.’”

As assistant district attorney for the city of Los Angeles, Willliam Hodgman was one of the lead prosecutors, arguing pretrial motions and working on the jury selection process. However, in late January 1995, he took on a less prominent role due to health reasons. In this interview, he explains the prosecution’s reasons for making Simpson’s domestic violence a key part of their case — and one that had little impact on the jury — as well as their decision to use Detective Mark Fuhrman, despite knowing about his previous racist remarks. Hodgman discusses how, in retrospect, he might have handled the case differently, but feels that it probably would have mattered little in the end. He believes the public, and possibly the jurors, were seeking “payback.” “This is cognitive dissonance: this feeling, this sentiment that somehow the score was going to be even by acquitting O.J.,” Hodgman tells FRONTLINE. “I have no idea if those jurors … felt that maybe O.J. did it, but that they were simply going to let him go — a jury nullification — or, if they really carefully deliberated and felt that somehow the evidence was inadequate.” This interview was conducted on April 4, 2005.

What was the O.J. Simpson trial all about? Was this just a murder trial, or was it something else as well?

... I’ve often likened the O.J. Simpson case to a perfect storm, a crashing together of these external

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/oj/interviews/hodgman.html


2 posted on 07/16/2013 10:48:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: matt04

Looks like Jeantel is digging herself deeper with a government-subsidized tunnel boring machine. Good thing the instructions are not in cursive . . .


3 posted on 07/16/2013 10:49:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: matt04

Obama’s sons showing how TM was a peaceful innocent little boy by rioting ans smashing cars and windows.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 10:49:44 AM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
'If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that have happened?'

Then Zimmerman would have never been charged and there would not have even been a trial.

5 posted on 07/16/2013 10:50:12 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: matt04
‘I had to have surgery to push it back and right now I don’t want to do it because it would take a year to heal,’ she said. ‘Words I can say - it can’t come out right.’

You keep right on 'splaining that girl. Bullshit. You just stupid.

6 posted on 07/16/2013 10:50:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: matt04

If TV were white, this most likely never would have happened because generally, white people don’t do what he did in that situation.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 10:52:51 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: matt04

If he’d been white, we’d all be saying “Who?”.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 10:56:42 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: matt04
'If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that have happened?'

He would have been shot by George Zimmerman for trying to kill George Zimmerman with Zimmerman released by cops for justifiable homicide and we would have never have heard of it again.

9 posted on 07/16/2013 10:57:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: matt04

The fact that a nineteen year old high school junior who can’t read cursive nor speak intelligibly is being held up as a wise sage and voice of reason in certain circles on the Left tells you all you need to know about those circles.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 10:58:14 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Salamander

More like we never would have seen this anywhere in the media. Except perhaps the conservative media.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 10:58:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: matt04
If both Trayvon and Zimmerman were white - NO TRIAL!

If both Trayvon and Zimmerman were black - NO TRIAL!

If Trayvon was white and Zimmerman was black - NO TRIAL!

If Trayvon was black and Zimmerman was white - TRIAL!

If Trayvon was black and Zimmerman was hispanic - TRIAL!
(just call Zimmerman white and prosecute the hell out of him)


12 posted on 07/16/2013 11:01:12 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: matt04

Was she wearing her Peirs Morgan nurls for the show?


13 posted on 07/16/2013 11:02:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: matt04
"If TM was white what would have happened?"

Nothing.

The "white" TM would not have lain in wait and ambushed Zim.

14 posted on 07/16/2013 11:04:54 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The fact that a nineteen year old high school junior who can’t read cursive nor speak intelligibly is being held up as a wise sage and voice of reason in certain circles on the Left tells you all you need to know about those circles.

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15 posted on 07/16/2013 11:06:06 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: thackney

‘If Trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that have happened?’

Then Zimmerman would have never been charged and there would not have even been a trial.


Because there would be no money train for the Justice Brothers...


16 posted on 07/16/2013 11:07:03 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: thackney

If TM was white, he would have called 911 and said that some guy was following him and he needed an officer. The police would have come, defused the situation, and no one would have been:

- ambushed
- punched in the nose and broken
- slammed to the ground
- head smashed against the concrete
- shot in self defense

But calling the Popo dont get no street cred. Give’n a beat down is gonna build that gangsta rep and that is what TM wanted.


17 posted on 07/16/2013 11:07:12 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: matt04; Chode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF7e2rgzsrU

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Now you can smash all the windows that you want All you really need are some friends and a rock Throwing a brick never felt so damn good Smash more glass, scream with a laugh
And wallow with the crowds Watch them kicking peoples’ ass
But you get to the place Where the real slave drivers live It’s walled off by the riot squad Aiming guns right at your head
So you turn right around And play right into their hands And set your own neighborhood Burning to the ground instead
Riot, the unbeatable high Riot shoots your nerves to the sky Riot, playing right into their hands Tomorrow you’re homeless Tonight it’s a blast
Get your kicks in quick They’re callin’ the National Guard Now could be your only chance To torch a police car
Climb the roof, kick the siren in And jump and yelp for joy Quickly dive back in the crowd Slip away, now don’t get caught
Let’s loot the spiffy Hi-Fi store Grab as much as you can hold Pray your full arms don’t fall off Here comes the owner with a gun
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The barricades spring up from nowhere Cops in helmets line the lines Shotguns prod into your bellies The trigger fingers want an excuse, now
The raging mob has lost its nerve There’s more of us but who goes first No one dares to cross the line The cops know that they’ve won
It’s all over but not quite The pigs have just begun to fight They club your heads, kick your teeth Police can riot all that they please
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18 posted on 07/16/2013 11:10:26 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: taxcontrol
Being white is no guarantee of good behavior. We have plenty of trash in every race.

But in the US, a white young man beating up a “white hispanic” would not have made national news. It would not have resulted in a show trail pushed into place by public outcry.

19 posted on 07/16/2013 11:11:48 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: KeyLargo

Well now that we have input from the ignorant racist micro-encephalitic demographic covered I suppose we can move on.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 11:14:01 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Iron Munro

Just why in the Hank Hill can’t a 19 year old read cursive?


21 posted on 07/16/2013 11:15:59 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: matt04
If you hadn't egged Martin on by telling him Zimmerman must
be a queer rapist what would have happened, Rachel?
22 posted on 07/16/2013 11:30:36 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Olog-hai

Someone push her back into the sea..... She’s lost her inner compass.....


23 posted on 07/16/2013 11:33:23 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Morgana

Bell curve drop out is my first guess !


24 posted on 07/16/2013 11:35:44 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Morgana
Just why in the Hank Hill can’t a 19 year old read cursive?

People who can read?

People who can read cursive?

"they old, that's old school people.
We in a new school, our generation, my generation."


25 posted on 07/16/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: Iron Munro

That book would be thinner than an average church newsletter.


26 posted on 07/16/2013 11:42:15 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: matt04

If TM were white, it would never have gone to court.


27 posted on 07/16/2013 11:57:19 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Iron Munro

“they old, that’s old school people.
We in a new school, our generation, my generation.”

Well it looks like I’m old school. I can read and write cursive. I also know my grammar. As in “They are old, that’s old school people. We are in the new school, our generation, my generation”.

It would appear her generations needs a dunce cap.


28 posted on 07/16/2013 12:12:24 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: matt04

All this Hispanic bashing makes me sick.

Dems are such racists.


29 posted on 07/16/2013 12:15:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Morgana
haft to be a big one...
30 posted on 07/16/2013 2:51:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: matt04
'If TM was white what would have happened?' Rachel Jeantel says jury cleared GZ 'because of race'

Doesn't surprise me nor does it trouble me. This person is not a dangerous lunatic, prone to violence; at least not personally.
This poor soul has no grasp of what is a rational discussion, never mind an honest and calm non-confrontational debate. What was one of the remarks she made when asked a question by a defense attorney?

Wasn't it "That's retarded!"?

31 posted on 07/16/2013 2:52:43 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: matt04

Rachel Jeantel is one of the most ignorant people in America. We should give her a prize.


32 posted on 07/16/2013 2:53:40 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: matt04

Jeantel is about as credible as dog poop o sidewalk


33 posted on 07/16/2013 2:54:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: KeyLargo

our country will not long survive this kind of disrespect - and amnesty will hasten the fall of the civilized


34 posted on 07/16/2013 2:57:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: SaraJohnson

After seeing a chart of the times when Martin was on the phone with her, I started thinking. SHE instigated this. She said something to Martin that made him mad and willing to go pick a fight with Zimmerman.

Now that we’ve heard her talk about Zimmerman perhaps being a gay rapist, I think SHE put that idea in Martin’s head.

I have read that she testified that Martin went home. He was supposed to be babysitting. If this is true, why did he leave in the 1st place and why did he not stay at home after returning.

Long story short: she is the inspiration for all that took place later.


35 posted on 07/16/2013 2:58:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Morgana

Because she is a weak reader and writer in the first place.


36 posted on 07/16/2013 2:59:17 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: matt04

If Trayvon were white with a hoodie on and doing everything Trayvon did, my guess is he would have been one of them, how you say Wigger.


37 posted on 07/16/2013 3:32:06 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Goodbye America. Glad the majority of my years were spent during the good days.)
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To: combat_boots

I would guess you are probably right about that.


38 posted on 07/16/2013 8:28:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: combat_boots

I would guess you are probably right about that.


39 posted on 07/16/2013 8:33:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: matt04

40 posted on 07/16/2013 8:35:50 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: matt04

Let’s all listen to Rachel Jeantel. Life would be a raging ghetto. : )


41 posted on 07/16/2013 8:36:32 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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