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Jury Finds Roderick Scott Not Guilty (Scott was a black man who killed a white teenager.)
YNN Rochester | 12/18/2009 | Mike Hedeen

Posted on 07/17/2013 2:54:55 PM PDT by neverdem

Here's the link.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: neverdem

Many of those gray States do not have SYG laws because they never had “you must cower and run” laws in the first place.


41 posted on 07/18/2013 5:52:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: neverdem

We finna hava riot ova dis!


42 posted on 07/18/2013 6:00:03 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: neverdem

I love a Happy Ending! I don’t care WHAT color a perp is when he meets his self-inflicted FATE.

Is that being Racist? *SNORT*


43 posted on 07/18/2013 6:34:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Re: Trayvon Martin's uncle, Ronald Fulton:

Ronald Fulton is on the executive committee of the Community Relations Board (CRB) of Miami-Dade County. The stated mission of the Community Relations Board of Miami-Dade County reads in part: "The primary mission of the Community Relations Board is to intervene and contain community tensions, as quickly as possible."

I can't think of a more ironic example of why such boards should be disbanded as counterproductive. I'll bet these guys have a direct pipeline to creeps like Sharpton. They may even have the budget to pay him to show up and make a stink.

44 posted on 07/18/2013 6:35:24 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: neverdem
Looking at that map, we here in Ill-i-noise (Democrat People's Republic of) actually have pretty good self defense law.

See this from Illinoiscarry.com: Justifiable Use of Force - IL Statute

45 posted on 07/18/2013 6:37:08 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Ride to ruin, and the world’s ending! Death! Death!. DEATH! FORTH ÉORLINGAS!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
...the honest citizenry has the right to defend itself against criminals.

The WHOLE purpose of Zimmerman is to defeat the Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws enacted across the US. over the last 30 years. Libs want to revert to the days when "social justice" reigned and criminals were not convicted or incarcerated. Because, after all, it isn't their fault; it's the fault of white male hegemony.

46 posted on 07/18/2013 6:55:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

not enough trial info from the report

can’t tell if the situations - beyond the basics - were closely similar or very different

more info on the case need to judge

that is to judge the circumstances

BUT yes, where was the media in that case

absent because of the race of the shooter or the race of the victim???


47 posted on 07/18/2013 8:02:09 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: snarkytart
Either way I think it was reasonable to shoot but I’m not sure about twice.

He did the right thing by firing twice. Handgun bullets don't usually stop a healthy young man in his tracks, especially if he's drunk on alcohol or drugs. A .44 magnum or a .50 S&W round might do the job, but those revolvers aren't usually employed for self defense purposes. If God forbid my life is ever endangered by an attacker I will fire my .38 spl or .45 acp until he goes down, my gun is empty, or I am overcome because my shots are missing or aren't taking affect quickly enough. The rule of thumb in almost all of those situations is that if you have just cause to use deadly force you have just cause to use it effectively no matter how many shots are fired or what the final outcome may be.

I'm certainly no expert on that sort of thing, but the above sums up what I have read that was written by people who are experts in that field, or at least they claim to be. Use it at your own discretion.

48 posted on 07/18/2013 8:32:20 AM PDT by epow ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." Thomas Paine)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

However, it’s been pointed out that in Florida, black people proportionately use SYG more than whites or Hispanics.

For this reason, when the left touts, “responsibility to retreat”, we should all throw into their face that it really means:

“responsibility OF BLACK PEOPLE to retreat.”


49 posted on 07/18/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: neverdem

I have nothing to do this afternoon; I think I’ll go downtown and riot!


50 posted on 07/18/2013 8:55:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

But if you did, could you come home and look those little goats in the eye and tell them there’s no hate in your heart? ... I doubt you have the level of duplicitous thinking required to be a good rioter. And you would need a big dose of Magic Thinking to justify your riotous behavior don’tchaknow.


51 posted on 07/18/2013 8:57:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SunkenCiv

bttt


52 posted on 07/18/2013 9:12:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping....I took the occasion to refresh myself on Nevada self defense laws.

The only thing I would like to see change here is to have a Castle Doctrine for immunity against law suits, other then that all seems to be in order.

Even carry laws here are in order, shall issue State, may carry in car even concealed as long as the weapon is not concealed on your person (absent CCW).

Now all we have to do is get rid of Reid and Heller.


53 posted on 07/18/2013 10:27:32 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Dallas59
LED...no nasty LCDs.

LED's are LCD's. The LCD just uses LED's as a backlight.

54 posted on 07/18/2013 10:31:32 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; neverdem; All
So, now, there are two cases that compare - both from New York.

2009: Roderick Scott found not guilty when he armed himself and confronted teens breaking into cars. He shoots and kills a 16-year-old.

2010: John White found guilty but released early after he'd armed himself and walked out of his house to confront a group of teens, and then shot and killed a 17-year-old.

White had walked out of his house to confront of a group of teens. When John White was found guilty, Al Sharpton organized protests in support of him.

Zimmerman, armed, exited his vehicle. When George Zimmerman was found not guilty, Sharpton organized protests against him.

There are some differences: The first two cases were in New York, where the law requires you to retreat to a safe place (right?) In the John White case, the group was targeting his family and came to his house. In the Roderick Scott case, the teens were (allegedly?) breaking into cars. According to Zimmerman's own account, Martin was just walking down the street (at first). (There are no eyewitnesses to what happened between GZ exiting the vehicle and TM being on top of GZ, right?) But we do know that GZ didn't shoot until TM was literally on top of him.

But, there's another main difference: Both Scott and White walked out of their own homes and brandished guns at a group of teens. Zimmerman got out of his vehicle, and it doesn't sound like he brandished his gun at T. Martin.

It doesn't matter what anyone out there reading might think about the GZ trial and its outcome. (I personally am not a fan of GZ.) You'd have to admit that Sharpton and his minions of all races, along with the media, are playing both sides, just to pit people against each other. These protests, the uproar - it's about money and politics, and nothing else.

55 posted on 07/18/2013 10:42:33 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Don't forget that John White was also pardoned by the Governor. By the Governor!

Imagine if Zimmerman was convicted and Rick Scott pardoned him! Or even worse, JEB BUSH! Every city in the USA would be burning.

John White, convicted of killing Daniel Cicciaro, pardoned by Gov. David Paterson

56 posted on 07/18/2013 10:57:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Dallas59; Gamecock; tpmintx
OLED is where it's at now.

If a hockey riot breaks out nearby, I want to get one of these bad boys. (As a newish tech, they're still quite a bit out of my price range.)



(The TV's in the middle. The models will always be outside my price range.)
57 posted on 07/18/2013 11:05:07 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I saw those at the NAB Show here recently. Also saw the 2x, 4x and 8X HDTV.

Awesome pictures but are definitely 5 or so years down the road...at least.


58 posted on 07/18/2013 11:13:32 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Indeed. That’s another good point!


59 posted on 07/18/2013 11:57:13 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: neverdem

I live in an “unlimited” Stand your Ground state. I’m a disabled vet, aka senior citizen, and a proud half-breed. I don’t know, nor can perform any sort of ‘fancy legwork or handwork stuff’. I don’t go looking for inopportune moments in my life.

It is THE THUG who thinks that anything and everything you own, is their’s for the taking and ownership. It is THE THUG that searches the crowds, for whom to set themselves upon. It is THE THUG that determines the time, the place, and the means and the manner of which to dislodge, what they think is ‘their’s’ from you.

It is, solely, due to the continued existence of a human species called THUGS, that I have chosen to exercise my 2A right, in the defense of my life against THUGS.


60 posted on 07/18/2013 1:28:16 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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