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Boy Scouts of America Jamboree Camp excludes obese Boy Scouts
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Posted on 07/16/2013 9:44:13 PM PDT by Java4Jay

"We required a level of fitness in order to come to the Jamboree that we haven't required before," McCarthy said. "And that has motivated an enormous return in terms of both kids and adults getting serious about improving their health."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bsa; duplicate; jamboree; obese; obesity; scouting; scouts
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...improving their health? Being gay is NOT healthy.
1 posted on 07/16/2013 9:44:13 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

Gotta have Über standards for der New Übermenches.

26-MAY-2013

Compass, Broken; 1 each.



Once upon a time this was a useful instrument for pointing the direction a boy should go.

Today, not so much - as the needle has fallen off and rendered the tool into a directionally errant piece of plastic


2 posted on 07/16/2013 9:47:09 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Java4Jay

the Onion, right? Or was this Michelle’s idea?


3 posted on 07/16/2013 9:48:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: Java4Jay

Wonder if they are turning away obese queers?


4 posted on 07/16/2013 9:48:36 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Java4Jay

To be fair, they have to give the kids at least the opportunity to outrun their seducer. The fat kids wouldn’t stand a chance.

Or they just don’t want fat kids ruining the “singles” scene.


5 posted on 07/16/2013 9:49:42 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Java4Jay

Obese boys not allowed but bring on the gays, all in the name of better health?


6 posted on 07/16/2013 9:50:39 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Bogey78O

Post of the day!


7 posted on 07/16/2013 9:53:01 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Java4Jay

The gay scout leaders only want the pretty boys.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 9:53:04 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Java4Jay
they also put into place new physical fitness requirements that eliminated morbidly obese Scouts from participating.

Oh I see, you don't want a fat kid doing exercise that might help the kid to reduce. Yep, makes perfect sense! Homosexual, no problem...we will celebrate brave homosexuals!

9 posted on 07/16/2013 9:54:25 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Java4Jay

There are fat faggots, ya know. I had somewhat of a clue that when these homos start raping kids, you have to be thin.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 9:54:40 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Java4Jay

The Hitler (homo) Youth discriminated against the obese too......the homosexual brownshirts were picky about the “Looks” of their boys.

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/5294/index.html


11 posted on 07/16/2013 9:56:37 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Java4Jay
What about a fat fag boy?

Wonder where he would rank?

12 posted on 07/16/2013 9:56:47 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: Java4Jay

Homo kids can’t be fat in the Gay, I mean Boy Scouts


13 posted on 07/16/2013 10:00:02 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the the God blessed chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: Java4Jay

Ward tells the Beaver he can’t go to Jamboree this year because he’s too fat while he watches neighbor gay kid packing up with big smile on his face.


14 posted on 07/16/2013 10:00:15 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction reading the headline.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 10:03:57 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Java4Jay

fag scouts great for health, fat scouts, no no no...

keep imploding, bsa...


16 posted on 07/16/2013 10:15:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Java4Jay

Between this kind of social engineering and their new status as Home for Homos, I predict there’s not much reason to be into scouting anymore.


17 posted on 07/16/2013 10:22:08 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Java4Jay

So this is how they become more “inclusive”?


18 posted on 07/16/2013 10:25:26 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Java4Jay

The perverts only want attractive victims in their tents.


19 posted on 07/16/2013 10:27:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Java4Jay

I am so sick of seeing this story. I was just talking to my grandson this evening. Tomorrow’s Jambo activities include taking a six mile hike to the top of Bechtel Summit. Out of shape kids can’t do that.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 10:31:14 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Java4Jay

homos don’t like fat kids


21 posted on 07/16/2013 10:31:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Java4Jay

Queers don’t like fatties.


22 posted on 07/16/2013 10:51:00 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Java4Jay

If Hispanic can be considered a race, why can’t Obesity?


23 posted on 07/17/2013 12:02:40 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Java4Jay

They don’t want sex with an obese boy, who takes up the space of three skinny boys that are preferred.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 12:40:16 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Not Guilty by reason of sanity.)
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To: Irenic

So fat kids being out doors and engaging in healthy activities like hiking etc is bad? The whole purpose of scouting as started by Lord Baden-Powell was to promote good health and well being in youth. “Physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight” Does this ring a bell with BSA execs?


25 posted on 07/17/2013 2:28:14 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: old and tired
so we deny them the entire experience because you (who lacks medical training) deems they can't do it - BS

how bout we let them try and stop sheltering them - maybe if a fat kid met his problems head on, he'd understand them and maybe grasp the concept that discipline starts at the table too

26 posted on 07/17/2013 3:06:42 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Bogey78O
To be fair, they have to give the kids at least the opportunity to outrun their seducer. The fat kids wouldn’t stand a chance.

Yeah, what sport is that?

27 posted on 07/17/2013 3:49:34 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: old and tired

“Tomorrow’s Jambo activities include taking a six mile hike to the top of Bechtel Summit. Out of shape kids can’t do that.”

So let the out of shape kids take a two mile hike. What’s the BIG DEAL?


28 posted on 07/17/2013 4:21:14 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: stars & stripes forever

Time for another major discrimination lawsuit.


29 posted on 07/17/2013 4:33:58 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: stars & stripes forever

lower the standards
That will get the boys to strive to meet challenges
What’s the big deal?
Isn’t that what Boy Scouts is about?
When the going gets tough, lower the standards

PS: Sign up to be a leader and take a group of obese kids on a 6 mile timed mountain climb, then get back to us


30 posted on 07/17/2013 4:50:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: stars & stripes forever

How do you suppose the fat kids are transported the first 4 miles?

The BMI they are using is over 40. That’s unquestionably overweight.

For a 5-5 kid, that is over 240 pounds.


31 posted on 07/17/2013 5:15:13 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Irenic

The kids are given four years to prepare to get their BMI to under 40. Do a google search of a bmi of 40 and you will see they are being fair.


32 posted on 07/17/2013 5:41:46 AM PDT by HollyB
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Perhaps the Scouts dropping their standards in the first place with regards to overweight kids is what ultimately led to them allowing gays.

Once you drop your standards in any area, it has a snowball effect.


33 posted on 07/17/2013 5:44:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Java4Jay

The title needs to be changed to Morbidly Obese, not just obese.

a 40% BMI is morbidly obese.


34 posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:16 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Java4Jay

Step 1: Gay = Yes

Step 2: Fat = No

Step 3: Gay and Fat = Profit?


35 posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:31 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: old and tired

Bingo - Thank you!


36 posted on 07/17/2013 5:46:04 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Java4Jay

No doubt the modern Boy Scouts would make an exception for any obese scouts who agreed to arrive dressed in women’s underwear.


37 posted on 07/17/2013 6:20:27 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Java4Jay

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3043574/posts


38 posted on 07/17/2013 7:09:22 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Java4Jay; All

This is done because obese boys are at risk because of the strain on their system when hiking rather rough terrain. It is also difficult to bring them out when they can’t complete a trail. It has nothing to do with the homo crap.


39 posted on 07/17/2013 7:10:21 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Java4Jay

What, queers don’t like fat kids?


40 posted on 07/17/2013 7:31:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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“Out of shape kids can’t do that.”

So? I thought the idea of the Scouts was to encourage effort, not ostracize those they deem not worthy. How will a fat kid understand their failure to stay in shape if they are only given tasks they can accomplish as fat kids? Let them go, but expect they must turn around at some point.


41 posted on 07/17/2013 7:33:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Java4Jay

Fudgepackers, yes. Chubbies, no.


42 posted on 07/17/2013 8:40:51 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: CodeToad

Harder to give a reach-around, y’know.


43 posted on 07/17/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: CodeToad
Yes, instead of being exclusive, why not let the obese scouts come and participate in other activities. I understand the concern that in the heat of the summer a six mile hike could potentially be deadly for those who are not in shape (that would include me).

Why not, during the year encourage those who need to reclaim their fitness to work toward the ability to do the six mile hike and other physically strenuous activities for the next Jamboree.

I remember Girl Scout camps and church camps and there were plenty of other activities to keep everyone busy. There is no need for the Boy Scouts to be exclusive unless they are totally inept at problem solving.

44 posted on 07/17/2013 8:49:22 AM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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The problem is lawsuits. Peolpe that are physically unfit injure them selves or have heart attacks and die.

Pandering to the unfit is not necessary.


45 posted on 07/17/2013 8:51:36 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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The problem is lawsuits. Peolpe that are physically unfit injure them selves or have heart attacks and die.


I assumed liability was their concern. I don’t think that putting together a goal toward being able to do the 6-mile hike is pandering though. Athletes don’t attempt what they do without training and being physically fit.

Attempting a six mile hike with, I assume, back packs in the summer heat is a potential suicide mission for someone who is overweight and not used to exercising regularly.


46 posted on 07/17/2013 8:58:51 AM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: MWestMom

A good adult Scout leader would stagger the adults to monitor the children and any child deemed needing to turn around is staged until more children are also ready to turn around. I’ve done this before in other events and that is how it was done. We knew there would be varying level s of achievements and capabilities and staged adults to guide those that need to back down.

It still gives those kids a sense of trying and the vision of what is needed to succeed. I worked heavily with the DD population years back in summer camps lasting 3 months and we never only let those that could do, we always encouraged those that couldn’t to try and then see for themselves.


47 posted on 07/17/2013 9:15:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

That is another good plan. I think this could have been handled differently and have see several good suggestions like yours. People just don’t seem to stop and problem solve these days.


48 posted on 07/17/2013 9:43:36 AM PDT by MWestMom (Psalms 109:8)
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To: CodeToad
So? I thought the idea of the Scouts was to encourage effort, not ostracize those they deem not worthy.

Then you think wrong. The idea of the Scouts is to create productive, self sufficient young men. To toughen them up. There are lots of opportunities for overweight Scouts to participate in activities. But SeaBase and PHilmont have always had weight requirements, and now the brand new, very mountainous, rough terrained Jambo has them too.

Personal Fitness is an Eagle required merit badge for a reason. It would be very difficult for a young boy to complete his PF badge and be more overweight than the current requirements.

49 posted on 07/17/2013 10:37:57 AM PDT by old and tired
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“To toughen them up. “

That’s the Army, not the Scouts. I have never seen a tough Scout before.

“Personal Fitness is an Eagle required merit badge for a reason.”

Again, I have never seen a tough Scout. In fact, the ones I have seen have been rather thin and weakly and nerdly looking.

Also, how does one become strong if tossed off activities that encourages toughness? Chicken, egg.


50 posted on 07/17/2013 11:04:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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