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Rand Paul: Iíve got Mike Enziís back vs. Liz Cheney
Politico ^ | 7/11/13 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 07/16/2013 6:23:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy

Rand Paul: I’ve got Mike Enzi’s back vs. Liz Cheney


Paul said he considers his colleague 'a good conservative.' | AP Photo

By ALEXANDER BURNS | 7/11/13 11:44 AM EDT

If Wyoming Sen. Mike Enzi ends up facing a primary challenge from Liz Cheney, he might be able to count on some help from one of his highest-profile conservative colleagues.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul told POLITICO Thursday that he considers Enzi “a good conservative,” and said he wasn’t familiar with Cheney’s interest in running against the incumbent Republican.

“I don’t know much about her or her politics, really,” Paul said. “I am a friend of Sen. Enzi and while we aren’t exactly the same, I consider him a good conservative.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/liz-cheney-mike-enzi-wyoming-senate-94015.html#ixzz2ZFuCmYq9

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; cheney; cheney2014; enzi; internettax; lizcheney; mikeenzi; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; ussenate; wy2014; wyoming
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Uh oh. How are Liz Cheney supporters going to spin this one? Good luck trying to portray Dick's daughter (the “Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State For Near Eastern Affairs” in the Bush administration) as the “anti-establishment” candidate, and the guy who is being backed by Rand Paul as a “RINO”

Bad move wasting time and money to try and “take out” someone who is already a reliable conservative. We need to stop eating our own and go after socialists in the U.S. Senate, IMO.

1 posted on 07/16/2013 6:23:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: Ingtar; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; ...

So now that several conservatives have decided they want to waste time trying to defeat a fellow conservative, the battle lines are being drawn...


2 posted on 07/16/2013 6:25:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

wow I actually agree with Paul.

If those who want Cheney want another McCain, Graham and pro homosexual and cross dressing then that for them but I won’t have it


3 posted on 07/16/2013 6:30:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BillyBoy

Too bad let her run she’d be a good senator. Rand Paul can support who he wants. The Cheneys are, duh, a well established Wyoming conservative family.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 6:30:33 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: BillyBoy

I don’t know if Rand Paul’s support automatically means someone isn’t in the establishment. I mean, Rand is one of Mitch McConnell’s top supporters and Mitch McConnell is as establishment as it gets.


5 posted on 07/16/2013 6:31:00 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: manc

Liz Cheney is none of the things on your list.


6 posted on 07/16/2013 6:31:33 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

really, OK lets go to her always being a hawk like McCain and Graham.
She will be like her dad and for her sister and support homosexual and cross dressing but of course she’ll shout lower taxes and the dopes who see the R will vote for her and ask yourself this.

Why is she going after another republican who is relative conservative and why not go after a Dem?


7 posted on 07/16/2013 6:33:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BillyBoy

Does she even live in Wyoming ? Add to that, I don’t see how she doesn’t add to the gay “marriage” RINO contingent in the Senate. We don’t need that.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 6:35:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BillyBoy
We need to stop eating our own and go after socialists
Dick Cheney already crossed that line when he dissed Sarah Palin unprovoked.

The Cheneys are dead to me.

9 posted on 07/16/2013 6:38:49 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Williams

“Too bad let her run she’d be a good senator. “

I don’t have any particular preference, but the idea that somehow Enzi is “entitled” to keep the seat I find at the center of the problem facing the GOP. Enzi has had three terms in the Senate. Just that fact alone should be the basis for a challenge from someone younger. In Utah, Bennett was kinda like Enzi, but you know, Mike Lee is young and vital in a way that Bennett ceased to be years ago. Face it, this staying in office until they carry you out, is a problem for the GOP too. Let the best candidate win. And I will bet you that if Enzi prevails, he will be a “renewed” Senator, so it’s all good!


10 posted on 07/16/2013 6:43:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: BillyBoy

Enzi wants to impose taxes on Internet sales. Go, Liz!


11 posted on 07/16/2013 6:45:30 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: vette6387

If Enzi is to be challenged, let it come from Congresswoman Cynthia Lummis.


12 posted on 07/16/2013 6:46:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BillyBoy

Sorry, but Enzi supports the ‘market fairness act’ which wants to tax all internet transactions. This issue has been repeatedly smacked down by SCOTUS and is unconstitutional. Rand also wants amnesty. I am not supporting an open borders/amnesty/tax the internet republican. If Cheney wants this, screw her too.

I am sick of the GOPe and their brand of pseudo-esoteric conservatives.


13 posted on 07/16/2013 6:49:19 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: BillyBoy

I’d like to know cheny’s position on immigration.


14 posted on 07/16/2013 6:51:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Fiji Hill

so do I. Screw Amazon.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 6:52:43 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
>> Enzi supports the ‘market fairness act’ which wants to tax all internet transactions. <<

So an internet tax is worse than the Cheney family's effort to destroy the institution of marriage? I'm pretty much most conservatives wouldn't agree with you on that.

>> Rand also wants amnesty. <<

Enzi does not. Feel free to check Mike Enzi's voting record on immigration, he is one of the BEST Senators we have in Washington when it comes to opposing rewards for illegals. You might have missed the part where Rand made it clear during the endorsement that he and Mike Enzi don't agree on everything. If anyone is likely to be a closet supporter for amnesty, it's Liz Cheney.

16 posted on 07/16/2013 6:56:53 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: Fiji Hill
Oh goody, another "conservative" who thinks Enzi failing to get an internet sales tax is worse than the Cheney family successfully leading the way to destroy traditional marriage in America.
17 posted on 07/16/2013 6:58:44 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: Williams

Liz Cheney supports homosexual marriage and the homosexual agenda.

So yes, she is some of those things.

Care to tell us what her position on abortion is?


18 posted on 07/16/2013 6:58:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: lewislynn

you make the mistake of assuming the daughter is the same


19 posted on 07/16/2013 7:02:56 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

to me liz cheney is very articulate, with a big question mark. She’s an unknown on many issues


20 posted on 07/16/2013 7:03:58 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Williams

If we were just going to elect families, then we should just go back to having a monarchy. FWIW, she never even lived in the state until last year when she moved in anticipation of running for office.


21 posted on 07/16/2013 7:04:13 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Mamzelle

You’re probably happy that California’s Governor Jerry Brown got Amazon to agree to collect taxes on sales to Californians.


22 posted on 07/16/2013 7:19:09 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 4rcane
>> you make the mistake of assuming the daughter is the same <<

Mary Cheney says she "can't think of a single issue" where her sister Liz disagrees with their dad. Is she lying?

23 posted on 07/16/2013 7:22:25 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I don’t see how she doesn’t add to the gay “marriage” RINO contingent in the Senate. We don’t need that.

Marriage is a state issue, not federal.

24 posted on 07/16/2013 7:23:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: vette6387
>> the idea that somehow Enzi is “entitled” to keep the seat I find at the center of the problem facing the GOP. <<

I don't think any Enzi supporters here think Enzi is "entitled" to keep the seat because he is the incumbent. We want him to keep the seat because has proven to be one of the most reliable conservatives, and Liz Cheney hasn't.

If anything, I think the problem is Liz Cheney supporters think she is entitled to have an extremely powerful political office in another state, simply because she her last name is "Cheney". She is entitled to run for it, but she is in no way deserving of it.

25 posted on 07/16/2013 7:25:51 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: newzjunkey; fieldmarshaldj
>> Marriage is a state issue, not federal. <<

It hasn't stopped Obama and Dick Cheney from using their federal office to lobby for it, and do everything in their power to have judges strike down federal laws to stop "gay marriage" from being imposed on states.

26 posted on 07/16/2013 7:27:33 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: stormer

OK then don’t vote for her. Her sister is gay duh. The woman is a good conseractive voice.


27 posted on 07/16/2013 7:29:44 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: stormer

OK then don’t vote for her. Her sister is gay duh. The woman is a good conseractive voice.


28 posted on 07/16/2013 7:29:45 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: stormer

OK then don’t vote for her. Her sister is gay duh. The woman is a good conseractive voice.


29 posted on 07/16/2013 7:29:46 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: BillyBoy
Oh goody, another "conservative" who thinks Enzi failing to get an internet sales tax is worse than the Cheney family successfully leading the way to destroy traditional marriage in America.

Did you support Ronald Reagan? Members of his family support Obama, whose policies are destroying this country.

30 posted on 07/16/2013 7:32:02 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: BillyBoy
Uh oh. How are Liz Cheney supporters going to spin this one? Good luck trying to portray Dick's daughter (the “Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State For Near Eastern Affairs” in the Bush administration) as the “anti-establishment” candidate, and the guy who is being backed by Rand Paul as a “RINO”

Are u talking about the Rand Paul who wants to give Amnesty to 2 million Undocumented Democrats each and every year based on a "Certification" by an Open Borders congress that the border is secure?

That stalwart conservative Rand Paul????

Sorry, but Rand Paul is NOT the definition of conservative, Liberatarian, yes, Conservative, NO!
31 posted on 07/16/2013 7:38:50 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: jeltz25
“Rand is one of McConnell's top supporters”

You could not be more wrong. There is no love lost here in Kentucky between the two. McConnell strongly backed Paul's opponent in the Republican primary. If McConnell gets primaried, and I pray he does, I suspect Rand will return the favor.

What would prompt you to make such a wrong assertion?

32 posted on 07/16/2013 7:41:00 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: Fiji Hill
Well, little Ronnie Jr. is. Everyone knows little Ronnie Jr. has loudly denounced his father's beliefs, unlike Liz Cheney who is one of the most outspoken defenders of her father and proudly stood with him as they applauded the gay mafia taking over the U.S. military.

If you can't tell the difference between Liz Cheney's relationship to her family and little Ronnie's, you're blind.

33 posted on 07/16/2013 7:41:22 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: SoConPubbie
>> That stalwart conservative Rand Paul???? Sorry, but Rand Paul is NOT the definition of conservative, Liberatarian, yes, Conservative, NO! <<

Huh? Nowhere in the post did I refer to Rand Paul as "the stalwart conservative". You are 100% correct he is a hardcover Libertarian like his daddy. What I said was that Rand Paul is anti-Washington establishment.

34 posted on 07/16/2013 7:42:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: lewislynn

And Liz publicly and strongly disagreed with her Father about Sarah - Just saying the sins of the Father are not necessarily the daughter.


35 posted on 07/16/2013 7:46:14 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: Tail Gunner John

What would prompt me?

Maybe this:

The Daily Caller has learned that Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul is endorsing Sen. Mitch McConnell for re-election in 2014, ending speculation that Paul would back a tea party challenge to the Senate minority leader.

“Rand Paul has endorsed McConnell,” Jesse Benton, McConnell’s 2014 campaign manager, told The Daily Caller.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/27/rand-paul-helps-squash-tea-party-challenge-to-mcconnell/#ixzz2ZGcDxnMO

Maybe “top supporters” was a bit strong. But I was just saying that it’s not like Rand Paul hasn’t supported any establishment types or played the same games everyone else does.


36 posted on 07/16/2013 7:49:02 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: BillyBoy

“We want him to keep the seat because has proven to be one of the most reliable conservatives...”

So it isn’t a problem for you that he’s been there for three terms? He’s “right on the issues,” so it’s o.k. for him to stay, is that what you think? I am not particularly fond of people from the Bush Admin., so Cheney might not best represent what my views are either, but it does seem unseemly for these people to ensconce themselves in a national office for a generation or more. It simply isn’t a healthy situation not to have new people more often.


37 posted on 07/16/2013 7:50:07 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: newzjunkey

Marriage isn’t a state issue today, there is no way that states will be allowed to ignore families that relocate or get transferred there by the federal govt, and military, pretending that ‘gay marriage’ is a state issue is a way to “get r done” for gay marriage nationally.

Besides the feds have to decide on many millions of marriages itself, such as in widow benefits and immigration policy and in the military and federal employment.


38 posted on 07/16/2013 7:51:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Fiji Hill

The Cheney family appears to be in lock step on homosexual marriage.


39 posted on 07/16/2013 7:53:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: vette6387
>> So it isn’t a problem for you that he’s been there for three terms? He’s “right on the issues,” so it’s o.k. for him to stay, is that what you think? <<

If the choice is giving him a fourth term, or giving someone else a first term who will vote to his LEFT, I'll take the fourth term. Ideally, I prefer politicians are term limited, but NOT at the expense of replacing them with someone who will be worse. Doing so would be cutting off your nose to spit in your face. There is clear evidence that Cheney is not as conservative as Enzi.

Alabama's Jeff Sessions is another solid conservative who has been there three terms. If the choice was giving him a fourth term or replacing him with an liberal Democrat Obama supporter who has never been in office, would it be o.k. for him to stay?

40 posted on 07/16/2013 7:56:07 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Liz would be a queer-enabler. Enzi is a doormat.

Is there not a more credible challenger?


41 posted on 07/16/2013 7:58:10 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: BillyBoy
If you can't tell the difference between Liz Cheney's relationship to her family and little Ronnie's, you're blind.

Other than guilt by association, can you come up with anything else that would disqualify her?

42 posted on 07/16/2013 7:58:13 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

She certainly is qualified to run under the U.S. Constitution. Whether she’s the best choice for Wyoming voters is another matter entirely

Candidate A (Enzi) is proven to be 100% rock solid on social issues like his conservative constituents, has a proven 93% conservative rating on all other issues, has been living in Wyoming his whole life, and knows its people and their culture like the back of his hand.

Candidate B (Cheney) joined the left in applauding homos taking over the military, has lived in Virgina for years and didn’t come anywhere near Wyoming for decades until she bought property there a few months ago, and has never been elected to any office in her life, but wants to be given the highest legislative office on the ballot because of her family name.

It seems clear to me which of the above will do a better representing Wyoming values.


43 posted on 07/16/2013 8:04:32 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: jeltz25

I will chalk the endorsement up to no other alternative. Unfortunately I don’t think anyone will run against Mitch.

During the primary McConnell was the second greatest obstacle for Paul to overcome.

When it comes down to holding your nose and endorsing McConnell over the only competition he’s likely to see, his democratic opponent, I guess I’m one of McConnell’s top supporters too.


44 posted on 07/16/2013 8:16:40 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: BillyBoy
Huh? Nowhere in the post did I refer to Rand Paul as "the stalwart conservative". You are 100% correct he is a hardcover Libertarian like his daddy. What I said was that Rand Paul is anti-Washington establishment.
Sorry, but judging by Rand Paul's actions of late, I think even that opinion is little more than wishful thinking:

Sen. Rand Paul endorses Mark Sanford for Congress

Rand Paul Endorses Immigrant Path To Citizenship

Rand Paul endorses Mitch McConnell in 2014 Senate race, won’t back tea party challenge

Rand Paul aides say Lamar Alexander ad is not an endorsement
45 posted on 07/16/2013 9:13:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Williams

The woman is a good conseractive voice.

Conservative on what issues? What’s her position on the Obama immigration bill? What’s her position on pro-life? Do you know? I don’t.


46 posted on 07/16/2013 9:19:36 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII; Williams
If she has not articulated an Anti-Gay Agenda position including an absolute anti Gay Marriage stance, she is not conservative.

If she has not articulated a complete Anti-Abortion position, she is not a conservative.

If she has not articulated a complete Anti-Amnesty stance, she is not conservative.

Anything less, and she is a GOP-E traitor to the conservative cause.
47 posted on 07/16/2013 9:25:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wyoming cannot do better than these two?


48 posted on 07/16/2013 9:31:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: BillyBoy

i give Liz Cheney the big NO from 2 time zones away.


49 posted on 07/16/2013 9:35:44 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: BillyBoy

“I prefer politicians are term limited, but NOT at the expense of replacing them with someone who will be worse.”

I guess, politically speaking, each of us has to determine the “who will be worse/better” equation. My observation was general in that turnover is a desirable feature in elected office. But as you say, not at the expense of ideology ( so long as the person actually effects the legislative process and isn’t there for his own personal interests or gain). The corollary is “where are all the new faces?”
And the compelling need to not see a seat turn over to the RATs.


50 posted on 07/16/2013 10:47:06 PM PDT by vette6387
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