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After Trayvon Martin Slaying, Holder Blasts ´Stand Your Ground´
Wall Street Journal ^ | 7/16/13 | Devlin Barrett

Posted on 07/16/2013 2:24:16 PM PDT by Nachum

Attorney General Eric Holder blasted "stand-your-ground laws" in the wake of the acquittal of George Zimmerman for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin—saying such laws cause more violence than they prevent. Mr. Holder, speaking to the NAACP Annual Convention in Orlando, Fla., not far from where Mr. Zimmerman was acquitted last week, took direct aim at stand-your-ground laws, which say a person can use force in self-defense without first attempting to retreat from the situation. "Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation´s attention, it´s time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhodoj; blackrage; drivebymedia; ericholder; georgezimmerman; holder; injusticefortrayvon; liberalagenda; liberalmedia; martin; slaying; standyourground; trayvon; trayvonmartin
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To: Nachum

I am confused, wasn’t the case about 2nd degree murder or manslaughter? SYG?? It was never a case about that. I am truly living in the world of Bizzaro.


21 posted on 07/16/2013 2:31:44 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Nachum

More gasoline on the fire


22 posted on 07/16/2013 2:32:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: clintonh8r

Yep, Stand your ground had NOTHING to do with this trial. Zimmerman is innocent.


23 posted on 07/16/2013 2:32:49 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Nachum

The right of self defense precedes all laws of men. Try me, Holder!


24 posted on 07/16/2013 2:32:50 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: rktman

He did not stand his ground, he was grounded and defended himself. No stand your ground law was cited by defense.


25 posted on 07/16/2013 2:34:16 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: DBrow
leading to a confrontation

Don't ya love the way the media continues to use the vague, nebulous "a confrontation happened" meme? Makes it sound like both parties were equally responsible.

Except that a confrontation didn't just "happen", Trayvon jumped Zimmerman and sucker-punched him square in the face. Trayvon started the violence, and would have continued until his victim was dead - as Trayvon himself verbally promised at the time - had Zimmerman not been fortuitously armed.

THAT's what really happened, Big Media. I realize it's a lot for you guys to accept.


26 posted on 07/16/2013 2:34:25 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Nachum

What a demagogue! There was no Stand Your Ground issue in the Zimmerman case. What a deceitful piece of trash!


27 posted on 07/16/2013 2:34:49 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: Nachum

Stra man argument again...stand your ground was not an issue in this case. This was self defense.


28 posted on 07/16/2013 2:36:35 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Nachum

I’m two counties away from Sanford and our sheriff told me we were at a 40 year low on violent crime and almost the lowest since crime stats have been kept in the county. So Eric Holder is a liar. SYG had nothing to do with the case between Zimmerman and Martin but it sure keeps the violent crime rates low.


29 posted on 07/16/2013 2:37:47 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Al looks old and sick!


30 posted on 07/16/2013 2:37:48 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Nachum
That was not a "stand your ground" situation.

"Stand your ground" laws say that you do not have to retreat from an attack if you have the option.

When you're lying on your back with somebody on top of you slamming your head onto a hard surface, you don't have an opportunity to retreat.

In that situation, it is a basic human right to defend yourself in any way possible without relying upon the "stand your ground" laws.

As usual, Holder is FOS.

31 posted on 07/16/2013 2:38:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: omega4179

You are correct. He was grounded and not standing. Hmmmm! And, yes, I know that was never addressed. Didn’t need to be. But erica holdem thinks it needs to be now. Will anyone save us from these fools? Please. I can only do so much. LOL!


32 posted on 07/16/2013 2:38:17 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: South40

Three great “Nigger” or “Nigga” men so glad to be living in this day of “let’s get those creepy ass crackers”.

Looks like Sharpton is either going for the wallet or checking whether EH is really a boy!

Pimps, all three.


33 posted on 07/16/2013 2:38:39 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Nachum

Not your job to write the laws a##hole, it’s your job to enforce them.


34 posted on 07/16/2013 2:39:39 PM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: omega4179
Stand your ground had NOTHING to do with this trial.

Neither did the truth.

35 posted on 07/16/2013 2:40:05 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Nachum

The operative word being “Stand” your ground.

There was no standing here. He was as flat on his back as Katie Couric


36 posted on 07/16/2013 2:40:59 PM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: Nachum
In order to index and archive the afternath of the Zimmerman trial, please add 'blackrage' to the keywords. Thank you.


37 posted on 07/16/2013 2:43:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: digger48

“Stand Your Ground” is the common sense alternative to the insane “Duty to Retreat” standard in places like New York City where I grew up. Under Duty to Retreat, even if you’re in your own home you have to flee rather than defend it. Liberals want to enable barbarians to take what people have earned with no consequences to the barbarians.


38 posted on 07/16/2013 2:44:36 PM PDT by JMS
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To: digger48

To the extent that Holder’s remark’s support the criminals’ hatred of Stand Your Ground rules of defense, this is another reason to Impeach Obama!


39 posted on 07/16/2013 2:45:27 PM PDT by Helotes
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To: Nachum
Yeah; those blacks are not used to having to worry about Whitey having a gun; now they're scared shitless as they do their routine beatdowns, robberies, rapes, auto theft, etc.

Too bad the Right to Bear Arms is still in effect, because THAT is what they want to eliminate.

They KNOW that the populace is arming itself, and they are buying bullets by the billions for the Gubmint, because they KNOW it ain't gonna be that easy to quell the disgust and anger that these "Progressives" have created.

40 posted on 07/16/2013 2:45:44 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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