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Martin v. Zimmerman: The media at its worst (author realizes he was lied to)
Cross Cut ^ | July 15, 2013 | John Carlson

Posted on 07/16/2013 6:36:53 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

Everything I initially wrote about the Trayvon Martin killing was based on network news reports. And it was almost entirely wrong.

In my KOMO radio commentary of March 23, 2012, I said the following about the killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman:

“Thinking of 17-year old Trayvon the way we’d think of our own kids is exactly how to view this tragedy. The man who police say shot him, George Zimmerman, is a 28-year old CrimeWatch volunteer, who apparently did just about everything a Crimewatch volunteer SHOULDN’T do, such as following the 17 year old teen when a 911 dispatcher advised him not to, confronting him when he had no business doing so, and shooting him. Mr. Zimmerman was not standing his ground against an aggressor, he WAS the aggressor. And Trayvon Martin received the death penalty for walking home in the rain wearing a hooded sweatshirt, and carrying a pack of candy.”

Everything I said was based on what the network news media had been reporting, and continued to report for months. And it was almost entirely wrong.

Eyewitness testimony and physical evidence backs up George Zimmerman’s claim that he was neither the physical aggressor, nor even “standing his ground” that night. He was confronted by an angry Martin, who knocked him down with a punch to the nose and proceeded to pummel him. (There is no evidence of a “fight,” but abundant evidence of an assault).

Trayvon Martin was shot not “walking home in the rain wearing a hooded sweatshirt,”but while straddling Zimmerman MMA style, beating him senseless, bloodying his face and punching or pounding his head against the concrete sidewalk.

The most disputed question that night — who was screaming for help before the shot was fired by Zimmerman? — has family and friends on both sides divided. But it raises another question that essentially answers itself: Who would more likely scream for help? The person being beaten, or the one doing the beating?

One of the most important, and remarkably under-publicized facts that came out at trial is that one of the detectives, while interrogating Zimmerman at the police station that night, told him that the entire incident had been caught on surveillance video. The detective was bluffing, but Zimmerman didn’t know that. His reaction: “Thank God”.

“Thank God.” How many people who do something wrong, lie about it and are told it’s on tape react that way?

Zimmerman certainly made mistakes that night; he should have stayed in his car. But they were mistakes in judgment. So weak was the criminal case against him that many were predicting his acquittal two days into the trial before the defense had even presented its case.

So why are so many people upset and angry about the verdict?

Because they still believe what I believed in that commentary a year and a half ago.

The news media, aided by activists like Al Sharpton, made this entire saga about race from the very beginning. When the racial narrative didn’t fit, the media distorted evidence, doctored audio tape or misled the public about the facts until it did. As Zimmerman’s attorney Mark O’Mara said after the verdict, the press turned Zimmerman, a man who mentored young African American school kids, into a “monster.”

Columnist John Nolte from Bigjournalism.com (the people who caught NBC editing a tape to make Zimmerman appear racist) compiled a superb timeline of the media’s race-crime narrative, supplemented with links. Some highlights:

On March 13, 2012, Al Sharpton interviewed the Martin family’s attorney Benjamin Crump, who described Zimmerman as white and claimed that it was Zimmerman who approached Trayvon Martin. The Associated Press had also erroneously described Zimmerman, a Hispanic, as white.

On March 21, 2012, CNN falsely accused Zimmerman of muttering the word “coon” when he called authorities. That was false, but not corrected by CNN for two weeks, long after it had influenced the media angle that Zimmerman was motivated by racial hostility.

On March 22, 2012, when it became clear that Zimmerman was Hispanic (Latina mom, white dad), the New York Times used a new term to describe Zimmerman: “White Hispanic.” Talk about reaching. People would rightfully take umbrage if the Times described the President of the United States as a “White African American.”

Also on March 22nd, at a Florida rally designed to build racial tension and force an arrest of Zimmerman, Al Sharpton stated “Trayvon could have been any one of our sons…” One day later, President Barack Obama echoed that line: “If I had a son," said the president. "he would look like Trayvon.” The racial narrative was set in stone.

It was reinforced by NBC four days later, when it edited Zimmerman’s call to police to make him look like a racist. Here is what NBC reported Zimmerman said:

“This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

Here’s the actual exchange between Zimmerman and the police dispatcher:

Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

Dispatcher: “OK, and this guy, is he black, white or Hispanic?”

Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

A few days after that, ABC claimed that Zimmerman wasn’t injured the night the shooting took place, airing a blurry video of Zimmerman at the police station and stating that “a police surveillance video taken the night Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman.”

As Nolte pointed out, ABC didn’t even bother to enhance the video before running with the report.

A day after that, when ABC’s report was sweeping the nation, NBC’s Chris Matthews backed up ABC’s version, even though one of his Hardball guests pointed out, with pictures, that Zimmerman’s head did show cuts and bleeding.

On April 9th, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill, again described Zimmerman as “white” and that he shot Martin after a “disputed altercation.”

Two days later, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey charged Zimmerman with Second Degree Murder.

And you wonder why so many people still despise George Zimmerman?

Liberal Harvard Law professor, Alan Dershowitz, to his credit, says that Corey’s decision to charge Zimmerman with Murder 2 was outrageous, politically motivated, based on a false affidavit and worthy of disbarment. Even when Judge Debra Nelson allowed an eleventh-hour request by prosecutors to convict Zimmerman on lesser grounds of manslaughter, the jury still cleared him.

What happened that night in Sanford Florida is a tragedy that cost one young man his life and likely ruined the life of another. But as an African-American minister told me, this trial needed to be about truth, not race. For the media, which distorted George Zimmerman’s ethnicity, his words and his injuries, it was precisely the opposite.


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KEYWORDS: blackrage; corruptmedia; dbm; drivebymedia; drivebys; enemedia; georgezimmerman; lamestreammedia; lsm; martin; mediabias; mediacorruption; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/16/2013 6:36:53 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

As the media arm of the State, it is the MSM’s job to lie.


2 posted on 07/16/2013 6:38:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Everything I said was based on what the network news media had been reporting, and continued to report for months. And it was almost entirely wrong.

Not quite.

Everything I said was based on what the network news media had been reporting, and continued to report for months. And it was almost entirely wrong deliberately dishonest.

3 posted on 07/16/2013 6:40:22 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Standing Wolf

I’m glad you fixed it.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 6:41:54 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

” The detective was bluffing”

No, the detective was lying. Cops lie routinely. They’re allowed to lie. They’re encouraged to lie. They’re rewarded for lying.


5 posted on 07/16/2013 6:44:35 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: skeeter

It has become very scary.

Something akin to the “Fairness Doctrine” might someday prevent any reporting contrary to what comes from pre-approved media outlets.


6 posted on 07/16/2013 6:44:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.”

-Winston S. Churchill


7 posted on 07/16/2013 6:44:59 PM PDT by digger48
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To: skeeter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-W30veRHfE


8 posted on 07/16/2013 6:45:34 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Wow. A journalist with some self-respect and humility.

This COULD be what therapists like to call a teachable moment for the country as it was for this writer. There’s little chance it will ..but he’s likely to convince some.


9 posted on 07/16/2013 6:48:49 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
And I thought Goebell's was dead - seems his soul is alive and kicking in the US Main Slime Media!
10 posted on 07/16/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

bttt


11 posted on 07/16/2013 6:53:59 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Lurker

In this case it was to Georges benefit. Maybe not what the police initially wanted, but to his benefit nonetheless


12 posted on 07/16/2013 6:56:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: chasio649
Thanks for that Youtube video. That gentlemen makes a lot of sense.

I should send that clip to my mom. She's an MSNBC viewer. She's outraged over the verdict and is still repeating the MSNBC and Nancy Grace lie that Zimmerman said "coons". She wouldn't believe her own son that the "coons" thing is a blatant media lie, but maybe her white guilt will make her actually believe the guy in the video when he dispels that "coons" myth.

13 posted on 07/16/2013 7:02:42 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: SE Mom

He’s a former “conservative” talk show host in Seattle....I’m surprised he was scammed....by the “news” media....


14 posted on 07/16/2013 7:06:42 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SE Mom

John Carlson was a conservative talker on KVI for quite some time.

The fact that he believed the lies and spin ginned up by the Martin family legal team, and the PR firm (Julison Communications) hired by Ben Crump to put pressure on the Florida justice system to file charges speaks volumes.

The spin machine got the first impression out, and I believe many conservatives bought into it because it made them appear “reasonable” and was a cheap inoculation against being thought of as racist.

The sad fact is that anyone that believes the MSM on any story without independent verification, especially if it involves race, is a fool, and if you voice an opinion based on that naive trust, you become a tool.

Carlson is a good guy, and he saw the light, but the fact that he got used by the race hustlers shouldn’t be the basis for an apology, it should be the spark for anger.

Carlson owes it to his listeners to call out the schemers who used him, but I bet, in order to stay in good graces with his current mainstream audience on KOMO, he won’t go there.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 7:09:48 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

self ping


16 posted on 07/16/2013 7:14:29 PM PDT by advertising guy (Phoenix...........where a prick in the butt ain't sexual.............it's a cactus)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
“Thank God.” How many people who do something wrong, lie about it and are told it’s on tape react that way?

Jodi Arias?

17 posted on 07/16/2013 7:16:21 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: goodnesswins
He’s a former “conservative” talk show host in Seattle....I’m surprised he was scammed....by the “news” media....

A lot of people got scammed -- many who should have known better.

I recall Hannity interviewing Santorum the first or second day after the story broke. And they agreed that the story was "an especially tragic reminder of the racism that still exists in the country".

It was not Hannity's finest moment. Nor Rick Santorum's.

18 posted on 07/16/2013 7:17:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARAD in the past.E)
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To: Lurker
They’re allowed to lie.

But you can go to jail for it...

19 posted on 07/16/2013 7:21:18 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: chasio649

that guy is great http://whateverhappentocommonsense.com/


20 posted on 07/16/2013 7:23:34 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: okie01

Like this moron. http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-zimmerman-very-sick-mind-motive-malicious-one-162845818.html


21 posted on 07/16/2013 7:25:07 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

22 posted on 07/16/2013 7:26:08 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Remember Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. If you don’t know just google it.


23 posted on 07/16/2013 7:30:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Let’s see....I think I learned from Ben Cartwright, or John Wayne, or whoever was playing Wyatt Earp at the time....

“Innocent until proven guilty.” That simple rule of law was set early and thrived through 2,000 years of the Roman-Anglo-American judicial experience....until just recently.

Burned in my mind are the various depictions of Wyatt Earp facing down the howling mob that wanted to lynch some poor soul. Wyatt used reasoned argument punctuated with a double barrel 10 gauge coach gun hammers thumbed back and ready for business.

“I’ll see this man gets a fair trial tomorrow....or see you in Hell directly.” or something like that.

And the various knockoffs of that manly story in many many other horse operas.

But alas, those fine westerns were mere morality plays....and I am naive enough still to believe them.

Thanks Pa. I miss you and the Ponderosa.

Wish you had raised this Carlson kid too and beat some sense into him.


24 posted on 07/16/2013 7:33:41 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: BenLurkin
It has become very scary.

Something akin to the “Fairness Doctrine” might someday prevent any reporting contrary to what comes from pre-approved media outlets.


This is very scary.

The media picked a random incident, blew up it out of proportion, lied about the incident, lied about a person involved in the incident to the point where the person could have gone to jail the rest of his life. All to advance a agenda and to get ratings.

And that's just the media. The people in the judiciary system broke laws, like the pretrial discovery process in order to get Zimmerman because they thought it would further their careers.

The only conclusion that I can draw from all of this is that media and the government is being run, for the most part, by a bunch of sociopaths who will destroy anyone to help themselves and their careers.
25 posted on 07/16/2013 7:36:23 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: Lurker
"No, the detective was lying."

You say he was lying, I say he was bluffing. Poker players bluff all the time.

"Cops lie routinely."

No they don't.

"They’re allowed to lie."

There are situations in which cops can lie. One such situation is in an interview when a suspect thinks he has gotten away with a crime. A bluff "lie" has tripped up many suspects who really WOULD have gotten away with a crime.

"They’re encouraged to lie."

Al Sharpton, is that you?

"They’re rewarded for lying."

Poker players get rewarded for lying. I have seen officers fired for lying.

Nice list of nonsense. I congratulate your LIV stereotyping.

26 posted on 07/16/2013 7:38:09 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
To the author, all I can say is, "Congratulations, you're an easily misled fool. Unfortunately, you compounded your foolishness by perpetuating the lies.

Dumbass. You are the epitome of a useful idiot.

27 posted on 07/16/2013 7:40:07 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Lurker

Before I forget, I want to remind you that the cops told the truth in this case. The police chief lost his job because he wouldn’t join the mob. These people have integrity. Learn about it sometime. Maybe you can get some, and refrain from sweeping ignorant stereotyping.


28 posted on 07/16/2013 7:42:16 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Mr Carlson:

Why are you believing ANYTHING the media is saying or has been saying since Barack Obama appeared on the scene and was running for office of President of the USA?

The media has been manipulating everything they have pushed out for the American citizens all the while supporting Obama.

Many of us recognized this years ago.

We were belittled for believing Obama was NOT legally entitled to even run for President.

We were belittled for challenging his ‘birth certificate’ which he finally came forward with.

We were belittled for being disgusted with Michelle Obama pushing herself into every part of American life she could.

We were belittled for challenging the vast amounts of money & frequency of the Obama ‘vacations’ all over the world.

We were belittled for ‘clinging to our ‘bibles-guns- and traditions’.

We were belittled for challenging Holder’s dismissal of sentences against the CONVICTED Black Panthers who intimidated voters at 2008 polling places.

We were belittled over the thousands of illegal voter registration cards that Obama’s own organization ACORN put into place for the 2008 election.

We have been belittled over voter fraud—yet in some precincts Romney didn’t receive ONE SINGLE VOTE!!! NOT ONE!!

We have been belittled over so many things I cannot even remember them all.

The media has been lying for so long while they prop up the Obama administration-—— when the house of cards falls, I believe a REVOLUTION will be right behind.


29 posted on 07/16/2013 7:44:02 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

30 posted on 07/16/2013 7:45:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: goodnesswins

he still falls for the “shoulda stayed in da car” hogwash


31 posted on 07/16/2013 7:52:58 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

bookmarking


32 posted on 07/16/2013 7:53:19 PM PDT by BallparkBoys (RESIST WE MUCH! ....We must, and we will much, about that, be committed!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

The rage exhibited that George did not lie down and die like a shmoo at the hands of a member of the #1 “protected class” is awesome to behold. Hell, George should have turned over his valuables and shot himself as reparations for slavery.


33 posted on 07/16/2013 8:00:59 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: okie01

Okie’s post “I recall Hannity interviewing Santorum the first or second day after the story broke. And they agreed that the story was “an especially tragic reminder of the racism that still exists in the country”.

They’re right if they’re referring to the racial divisiveness being promoted daily by MSNBC, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, and now the Obama administration. Which is the party of racial preferences? It’s the same party that takes people like Sharpton (Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse) and Jesse Jackson seriously as presidential candidates.


34 posted on 07/16/2013 8:09:53 PM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: Ticonderoga34
The only conclusion that I can draw from all of this is that media and the government is being run, for the most part, by a bunch of sociopaths who will destroy anyone to help themselves and their careers.

The government media complex has become dangerously corrupt, and I think working within the system to correct it has become impossible.

35 posted on 07/16/2013 8:10:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
One of the most important, and remarkably under-publicized facts that came out at trial is that one of the detectives, while interrogating Zimmerman at the police station that night, told him that the entire incident had been caught on surveillance video. The detective was bluffing, but Zimmerman didn’t know that. His reaction: “Thank God”.

Great post... a member of the MSM had his eyes opened? Amazing.

36 posted on 07/16/2013 8:28:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: skeeter; All
government media complex= democrats or the democrat party

The enemy of the American people is the democrat party. The democrat party controls

1. the news media
2. hollwywood
3. the presidency
4. The senate
5. the gov bureaucracies
5. the unions
7. the universities
8. the schools
9. soros , Lewis,zuckerberg, msny other billionaires are democrats.
10. Obama the main tyrant is a democrat
11. silicon valley, Google etc. are democrats
12. Pelosi, REid, fienstein, Shumer, Durbin , Lois lerner r democrats
13 . the rest of the media
14. IRS , EPA, DHS, HHS, TSA, FBI, etc.
15. liberals control the supreme Court( they approved Obamacare)
17. NAACP, La Raza, lawyers , AARP, many other groups
18 . Democrats control all the political money .Soros, tides foundation,gov grants,Zuckerberg,Lewis (another billionaire. moveon.org,unions etc.

Democrat party controls all this and more but the media and many others say that everything is the Republicans fault even though r’s have only a few votes majority in the House and that’s it

Democrats want to makes slaves of all Americans, turn us into cattle with less rights than a cow or farm chicken for them to manipulate. Democrats want to turn the USA into a communist state where all of us are totally dependent on government for everything, we own nothing.

The media is the most powerful entity in the USA and the world. the media made a non-crime( the zimmerman case) into the top news that everyone was focused on. all in attempt as Rush says to take away our guns and independence from government. 2 of the top stories of the year, zimmerman and newtown. they are hell bent on taking away our gun rights

37 posted on 07/16/2013 9:18:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media
The media is the most powerful entity in the USA and the world. the media made a non-crime( the zimmerman case) into the top news that everyone was focused on. all in attempt as Rush says to take away our guns and independence from government.

I agree with your post, but I wouldn't say that the media's intentional lying in and overhyping of the Zimmerman case was just an attempt to demonize guns. It was that, but it was mainly an attempt to keep alive the narrative of evil, racist white America. That narrative had been losing some steam lately because any reasonable person can see that white people are the most accomodating, tolerant people; but despite that racism today is directed at them. Thus, the media trumped up a narrative of an evil, racist, white Hispanic killing an innocent black boy, and then evil, racist, white jurors acquitting based on race. The media and Democrats need to keep that narrative alive to rile up the increasingly non-white Americans to vote against the evil, white, racist GOP. The media and the Democrats know these lies are leading to mob attacks and violence against white people, but they do not care.

38 posted on 07/16/2013 9:38:56 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

I admit when I first heard of this case a year ago I was scammed by a leftist who posted a Hatepo link about it on a different site. Then I thought, leftists always run with half truths half of the story and lies. The more I researched on my own the more I realized this was a self defense case.


39 posted on 07/16/2013 9:48:48 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Democrat_media

“The media is the most powerful entity in the USA and the world.”

The teachers’ unions are; they are the ownership of the Democrat party. Everything done there is at their behest; if Red China launched a missile attack on the West Coast Obama would dither in his response but very clearly state we need to hire 100,000 more teachers.

It isn’t even concealed anymore.


40 posted on 07/16/2013 10:03:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
For those who may not know, but "KOMO" Television & Radio, in the Seattle Market, is short for The KGB's Official Misinformation Outpost.

Just thought this would help even those Radio commenter's like say John Carlson, that here in the People's Republic of Washington, or better known as the San Fran-Freako of the North.

Nothing to see, just keep on walking by.

John Carlson you ran for governor of this State (Washington), and your supposed shock that the Government Media Complex lied, well, that explains why you lost!!!!

41 posted on 07/16/2013 11:00:54 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi; Repeat Offender; GenXteacher; Nervous Tick; BlatherNaut; ColdOne; Marcella; ..
More people need to speak out and make this very, very clear before the blood runs in the streets because eric will go home to his rich wife, al and jesse will return to their fancy digs in honkytown, and a lot of holder's people will end up in jail or dead.

This is a Black Rage Ping List, (by request,) to cover the aftermath of the GZ trial and archive the incidents. Let me know. And please add "blackrage" to the keywords. Thank you.


42 posted on 07/17/2013 12:21:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Respond Code Three

“You say he was lying, I say he was bluffing. Poker players bluff all the time.”

They weren’t playing poker. You rationalize just like a liberal. The ends justify the means. Right Barak?


43 posted on 07/17/2013 4:56:05 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Respond Code Three
Before I forget, I want to remind you that the cops told the truth in this case.

No, they lied to George Zimmerman.

The police chief lost his job because he wouldn’t join the mob.

Bully for him. He's not a liar, he simply employs liars.

These people have integrity

Integrity includes lying to people? Wow, that's a f***** up definition of integrity. Let me guess, youre a cop. Right?

44 posted on 07/17/2013 11:03:38 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BenLurkin

Unless maybe we insist on the Fairness Doctrine being applied to ALL media, not just radio.


45 posted on 07/28/2013 9:06:39 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Lurker
"No, they lied to George Zimmerman. "

And he didn't fall for it because he told the truth.

"Bully for him. He's not a liar, he simply employs liars."

So the police lied on the stand? Did Zimmerman get convicted based on police lies? If he employs liars, then by your statement, they had to have lied on the stand. You can't have it both ways.

"Integrity includes lying to people? "

No, but bluffing is a valid investigative technique. I have used it too.

"Wow, that's a f***** up definition of integrity."

It is your definition it seems. It's not mine.

"Let me guess, you're a cop. Right?"

And you're a cop hater, right? There are a lot of you on Free Republic. (I'm a retired officer.)

46 posted on 08/03/2013 9:43:27 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three
So the police lied on the stand?

Who knows if they did here? They lie on the stand elsewhere enough to know you can't take what they say at face value, any more than anybody else. And it's a fact they can lie to you at any time in an interrogation, but if you so much as shade the truth, it's a crime in and of itself. The officer in this case (Serino?) testified that he lied to Zimmerman. You can call it a bluff if you wish, but most people call it a lie. Told with the best of intentions, but an untruth nonetheless.

47 posted on 08/03/2013 10:11:33 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: Respond Code Three

“If he employs liars, then by your statement, they had to have lied on the stand. You can’t have it both ways.”

I sure can. Just because they chose not to lie under oath this time doesn’t make them any less of liars. They’re simply selective about whom they lie to and when. That may make them clever liars, but liars still.

“I have used it, too”

It’s not shocking to me that one government paid liar would stand up for other government paid liars. In fact it’s pretty much to be expected. I do not hate cops, but I do despise liars.


48 posted on 08/03/2013 11:35:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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"I sure can."

No, you can't.

"It’s not shocking to me that one government paid liar would stand up for other government paid liars."

Sorry, but I was not paid to lie. And when called upon to give information to Internal Affairs that could result in the firing of a fellow officer, I told the truth. And more than one officer was fired as a result of my statements. But you just keep your stereotyping and ignorance. It fits you like a uniform.

49 posted on 08/03/2013 4:45:05 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That is what I was asking. At which point did the police lie? Did they lie when they admittedly bluffed Zimmerman? Or did they lie on the stand when they testified believed his story, and testified that the evidence matched his statements?

It would be a waste of time to have some of these people on this thread as detectives. They would simply sit there and take the word of a murderer or rapist and not try to shake his story.

50 posted on 08/03/2013 4:57:11 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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