Skip to comments.Guns donít belong in places of worship (Illiinois barf alert)
Posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:59 AM PDT by rellimpank
Houses of worship dont just accommodate religious gatherings. They also are places where deeply troubled people come to get help. If for no other reason than that, they should be off limits to guns.
Unfortunately, a state law rushed through in the closing days of the spring legislative session that allows the concealed carrying of guns also makes it legal to bring those firearms into places of worship. Thats an alarming prospect that needs to be rectified as quickly as possible.
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The stupid is strong with this one. He both managed to introduce a non-sequitir and anthropomorphize an inanimate object ("off limits to guns") in the same opening sentence.
“They also are places where deeply troubled people come to get help.”
If true, then all the more reason to keep one’s weapon close.
He’s making the case to carry but is too dumb to realize it.
Of course they don’t want Christians with guns, so one day the Marxist Atheist can come in and kill us....and you know....so they won’t be out gunned!
Go to H&LL commies....
So police have to leave their guns outside?
They also are places where deeply troubled people come to act out, sometimes violently, sometimes with weapons.
I guess there should be a law requiring non-troubled, nonviolent parishioners to be sitting ducks.
A house of worship with no guns allowed is seen as a target rich environment to liberals moslems gays and other evil people.
A much shorter editorial would be a complete list of all the places the Sun-Times editorial board feels guns SHOULD be legal to carry.
Remember, this is the same paper that a few weeks ago fired its entire photography staff and told its reporters to take pictures and video for publication on their cell phones.
they can’t staff a newsroom but they know what’s best for society.
They are more targeted by the deeply weird, as places to inflict damage. That’s why my pastor has to keep an armed protective agent at his side throughout worship service, with others stationed throughout the church. The congregation is fully capable to taking care of itself as well. Slap leather in this house of God, and you will be shown the error of your ways.
The Sun-Times conveniently forgets several incidents where armed parishioners ended a violent attack in the sanctuary. One big one was in Colorado Springs.
Don't kid yourself; a tyrannical state always takes control of the churches (or simply liquidates them) as soon as they can. It is going to happen here very soon unless something changes. And the pretext is going to be "civil rights".
New Life Church shooting
At about 1:00 p.m. MST (20:00 UTC), thirty minutes after the 11:00 a.m. service had ended at New Life Church, Murray opened fire in the church parking lot, shooting the Works family and Judy Purcell. Murray then entered the building’s main foyer where he shot Larry Bourbonnais, hitting him in the forearm. At this point, Jeanne Assam opened fire on Murray with her personally owned concealed weapon. Police say that after suffering multiple hits from Assam’s gun, Murray fatally shot himself.
“They also are places where deeply troubled people come to get help. If for no other reason than that, they should be off limits to guns.”
This is where the anti-gun crowd fails badly. If a “deeply troubled” person wants to bring a gun no law saying they can’t is going to stop them.
The happy people need guns to protect themselves from the unhappy people.
Let the gun-grabbers start frisking’em at the mosque entrance and see how far that gets them.
Well, unless it’s a church run by some foul mouthed little fleeb who screams “God DAMN America” from the pulpit. Those churches are juuuuuuust fine. Especially with the current resident of the white house.
And grocery stores are where deeply troubled people go to get food.
Of course. I don’t expect that we will get better than Zero in the future. In the New Normal good is evil and evil is good. Because the IRS will be the vanguard of the forces the Regime deploys against Christians, churches should be studying ways to divest themselves of paid staff and property so that they can survive underground and under the radar. And, IMHO, they need to gun up. There will be invasions of their sanctuaries both by “official” JBTs and by the opportunistic hoi polloi.
Guns belong there far more than “Gad Damn America!” as Obama’s pastor said repeatedly.
Guns belong there far more than the racism that is seen in Chicago churches.
Guns belong in there far more than the support for abortion that has been in there.
Guns belong in there far more than the support for homosexuality, a sexual deviancy, that has been in there.
Ah... does anyone else catch the inherent assumption here?
If there's a law, a rule or a sign, a "deeply troubled person" would not bring a gun in to a church for nefarious reasons.
My church has armed security but does not allow firearms by members or visitors. I am okay with that. All it takes is one nutbag to open fire and you have a major tragedy in a place where people come for quiet reflection.
I am not so much worried about Christians with guns as much as I am worried about Christian-haters who may try to commit mayhem and evil against members of the church.
As an usher, we are trained to keep our eyes open to suspicious behavior and we are instructed to find a security guard if there appears to be a threatening situation.
Outside the church, I’m all for concealed carry but there are some places I’m okay with leaving the guns in the cars and relying on professional security for that two hours. In an auditorium-type situation I think an amateur with a gun is just as likely to hit the wrong person as they are to hit the perp.
ah... I guess most of you DID catch that.
Our policy is no open carry, but we do have people (especially ushers) that DO closed carry, with the approval of the church. Recall the incident at New Life Church in Colorado in which a female parishioner DID stop a guy who had already killed some people in the parking lot and then entered the church to make a “bigger statement.”
ditto, there are several places you are a sitting duck if some one opens fire, schools and churches being among them.
There are places in Memphis I would not go unarmed. Went to pick blackberries from the house we are selling there, and I felt darn uncomfortable not having my gun, but as I was going to the Military base after, I could not carry it.
Guns belong everywhere there is a possibility that ferals, whack-o’s or degenerates might accost you and your family. Everywhere! The 2nd Amendment didn’t limit “where”. What’s wrong with these anti-2nd-Amendment pinhead morons? Are they asshat moonbats...or what?
Sometimes I read the article, want to comment and see all of the other FReeper comments and think to myself “couldn’t have said it better myself”. God bless all of you. Onward Christian soldiers!
“Guns dont belong in places of worship “
And neither do people who are hell-bent on robbing, assaulting or murdering anyone. But people of such a mindset are not restrained by the laws we have to forbid such things let alone the place they choose to commit their crimes. That is why people have a need of self-defense no matter where they are.
This A$$ Wagon has never been in a church. He is more worried about all the emotionally unstable people that go to church (in his opinion) than he is of the all the evil people outside the church that hate religious people.
That's my kind of humor. lol
They need to pass laws to keep this Brain Fart out of churches.
You must go to church in either Chicago or Faluja.
... And government buildings where deeply troubled people are elected and empowered.
A small town Baptist Church in Daingerfield, Texas a few years back had a person walk in the back door and shot several people. There were no carriers in the congregation and he had easy pickings.
It should be up to the Church as to whether firearms are allowed on the premesis and who is allowed to carry them.
We, the people, do NOT need spooge from GuvCo telling US what's best.
"He can't even run his own life. I'll be damned if he'll run mine!"
Weird how those who used to sing the protest songs of the 60s and early 70s are now the ones in control telling everybody else what to do (while they themselves do something else).
Wait until they find out there are whips, flails, and clubs in some of the Stations of the Cross depictions.
Um... Yes they do.
There is nothing more tempting to a wolf than a helpless flock of sheep...
Ping for later
Tell it to the Coptic Christians as they get dragged out and killed.
If you attend a Christian church, it’s a target. The bigger the church, the bigger the target. Christian pastors have been under increasing and credible threats from the Left wing radicals, abortionists, militant Lesbian/Gay advocacy groups, and most recently, Mohammedan jihadist here in the U.S. And, no, the “Dodge City” or “Wild West” scenario with an exchange of indiscriminate gunfire by “amateurs” has never happened. Amateurs have successfully defended themselves for quite some time in this country. If you knew what to look for, you’d be surprised by just how many carry concealed these days. Everywhere.
Not all churches are created equal. Some are the church of race baiting. Don’t be fooled. Even some suburban churches, loaded up for social justice are baiting people. Look for the Rick Warren, emergent churches- as well as the ghetto churches.
“they should be off limits to guns”?
And every other place lots of folks gather in large numbers where they can be targets???
I love my Kimber
I do. I'm not. I are one of the many. :o)
The right question is When does the state require individuals to give up their right to self defense?