Skip to comments.Egypt: Morsi Supporters Protest Outside Cabinet
Posted on 07/16/2013 4:27:04 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
Egypt's interim leader swore in a Cabinet on Tuesday that included women and Christians but no Islamists as the military-backed administration moved swiftly to formalize the new political order and present a more liberal face that is markedly at odds with the deposed president and his supporters.
The changes came at a time of deep polarization and violence in Egypt, including new clashes that killed seven people as part of the continuing bloodshed that has marked the days following the armed forces coup that swept President Mohammed Morsi from office and cracked down on the Muslim Brotherhood.
Egypt's military already wields great influence behind the scenes, and the army chief, Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who ousted Morsi on July 3, was given a promotion in the Cabinet. He became a first deputy prime minister in addition to keeping his post as defense minister.
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They should simply expel the Muslim Brotherhood leaders from the country and ban its existence in Egypt.
I never thought I’d prefer Egypt’s government over the one WE currently have.
“women and Christians but no Islamists” wish we could have a government like that
This is a hopeful development. Still, I wish that we could give an instant path to citizenship for Coptic Christians who want asylum in the United States. That is a group who could bring great things to the nation.
They did that for decades. The crackdown was huge after Sadat was assassinated. I remember a story a while back (here on FR) of some Islamic terrorist in Egypt custody who apparently committed suicide by repeatedly ramming his head into the wall. They tried to stop him, honest.
I'm not sure what that looks like.
Mohammad Elbaradei was Obama’s choice after the removal of Mubarak.
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Reid will make Obama cut off their aid for this!
Egyptians have chosen civilization rather than barbarism.
Include Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt transition: ElBaradei
I never thought I would read those words.
This is good news.
Well, the Egyptian military has chosen that. The country elected the Muslim Brotherhood. We'll see which way it swings.
Egypt is now my second country of choice, after Mother Russia.
how sad, .
Egyptians took to the streets and forced a dictator out while millions of Americans still have not marched on DC and camped out.
How about talk radio and sites like this getting millions out to DC, and camp over night to force our dictator and race baiter out
Great news. Thank you, God.
We don’t have 90% of the country living within a couple hours of the capitol and despite the blind joy in Egypt’s great transformation, its still a 90% muslim country with some temporary token govt officials.
I been watching El Baradei out of the corner of my eye since his IAEA days leading the whole Iraqi nuclear peekaboo game.
I have a theory on what happened in Egypt. With Morsi in charge the country was suddenly running out of food, fuel and cash. Amazingly once Morsi was deposed the food and fuel reappeared and other Arab states started ponying up big bucks. Of course the military runs most of the economy. I think the Egyptian people got a good view of the back of the master’s hand.
El Baradei only fits in the military’s plans if he says what he’s supposed to and does very little. There’s a reason he hopped on a plan and cooled it in Europe for a few years after Mubarak fell.
We have jobs (most of us), bills to pay and food on the shelves of every local store. And it's been that way for a long, long time. Are you posting from the Capitol lawn? Me neither.
good point but it’s so frustrating t see this corrupt Govt be supported by a corrupt media who uses their race and homosexuals to attack whites and Christians
“They should simply expel the Muslim Brotherhood leaders from the country and ban its existence in Egypt.”
The Egyptian government should go back to what worke/works with these animals.
- outlawed from forming any POLITICAL Parties and that means cant run in any elective offices
- arrest the blacklisted Islamists who were given safe passage by Morsi ~3,000 criminals back from exile.
- Morsi returns to jail for the original charge of contacting foreign powers and add jail-break resulting in prisons’ guards murders by Hamas operatives. Add murder charges for ordering his thugs to kill protesters BEFORE HIS ARREST.
I can go on and on but lastly, no reconciliation with Islamists, ever!
ElBaradei is another (now former) member of the international crisis group. No good will ever come from them.
You can thank me later.
Amen. Cue the defeatists....
Nasser banned the Muslim Brotherhood, and always fought with them.
Although I support the rights of Christians and secularists in Egypt, there is something manipulative about this situation, and it is as if they are being set up as the impotent public face of an unknown power. The Muslim Brotherhood did win that election, and represent a large sector of the population.
We do not really know who is behind this coup in Egypt. It may be forces similar to those who went into Benghazi, with a well armed expert strike force, and sprang a CIA safe house, as well as their escape base. There is something going on, and we do not have even half the story.
Meanwhile, Anne Patterson (our offensive “ambassador”) demands the release of all imprisoned MB loonies. I’m sure she didn’t come up with this on her own, of course; it’s all our Muslim Marxist Obama, who has now decided to keep a low profile and make his minions take the heat/
No wonder Obama's knickers are in a twist!
Interior Minister Mohammed Ibrahim, appointed by Morsi, remains in his post, which oversees the police.El-Baradei was one of the first to speak of invading Israel after Mubarak stepped down.
Mohamed ElBaradei, one of the (National Salvation) Fronts top leaders and a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, has already been installed as Mansours vice president.
Mubarak did do that. But someone in the White House didn’t want them banned. Remember James Clapper’s goofy attempt at painting the MB as a “secular” organization?
You told me that the cabinet would have token dhimmis in it?
Factual. We know the backgrounds of Sisi and El-Baradei already, and there is a sense of where Beblawi stands. The cabinet isn’t the boss. The Islamic interim constitution speaks for itself. The mainstream media still has the bad habit of calling radicals “moderate”.
If Egypt suddenly turns into a clone of Israel, then you would have the point whereupon I’d happily concede. As things stand, it’s very far away from there, and it’s light-years away from any “told you so”.
A better idea would be to revive the Pharaonic movement. in the late 1800s there were 3-4 competing movements in Egypt: one the Islamic, the second the socialist, the third the pan-Arabic (the 2nd and 3rd were linked in the Baath party and in Nasser’s ideology) and the 4th in Pharonism in the glorification of Egypt’s past
Look, it’s the internet. You can maintain a “denial” forever so long as you ignore ethics and fantasize your own facts...but it gets you nothing.
At this point you are just trying to avoid admitting that you were wrong instead of doing the heavy (intellectual) lifting of re-evaluating your “Egypt is Islamist” nonsense.
The MB is out.
Millions of Egyptians threw them out.
Having you misconstrue those facts is detrimental to all...and sad.
...but I can’t stop your endless posts of fantasies.
Perhaps your lonely worldview depends on your “Egypt is Islamist” nonsense.
The only way to get Islamists out is to fight them, and hard. They aren’t going to vote themselves out. Any other “people of the book” they allow into their government are dhimmis or collaborators. I know liberals just don’t understand that, but that’s a lesson from history. None of the people who ousted Morsi and hold power now are in any way a Mubarak or an Atatürk, and may be worse than the openly Islamist types.
Nothing sinister imo just gross incompetance. The MB was elected. They made asses of themselves and Egypt being tribalistic and Islamo-centric. What else is to be expected? The non-MB supporters were aggrieved and they outnumber the MB. The military simply stopped the nation’s descent into Islamic feudalism -the MB vision of governance.
What the Middle East needs is secular autocrats who can keep order and keep the Islamists out of positions of influence, not "Democracy."
The Islamists are already out. The Egyptian Army is in control, and the Army is dead-set against the Muslim Brotherhood.
For that matter, Qatar just closed the MB’s offices there, too. No fighting!
The MB is losing against Assad in Syria, as well. Fighting!
Millions of Egyptians just protested the Muslim Brotherhood out of power.
The MB lost face.
Islamists lost face.
This loss in Egypt carried over to Qatar, where the MB was shut down.
Nor is this a one-off event. The populist Cedar Revolution in Lebanon was anti-Islamist.
For his part, (Robert) Springborg noted that Sisis academic papers at the US Army War College were almost like Islamist tracts.El-Baradei:
Former International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei, who had previously announced his intetions to run for the presidency of Egypt, said Monday that if Israel attacked Gaza, we would declare war against the Zionist regime.The record speaks for itself. All MB members are Islamists, but not all Islamists are MB members, by a long shot.
The Egyptian Army has found the perfect balance between rhetoric and cultural discipline.
Which is to say, el Sisi isn’t an “Islamist” in any geopolitical or functional way.
Secularists remain a minority in Egypt, and there is no way for them to win in a free and open election in the long run. So the only way to maintain a secular Egypt is through force, for better or for worse.
Secularism is only one solution. A far more sustainable solution is a cultural rejection of radicalism.
That’s what happened. Millions rejected the Muslim Brotherhood.
That loss of face will be generational. Generations will remember the gasoline lines and hyper-inflated food prices under Morsi.