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Liz Cheney Would Be Fourth Republican Senator To Back Gay Marriage
Politix ^ | July 17, 2013 | David Mark

Posted on 07/17/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy

Liz Cheney Would Be Fourth Republican Senator To Back Gay Marriage
Sen. Mike Enzi, her GOP primary opponent, opposes it

by David Mark
Editor-in-Chief


Liz Cheney, 2014 Republican Senate candidate in Wyoming, and daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney. • AP

There are few policy differences between Wyoming Republican Senate candidate Liz Cheney and the incumbent she's trying to oust in 2014, Sen. Mike Enzi. Except for one issue: Gay marriage.

Unlike Enzi, the 46-year-old daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney supports the right for states to legalize gay marriage. At least that's what she said in 2009, in an interview with MSNBC, of all places. At that was a time when the notion of same-sex marriage had considerably less support.

And that has even Daily Kos writer Scott Welch offering at least limited praise for Liz Cheney. Cheney, Welch writes:

Seemed to indicate tentative support for marriage equality and LGBT rights at large, saying: 'Well, look I think, you know, my family has been very clear about this, that we think freedom means freedom for everybody and that this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.'

While Cheney's language is hardly a full-throated, ringing endorsement of equality ('this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves'), her aligning herself with her family is encouraging: her sister, Mary, who is an out lesbian and her father both are on record support marriage equality. She went on to reiterate opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, expressed support for the State Department's extension of benefits to same-sex couples, and said, 'I think it's wrong to discriminate, in those relationships, based on someone's sexual preference.' Additionally, she supported repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

All this leads me to wonder, should we be rooting for Cheney in her primary campaign against Enzi? Don't get me wrong: I would abhor seeing either of them elected to the Senate. Both embrace the Tea Party agenda and the right's nutty conspiracy theories wholeheartedly. That being said, even if the primary is as ugly as possible, the winner of the GOP primary will, come 2014, be elected Senator in a state as ruby red as Wyoming. Given that either of them would both toe the Tea Party line if elected, why not root for Cheney in the hopes that she might be a sleeper vote for LGBT rights such as the Employee Non-Discrimination Act? It's hard to see on what issues she might be farther to the right than Enzi.

If elected, Cheney would be the fourth Republican senator to back same-sex marriage, along with Mark Kirk, Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Rob Portman (Ohio). Most Democratic senators have said they support gay marriage.



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; cheney; enzi; homosexualagenda; lizcheney; logcabinrepublicans; mikeenzi; randsconcerntrolls; rinos; senate; wy2014; wyoming
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Congrats, Liz Cheney supporters. For Wyoming's GOP primary, you're on the same side as Daily Kos! Isn't that special?
1 posted on 07/17/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: BillyBoy
Nein, danke.
2 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: BillyBoy

The Cheneys are as repugnant as the Bushes and Obamas. All cut from the same cloth.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 1:55:51 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: BillyBoy; All
From the National Review :

So what will this election be about, besides her argument that it’s time for fresh faces and new blood, and his argument that she’s not really connected to the state, having only bought a house in Wyoming last year? Probably gay marriage.
Liz Cheney on gay marriage, back in 2009: “My family has been very clear about this: we think freedom means freedom for everybody. This is an issue states have to decide for themselves…. States have got to make this decision… I certainly would not like to see a constitutional amendment you know, as was suggested in the last administration, banning it."

SOURCE: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/353636/cheney-enzi-let-rumble-begin-jim-geraghty

4 posted on 07/17/2013 1:56:53 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Would you prefer the incumbant, or some imaginary, perfect candidate?


5 posted on 07/17/2013 1:57:33 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry

I would prefer the incumbent, who has a 93% lifetime conservative record and is not a “RINO”, despite the fantasy of Liz Cheney backers. There are numerous other Republicans up for re-election in 2014 who are more liberal and more deserving of a primary challenge.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:23 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy
this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.'

And how is that a bad thing. I don't like it that several states have legalized homosexual marriage, but I don't heve to live in them either. When they start trying to force my home state to recognize their marriage, THEN I have a problem.

7 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: BillyBoy
Not interested in putting big name Republicans into office unless that name is Palin.
8 posted on 07/17/2013 1:59:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: BillyBoy

Liz must have seen Brokeback Mountain one too many times.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 2:00:03 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: BillyBoy
How globalist-RINO of Liz Cheney to go for a conservative Republican Senator. Why didn't she move to AZ in 2012 and primary McCain? Or maybe she could primary Lindsey Graham. Or how about that NJ Senate seat? (it doesn't seem to matter where a connected person lives before they decide to run for office)

Her doing this and expending conservative energy like this tells me one thing. She's not on our side.

10 posted on 07/17/2013 2:00:26 PM PDT by grania
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To: BillyBoy

A constitutional amendment (affirming or outlawing homosexual marriage) is outside of all possibility, so why worry over it?


11 posted on 07/17/2013 2:01:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: BillyBoy

I’d expect an open border vote out of her as well.

I actually like the woman as a communicator but we don’t need her in politics.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 2:01:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BillyBoy

Not only no, but Hell No!


13 posted on 07/17/2013 2:04:06 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Agreed. An amendment would never happen at this point, so who cares? Might as well ask if a politician supports money trees or free supermodel spouses for everyone.

At least Liz won’t be a “go along to get along” career politician like Enzi.


14 posted on 07/17/2013 2:04:35 PM PDT by RB156
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To: cripplecreek

She’s fine, I do want to know about the border issue. Wyoming can decide on her.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 2:05:52 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And how is popular sovereignty a bad thing, Mr. Lincoln? I don't like treating human beings as property either, but if Maryland says its fine and dandy to have slavery and own another person, who am I to tell them otherwise?

16 posted on 07/17/2013 2:06:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Conservative...not so much.....


17 posted on 07/17/2013 2:06:47 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: BillyBoy

All Cheney is doing is lining up support behind the incumbent Enzi who is as much a business as usual RINO as she is.

I HAVE ALWAYS SAID OVER 90 PERCENT OF THE INCUMBENTS ARE PHONY CONSERVATIVES AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE GUYS LIKE ENZI.

MAYBE A THIRD REAL CONSERVATIVE SHOULD RUN HERE AND LET THE RINO’S SPLIT THE REST OF THE VOTE.


18 posted on 07/17/2013 2:08:41 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: grania
That ironic thing, Liz Cheney fans keep telling us she's better because she's willing to "Stand up and fight and against liberals", but that if WERE true, she'd be running for a Senate where she actually has to fight a liberal to get it, and face a real contest in November. She's not, she's carpetbagging in Wyoming because it's easier to run for a seat in a "safe state" with her daddy's name, even if that means having to run against a solid conservative.
19 posted on 07/17/2013 2:08:53 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy
Where is "marriage" in the Constitution?

How about Mordor-on-the-Potomac get out of the issue of marriage altogether?

20 posted on 07/17/2013 2:10:18 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: cripplecreek; BillyBoy

” I’d expect an open border vote out of her as well.”

And you will doubtless get it.

No more NWO folks!


21 posted on 07/17/2013 2:10:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: BillyBoy

Do you not think 3 terms in the Senate is enough? I think Enzi has overstayed his welcome. In a perfect world, term limits would’ve made him ineligible to run again even in 2008. Even if not by Cheney, I hope someone successfully primaries career politician fossils.


22 posted on 07/17/2013 2:11:40 PM PDT by RB156
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To: Williams

That’s my feeling too - let Wyoming make that decision. Mark endorsed her last night and at this point, I’m not sure if he is aware of her stance on gay marriage. I know that I wasn’t. The one thing she has going for her is that she is a spit-fire.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 2:11:53 PM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: cripplecreek

I’d expect an open border vote out of her as well.

I actually like the woman as a communicator but we don’t need her in politics.

**
Exactly. Well said.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 2:12:33 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: BillyBoy

Yeah, I won’t send money to her campaign over this issue. She is wrong. I understand she loves her sister, that is fine.

State governments and federal governments NEITHER should be endorsing perversion.


25 posted on 07/17/2013 2:12:53 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cripplecreek

“I actually like the woman as a communicator but we don’t need her in politics.”

We have a winner!


26 posted on 07/17/2013 2:15:21 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: RB156

Again, I support term limits, but NOT at the cost of replacing the Senator with someone who would be WORSE.

Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) is another strongly conservative GOP incumbent who has been in the U.S. Senate three terms. If he runs for a fourth term, would you back a liberal Democrat Obama supporter to replace him just so there would be “fresh young blood” in the Senate?


27 posted on 07/17/2013 2:15:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Comparing sodomy to slavery? Sorry, it doesn’t fly here.


28 posted on 07/17/2013 2:16:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: BillyBoy

I am waiting for Karl “Tokyo” Rove to offer his opinion on Liz Cheney. I will do the opposite of what Rove says we should all do.


29 posted on 07/17/2013 2:18:05 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Go OSU Cowboys! Of course most of you are from Texas, but go anyway!)
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To: BillyBoy

Enzi needs to step up his game. He should spend more time with Cruz.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 2:18:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BillyBoy

Enzi wants to tax the Internet. No way, Jose!


31 posted on 07/17/2013 2:18:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: BillyBoy

The “divide and conquer” machine has been started up again.


32 posted on 07/17/2013 2:19:04 PM PDT by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Tell me, would you be OK with legislation to repeal the 2nd amendment and “send it back to the states” to decide whether or not to allow people to own guns? Plenty of liberal states WANT to ban guns (New York, Illinois, etc.), but can’t because the big, mean, federal government won’t let them. Do you support “states rights” for them?


33 posted on 07/17/2013 2:19:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Well, I’m done supporting her. Had no idea, thanks for posting this.

Another day, another disappointment. It never ends with the GOP.

Perhaps, We the Conservatives should start our own party. Just throwin’ it out there, don’t mind me....


34 posted on 07/17/2013 2:21:40 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Catsrus

Levin talks about how bad the Republican Party is and then turns around and supports an inside the beltway name that’s suddenly set up residence in Wyoming??????

I’m listening to what people are saying right now so I’m not ready to throw Levin out like Cheney, but I do know that Mark was the pipeline of info to El Rushbo from Washington DC.

Is Levin a pipeline of talking points from inside the beltway or an outside the beltway conservative????

Who’s put the bucks into his Landmark Legal Foundation over the years???????

THE ONLY ONES I TRUST ARE PALIN, CRUZ AND TO AN EXTENT RAND PAUL.......BUT PAUL IS MANEUVERING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016 WITH ENDORSEMENTS OF POLITICIANS LIKE MCCONNELL AND NOW ENZI IN WYOMING.


35 posted on 07/17/2013 2:21:56 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Jay Redhawk

” I am waiting for Karl “Tokyo” Rove to offer his opinion on Liz Cheney. I will do the opposite of what Rove says we should all do.”

GREAT litmus test!

B U M P


36 posted on 07/17/2013 2:22:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: BillyBoy

It sounds like she is a “Rubio Conservative.” We will find her true colors if and after she is elected.


37 posted on 07/17/2013 2:23:03 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: BillyBoy

I don’t think we need any more establishment republicans in congress, thanks.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 2:24:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: BillyBoy

And, again, the 2A also does not equate with what kind of sex a person prefers. Like I said, ANY type of pro- or anti- homosexual marriage amendment is going exactly nowhere, so why worry about it?


39 posted on 07/17/2013 2:24:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: BillyBoy
No one who supports any of the demands of sodomy is a conservative in any shade.

No one.

40 posted on 07/17/2013 2:24:43 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; BillyBoy
this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.'

And how is that a bad thing.


Because it is a political shellgame trick. Sure, let one state decide, then 2, and 4, and another dozen, etc. Eventually, the other states will be coerced into reciprocity agreements, but the politicians can say they didn't support it.


41 posted on 07/17/2013 2:24:51 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

You seem to think that the legislators in the states with anti-homosexual marriage constitutional amendments are going to just roll over. When the sodomites sue the first state to try to force reciprocity, they will find over 35 other states joining in on the side of the defendant state.


42 posted on 07/17/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Marriage isn’t a state issue today, there is no way that states will be allowed to ignore families that relocate or get transferred there by the federal govt, and military, pretending that ‘gay marriage’ is a state issue is a way to “get r done” for gay marriage nationally.

Besides the feds have to decide on many millions of marriages itself, such as in widow benefits and immigration policy and in the military and federal employment.

Gay marriage has already been recognized by the federal government, the military, and in immigration and several states, no state is going to be able to stop those families at their borders or with a separate set of family laws.


43 posted on 07/17/2013 2:30:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: BillyBoy; grania

” That ironic thing, Liz Cheney fans keep telling us she’s better because she’s willing to “Stand up and fight and against liberals”, but that if WERE true, she’d be running for a Senate where she actually has to fight a liberal to get it, and face a real contest in November. She’s not, she’s carpetbagging in Wyoming because it’s easier to run for a seat in a “safe state” with her daddy’s name, even if that means having to run against a solid conservative. “

Good post.


44 posted on 07/17/2013 2:32:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: G Larry

First we need an immaculate Republican virgin


45 posted on 07/17/2013 2:33:22 PM PDT by woofie (rns everyne a)
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To: BillyBoy; All

Thank you for referencing that article BillyBoy. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed against Mr. Mark, the author of the article, and not you.

For the record, I support only traditional one man, one woman marriage.

The problem with article is the following. What pro-gay activist justices and Obama guard dog Fx News don’t want citizens like Mr. Mark to know is that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate marriage. In fact, the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitutution’s silence about such issues means that government power to regulate such things are automatically reserved uniquely to the states.

So Mr. Mark’s article wrongly implies, imo, that the idea of the states regulating marriage is nothing more than a matter of opinion when it is actually 10A-protected state power.


46 posted on 07/17/2013 2:33:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DTogo

The federal government has had to be involved in it’s own definition of marriage since the Continental congress first legislated on it in 1780.


47 posted on 07/17/2013 2:34:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: BillyBoy

I’d support states rights for the 2A just as the left supports states rights for homo marriage. I’d appreciate having my gun carry as portable as they want a homo marriage to be.


48 posted on 07/17/2013 2:34:18 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ansel12

You talk like it is a done deal. If so, why fight it?


49 posted on 07/17/2013 2:35:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Amendment10

See post 43, the “states” argument is an argument for gay marriage.


50 posted on 07/17/2013 2:36:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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